i am “oined by graham stuart, h carl. that's right. i am “oined by graham stuart, the _ carl.t's right. i amjoined by graham stuart, the uk's - carl. that's right. i am joined by| graham stuart, the uk's minister carl. that's right. i am joined by - graham stuart, the uk's minister for graham stuart, the uk's ministerfor energy and net are zero. this was a deal we were not quite sure would even make it into the plenary a few hours ago. what was your reaction to that moment when we heard the gavel hit the table? i that moment when we heard the gavel hit the table?— hit the table? i was delighted to see us come _ hit the table? i was delighted to see us come to _ hit the table? i was delighted to see us come to a _ hit the table? i was delighted to see us come to a global- hit the table? i was delighted to i see us come to a global agreement and for— see us come to a global agreement and for the — see us come to a global agreement and for the first time commits globally— and for the first time commits globally to transition away from fossil_ globally to transition away from foss

graham stuart speaking with me _ on behalf of those people. graham stuart speaking with me earlier. ack david shukman because what we heard from the president is this deal means nothing unless it is actually implemented. so what comes next now that we have this deal that's being hailed as historical? he this deal that's being hailed as historical? , ., this deal that's being hailed as historical?— this deal that's being hailed as historical? , ., ., historical? he is right to say that because what — historical? he is right to say that because what is _ historical? he is right to say that because what is meant _ historical? he is right to say that because what is meant to - historical? he is right to say that| because what is meant to happen historical? he is right to say that - because what is meant to happen now is over the next two years, all the governments who have signed this day i made this promise go back home and upgrade and update their climate change, their carbon reduction strategies. that is when we will see how seriously they are taking this does not are they really movi

at breakfast at 10 downing street, graham stuart, the climate minister supposed to be in dubai, was flowno vote, it was so tight. >> well, that's right. we have seen the day of high drama in westminster that is frankly laid bare divisions in the conservative party that mean that although rishi sunak has avoided a rebellion, the threat of a defeat at this early stage of the bl, he still faces trouble in the new year when this comes back for the third reading. you mentioned how close the government thought it would come to the wire, the fact that they canceled approvals for mp's to be away from the comments, amenable few mps -- a minimal few mps abroad, not only graham stuart, but mps on the foreign affairs committee, cutting short a trip to qatar, and beyond that you had mps particularly on the right of the party accusing the government of using dark tactics and threatening consequences to those thinking of rebellion against this bill. those close to the whip's office tonight anyone was threatened, but you have us -- denied anyone was threatened, but you have this sense of turmoil that pai

in fact, you werejust hearing from the cop summit and the uk climate minister graham stuart. government was so worried about this vote they got graham stuart to fly back to london from dubai just to vote and then flew back to dubai to vote and then flew back to dubai to speak at the end of the summit. that is how worried the government was yesterday. in the end, they actually won by a fairly comfortable majority. but at what price?, that is the key question today. some of those conservatives who might have rebelled think that rishi sunak and his team might be willing to entertain concessions, toughen up the legislation and we heard on the bbc earlier from james cleverly, the home secretary about that. the bbc earlier from james cleverly, the home secretary about that.- home secretary about that. the bill has not to home secretary about that. the bill has got to work. _ home secretary about that. the bill has got to work. it's _ home secretary about that. the bill has got to work. it's got _ home secretary about that. the bill has got to work. it's got to - home secretary abou

his name is graham stuart. climate minister. that is he. his name is graham stuart .op 28. but he had to come back to the house of commons last night to support the prime minister over rwanda. so what does that do for the climate ? climate? >> and the duke and duchess of sussex have been dubbed among the biggest losers of 2023 as their archwell foundation faces a nearly £9 million funding drop. showbiz and royal reporter kinsey schofield will be joining us shortly . us shortly. >> paul coyte back today with your sport. good morning, mr good morning, sir. >> how are you? >> how are you? >> not good. >> not good. >> oh, well , welcome to united . >> oh, well, welcome to united. >> oh, well, welcome to united. >> united eight of europe. >> united eight of europe. >> yes, not only out of the

minister manages to navigate it, but it is a marker of how tight things are that the climate minister graham stuarthe way back from cop28 for the vote tonight, every single vote matters in the government because my eyes on this, they have all hands on deck having meetings, whips calling round trying to figure out whether they have the numbers, make sure they have the numbers. and you wouldn't normally expect to be at this stage in the second reading of a bill with a government that does have quite a significant majority. but it really is a mark of the times we are in and how controversial this legislation is within the conservative party that we are even having this conversation and the fact that right now, i can't give you a clear indication of which way it will go. give you a clear indication of which way it will 90-— way it will go. yes, you're talking about a tight _ way it will go. yes, you're talking about a tight vote, _ way it will go. yes, you're talking about a tight vote, but _ way it will go. yes, you're talking about a tight vote, but how - way it will go. yes, you're talking about a t

graham stuart , the net tight.or cop 28. he's being flown back to london for the vote and then is flying straight back to dubai again, which suggests that the whips need every single vote they can get from what i'm hearing, it sounds as though quite a few of these rebels who rishi sunak been trying to woo this morning are prepared if not to vote for the bill at least to abstain . but bill at least to abstain. but the problem for rishi sunak is that, yes, it's better for him if they abstain than if they vote against the bill. but it would only take 59 abstentions or 29 votes against for the conservatives to lose. so this is a hugely important night for rishi sunak. in the last hour or so, it's become there have been whispers at least, that rishi sunak might be to prepared make a few amendments to try and get the right back on side. but it isn't clear how far those amendments would go . so richard amendments would go. so richard holden has talked about tweaks. essentially the problem that the right wing of the conser

>> i mean graham stuart, the uk climate minister, creating a whole load more emissions and footprintnt rushing back for a for a vote that they won by 44. anybody. i think he's coming back the couple of days back in the next couple of days yeah yeah well i mean the biggest irony is if you're worried about refugee numbers coming to the uk , you can be coming to the uk, you can be rest assured that climate change is going to drive even bigger numbers of refugees over the coming years. >> and the government's too busy deaung >> and the government's too busy dealing with the consequences of that to worry about tackling the underlying driving causes of it . underlying driving causes of it. but that's the biggest irony of all. >> in all seriousness, bob, i mean, these cop summits, they go on now every year. this, i think, is the 28th. we had the one in glasgow, which was two years ago, which was sort i think the prime minister then described it as a couple of minutes to midnight. described it as a couple of minutes to midnight . what are minutes to midnight. what are all these delegates do

nigel, there's a guy called graham stuart and graham stuart is our climate minister and graham stuartwas in dubai for the cop 28 summit meeting. but because of that vote last night, he was recalled to cast his vote on behalf of the government in the house last night and then fly back environmentally unfriendly way and to dubai again. my question to you is, was his vote needed so much? i mean, bear in mind, there was a majority of 40 something for the government that this was necessary to do, because the look is not good. >> no, no, it's not. i mean , to >> no, no, it's not. i mean, to build up a huge carbon footprint going backwards and forwards. and i'm sure he's pretty angry this morning that he had to go and do it. no it wasn't necessary. but what the government didn't know at the time was whether it might be it could have been a tight vote. the mark francois, the leader of the european research group, had basically been playing chicken all day with the government , basically been playing chicken all day with the government, and he'd been saying, right, if you don't pull this bill,

>> i mean graham stuart, the uk climate minister, creating a whole load more emissions and footprint back for a for a vote that they won by 44. anybody. i think he's coming back the couple of days back in the next couple of days yeah yeah well i mean the biggest irony is if you're worried about refugee numbers coming to the uk , you can be coming to the uk, you can be rest assured that climate change is going to drive even bigger numbers of refugees over the coming years. >> and the government's too busy deaung >> and the government's too busy dealing with the consequences of that to worry about tackling the underlying driving causes of it . underlying driving causes of it. but that's the biggest irony of all. >> in all seriousness, bob, i mean, these cop summits, they go on now every year. this, i think, is the 28th. we had the one in glasgow, which was two years ago, which was sort i think the prime minister then described it as a couple of minutes to midnight. described it as a couple of minutes to midnight . what are minutes to midnight. what are all these delegates do for the we

graham stuart , minister cop stuart, the minister for cop from the cop summit so he could vote so i'mure how many pairings there today, but pairings there were today, but certainly win the pm certainly a great win for the pm 44 that a majority is going towards. the government's working majority of around 56 and that's pretty strong for the pm. a vote of confidence from his own party. there's a warning, though , from the right warning, though, from the right wing groupings in the party, the party, the so—called fire families of the tory, right. they're saying that if the pm doesn't harden this this bill as it goes forward into the report, the report stage in the house of commons, they will vote against it. a third reading. now there's a problem he's got is if all those those number of those all those that number of 38 abstentions, if that is that is enough and then some to defeat the government. so there will be a big moment going forward into the new year when this comes back to third reading and abstentions is when it all could fall apart again . but as could fall apart again. but as

vote graham stuart and you can see how much sunak felt he needed the votes .d trip and of 6800 mile round trip and of course, there's the irony obviously, of the, you know, the well, the obvious idea he was going to come back anyway, wasn't he. >> yeah. but he's going back again. >> he's going back. >> he's going back. >> he's going back. >> he's going back again. yeah. i see. >> sorry he's popped back to england. i see. england. yeah. just oh i see. i'm that's absurdity. i'm sorry. that's the absurdity. >> cop >> especially when it's cop 28. but we know it's absurd. i mean, i of like that aspect that i kind of like that aspect that it it's all it highlights that it's all nonsense. people nonsense. and hopefully people will the fact that will wake up to the fact that most of net stuff is most of this net zero stuff is nonsense. yvette cooper nonsense. although yvette cooper had line, she had quite a funny line, she said, guess can least said, i guess they can at least say one flight has taken off as a result of this legislation. so that's not bad. >> not line.

vote graham stuart and you can see how much sunak felt he needed the votes .round trip and of 6800 mile round trip and of course, there's the irony obviously, of the, you know, the well, the obvious idea he was going to come back anyway, wasn't he. >> yeah. but he's going back again. >> he's going back. >> he's going back. >> he's going back. >> he's going back again. yeah. i see. >> sorry he's popped back to england. i see. england. yeah. just oh i see. i'm that's absurdity. i'm sorry. that's the absurdity. >> cop >> especially when it's cop 28. but we know it's absurd. i mean, i of like that aspect that i kind of like that aspect that it it's all it highlights that it's all nonsense. people nonsense. and hopefully people will the fact that will wake up to the fact that most of net stuff is most of this net zero stuff is nonsense. yvette cooper nonsense. although yvette cooper had line, she had quite a funny line, she said, guess can least said, i guess they can at least say one flight has taken off as a result of this legislation. so that's not bad. >> not l

ridiculous twist, sunak summit, climate minister summit, his climate minister graham a fly back from graham stuartk from the climate conference cop 28, in , so that he could lodge in dubai, so that he could lodge his vote before he back his vote before he flies back again. would be a 7000 mile again. that would be a 7000 mile round pumping carbon round trip pumping carbon dioxide into the atmosphere here so that he can back a policy that gets more flights in the air. you love to see it . there air. you love to see it. there were even rumours that the government was threatening to remove anyone who remove the whip from anyone who voted bill, but voted against the bill, but quickly minds. and quickly changed their minds. and just the brexit just before the vote, brexit spartan leader of the erg mark francois. just. just had to have a little moment in the limelight , didn't he? remember yesterday he was calling for rishi to pull the bill? well here he is today. ihave the bill? well here he is today. i have just chaired a meeting . i have just chaired a meeting. >> of you in the media are >> of what y

ridiculous twist, sunak summit, climate minister summit, his climate minister graham a fly back from graham stuartack from the climate conference cop 28, in , so that he could lodge in dubai, so that he could lodge his vote before he back his vote before he flies back again. would be a 7000 mile again. that would be a 7000 mile round pumping carbon round trip pumping carbon dioxide into the atmosphere here so that he can back a policy that gets more flights in the air. you love to see it . there air. you love to see it. there were even rumours that the government was threatening to remove anyone who remove the whip from anyone who voted bill, but voted against the bill, but quickly and quickly changed their minds. and just before the brexit just before the vote, brexit spartan leader of the erg mark francois. just. just had to have a little moment in the limelight , didn't he? remember yesterday he was calling for rishi to pull the bill? well here he is today. ihave the bill? well here he is today. i have just chaired a meeting . i have just chaired a meeting. >> of you in the media are >> of what

stuart: lindsey graham is tearing into democrats with their anti-israel rhetoric. >> senator schumer made an eloquent presentation about the lives of anti-semitism. he's right about that. what happened here is 39-11 for israel on october 7th. 1200 jews were slaughtered in their homes, the best killing of the jewish people since the holocaust. this call for a cease-fire is nuts. what would we have sent to a group that asked us to have a cease-fire after 9/11, we would have told them to go to hell. stuart: you have a new piece, the left's dangerous indifference to anti-semitism. make your case. >> by staying silent or looking away, you are empowering the enemy, the terrorists, by not taking a moral stand. this for some people, they know anti-semitism is a euphemism, it's do hatred and you don't want to admit it is happening. we have to admit it is happening, something terribly wrong has happened and if you feel it is dangerous or you are frightened, that's the time it matters to stand up. there's a school where a jewish teacher was hunted down by a mob of high school students and the s

he's called back graham stuart, the net zero minister. he's been at cop 28.een flown back into london for the vote this evening and then will be flown back out to dubai. who knows how many air miles that's going to take because clearly the whips are very, very worried that it's going go down to the line . going to go down to the line. and news will be very, and this dup news will be very, very bad news to them in deed, the only sort of shred of hope at the moment for the government is that so far quite a lot of these right wing rebels are still just asking for amendments and the government has actually started to say in the last few hours that it would be prepared to make a few tweaks to the bill to make a few tweaks to the bill to sort of toughen it up a little bit. the home secretary, james cleverly suggested to bill cash in the house of commons a bit earlier that, yes, parliament would prove to be sovereign over other european laws and parliament would be supreme over those human rights laws if it came down to it that might be enough to persuade some of th