. >> go back to the ambassador graham martin. what part did he play in this?> so graham martin was the ambassador, and he was really the gatekeeper, in some sense. and he had the ability to green light the evacuation plan. the evacuation plan is created by the military but the ability to approve it and to put it in motion is really left in the hands of the ambassador. graham martin had lost a son in the vietnam war. he was very dedicated to preserving south vietnam. he didn't want to see us walk away from south vietnam. and i think, largely, for those reasons, he was resistant to putting an evacuation plan into place and green lighting it when everybody, most people, both on the ground and, to some degree in washington, realized that south vietnam was going to fall and that it was inevitable. >> frank snepp, former cia agent, and very controversial, was sued by our own government. why did you pick him as a spokesman? >> well, we were really committed to finding people who were on the ground who had -- who were, you know, in the embassy, who were in saigon at t