well to discuss this further with now bring in radio talk show host grace perkins who said look you for a while actually from now say they thank you very much indeed for joining us let's look at some of the information that's coming through then it's the twenty second school shooting in the u.s. just this year we want these cases becoming so tragically common. well i'm first of all not at all sure that statistic is correct the people who compiled those for the purposes as a propaganda against gun against the second amendment tend to include every kind of incident they can and that i think is more like the fourth or fifth if you consider a student walking on a campus or next student with a gun killing as many of his former fellow students as you can that doesn't happen twenty two times in five months i'm sorry it's just not happening it does happen seemingly more regularly though and i think you have to consider this question when i was a boy in school in texas in the seventy's i remember guns in gun racks in the rear windows of students pickup trucks are remember not too long before tha