but the under president reagan they appoint something called the grace commission and by the way this all comes from the concept you are that race yeah that's right. he was the chairman of it and this all incidentally goes back to the concept of the government being broke this is always the trump card in conservative in conservative governments is that we're broke we have to do something about it and here's what we're going to do about it which is basically eliminate your programs but at the same time do these wonderful things for our constituents you know for billionaires for the military contractors that kind of thing so it's the grace commission suggested outsourcing in privatizing government get this as a way of saving money this is going to this is going to be more official that's the way it's always been. you know isn't any was it of course is this is a. it's most protective a boondoggle with ever been invented and the companies you get on the list the companies that work is outsourced to the they essentially it's like the k. street project he ties to the republican party you kn

writing a column for the wall street journal and i used to talk about doing a kind of reverse grace commission's let's do a commission that investigates the history of outsourcing and privatizing and did it work was it more efficient you know or was it just this kind of so i calculated boondoggle i think we kind of have that commission in your book but let's let's cover some more of these what happened i mean there is a lot of other things that have the financial crisis on. all that stuff got got wiped out cover so far this in just a second here it's like after our great war with thomas frank in our conversations with great minds. let's not forget that we had an apartheid regime. i think. even one well. whatever government says they are safe get ready because their freedom. when you're broadcasting live from washington d.c. coming up today on the big picture. well go back to conversations of great minds i'm joined by author and cultural historian thomas frank wrote the books the wrecking crew how conservatives rule and what's the matter with kansas and thomas the i do a radio show from noon to t

commission hearings. you can comment on all kinds of things. i recently commented on an n.r.c. regulations and rules. it is possible, but i think you have to be vigilant. host: grace writes to us on twitter asking about a ban on nuclear power plants. sharon squassoni, thank you so much for joining us this morning. she is the program director for proliferation prevention at the center for strategic & international studies. let's go now to the floor of the house of representatives, where the session is getting underway. thanks for joining us today. ker. the clerk: the speaker's room, washington, d.c., march 16, 2011. i hereby appoint the honorable renee ellmers to act as speaker pro tempore on this day. signed, john a. boehner, speaker of the house of representatives. the speaker pro tempore: pursuant to the order of the house of january 5, 2011, the chair will now recognize members from lists submitted by the majority and minority leaders for morning hour debate . the chair will alternate recognition between the parties each -- with each party limited to one hour and each member other than the majority and minority leaders and the minority whip limited to five minu