of the -- being in the public, the public person, you know, i -- i was struck in reading about grace coolidge that will rogers loved her. which says a lot. and called her public woman number one. public female number one. talk about that a little bit. >> always about helping. always about putting herself second at great cost. that's a little bit different. i'm thinking here about politics. mrs. adams, mrs. roosevelt, planning the next campaign, grace removed herself from that and calvin kept her removed to the extent she absolutely wanted to make it clear she didn't know who he was planning ahead about running for the extra term in 1928. calvin coolidge was enormously popular. so -- he could have run for another term in '28. we know that grace probably -- knew he wouldn't. she made -- she made a blanket in the white house that had a square for each month left. there weren't that many squares on it. that was on the lincoln bed. but she -- she was -- not to show she was calling the shots or that she knew and when the president said i do not choose to run, a big surprise in the summer of 1927. a

. >> amity, that really sort of gets to -- you've got a book coming out on coolidge, and grace coolidge was quoted as saying you just do it. and, you know, of course, i think that's true about women in general, you know, we put one foot in front of the other. but she -- she had not been part of her husband's mipolitical li. he had really excluded her from his political life and suddenly he becomes vice president and she's in washington big time. >> what do you do when the war is not on, the rest of the time of being first lady when there's not a crisis, when i look at grace and the two people that i will mention that came after her, mrs. hoover and maybe mrs. bush as well, you look what they did, what they did was education. very, very often. they turned to that. so, you have someone in grace's case she was the first -- first first lady who graduated from a coed state school. she graduated from the university of vermont and she actually had this bit of professional trade training to teach the deaf. so, that was incredible. >> and when she started dating cal, one of her friends said to h