and graeme you say that this sis a perversion of islam and you say it is a very primitive look. >> yes, they look at the islamic text of the koran and the hadith, and they have a literal interpretation of the text. >> and they are literal. >> yes, very extreme of the interpretation, and they do care about the texts, and they do have a collection of the scholars and not widely known scholars but people who look at the texts, and look at what happens because of the text. >> but people who are joining, they are not islamic scholars but people in street gangs. >> and yes, graeme's articles tell us who the true believers believe. and why is this catching on. and islamic ideology has been around for centuries, but why is that catching on now? it seems two layers that are at operation. one is that a lot of the people feel dispossessed andssessed and the stagnant economies economies, and the middle east has 85% dictatorship, and by far the highest percentage in the world. and add to that something that the microstudies of the terrorists show even the isis rekrutment young men looking for adven

graeme wood in his much discussed essay discussion greater military involvement against isis. the biggest proponent of an american invasion is the islamic state itself, he writes. the provocative videos are clearly made to draw america into the fight. and invasion would be a huge propaganda victory for jihadists worldwide. instead counsels containment, selective airstrikes and support from muslims who are working to dissuade their brethren from falling prey to radical islam. in other words, fighting an ideological war against isis actually points one towards a sophisticated strategy that employs military restraint and political cooperation with arabs. i wonder if those clamoring for such a struggle are on board. for more, go to cnn.com/fareed and read more. and let's get started. ♪ >> king abdullah ii ascended jordan's throne just over 16 years ago. there arguably has never been a more tense time during his reign. by the u.n.'s count, there were 800,000 refugees in january. some say the number is higher. one refugee camp is now the fourth biggest city in jordan. outside jordan

this session from the bob graeme center of public service from the university of florida is about an hour. >> welcome to the bob graham center. thanks for being here this evening. you've got a very interesting program for you on mare y'all and we have three great fine scholars and speakers here this evening with us. i want to thank our partners for the collaboration with us on this event tonight. i'm the director of the bob graham center. and our speakers this evening are kathleen. their book is entitled florida and the poet lift of 1980. and they will discuss the political, legal, and administrative response to the crisis and recount how local and state agencies who with volunteers provided food and other sources. they'll speak for about 40 minutes all together. and then we'll open it up for a discussion and conversation with you we have a microphone here for your availability. and we welcome you to talk and ask any questions about the muriel boat lift, the cuban-american experience. or the new diplomatic initiative involving the united states and cuba. our moderator this evening is

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i have a graeme concerns about the risks and uncertainties involved in this deal. i think, though, that, you know you're not going to make it perfect. the deal is coming. congress won't be happy about it. they'll try to constrain it. one more point. i'm not running a peer operation for benjamin netanyahu here but let's be clear, he's pushing on an open door. he's pushing on a congress that is looking for a way to define its own foreign policy a republican congress -- >> no doubt. >> as he approach the presidential elections and you have to keep that in mind. >> aaron david miller as always thank you so much. >> thank you, michael. >>> coming up we have more great guests. he is one of the most outspoken sport commentators on television but this time he's making waves on race and politics. espn's steven a. smith joins me to explain why he thinks every black person in america should vote republican. >>> plus fraternities are under fire after a wave of scandals at campuses across the country. feminist icon naomi wolf joins me to talk about the future of fraternities. >

>> we're going to start with what's happening this hour and it's a new border graeme between agreementigned by jeh johnson and his canadian counterpart. it is expected to reduce congestion and increase efficiency at the border. it also provides guidelines for officials of both the u.s. and canadian customs. >>> the white house blasting the republican-led senate over the delay in holing a confirmation vote for loretta lynch to be attorney general. josh earnest calling the delay unconscionable. >>> hate the crowds at the airport? get used to it and there may be more of it. the faa says the number of travelers flying on u.s. airlines is expected to grow by 50% in the next two decades. >>> more heartache for long suffering new york met fans. right-handed starter zach wheeler has a torn elbow ligament that will need surgery to repair and that effectively knocks him out for the upcoming season which is too bad. that's the cnbc update for you. >> a mets fan. thanks very much and let's send it out to austin where cnbc's julia boorstin is live at south by southwest with an exclusive with lyft c

until they do make that clear, there will be great suspicions of any graeme, evenagreement, even a goodand this policy will not last beyond this administration. that's something that the white house needs to keep in mind. it's not going to last forever, and they have to have a policy that the american people and the american congress and the other party will accept. >> at the same time mr. ambassador, you're saying the u.s. support -- i don't know how to put it our working with iran to some extent in tikrit to fis fight the islamic state was the right move? >> i think it was the right move. the priority for us now is to destroy isis. isis is damn hard to destroy, as you see with the battle in tikrit. isis is tenacious on the defensive. they are not going to fade away easily. we need to do everything possible, and if others want to join in that fight as a tactical necessity, that's not a bad thing. again, it's like negotiating a nuclear agreement. make that an operational issue. don't draw conclusions from it either that we have flipped to iran or that iran has flipped to our side. we ha

it allows businesses to graeme nate and the governor is striking back saying it contains no referenceities say the remains of more than half the passengers in the german plane crash have been identified by dna. on monday prosecutors announced that the copilot had suicidal tendencies before getting his license. he locked the captain out of the cabin and crashed the plane into the french alps i canning all 150 people on board. the california fire captain injured while battling a house fire is battling for his life. his fall into the flame was caught on tape. the 25-year veteran suffered life-threatening burns to over 65% of his body and he remains in critical condition. >> an amazing sight that thousands of reindeer made a spring journey. crowds came out po to watch and more than 3,000 reindeer had spring hurders moving the reindeer across the road. let's get a check of the weather from dylan. >> i found this sign out here and this is alex and it's her 16th birthday. she said if she gets on tv you will get a car. is he watch something. >> i would like a bmw, dad, but i don't think that'