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and paul grandal who's a journalist, he's the director of the new york state writers institute now and he was a journalist long term for a great e newspaper, he reviewed my book, and he had this great line. i use it all the time. he said heroin doesn't read resumÉs, you know? and that's the changing of the thought, right? because growing up i thought the person who was addicted to his honor lived under a bridge somewhere -- to heroin lived under a bridge somewhere and was pushing a shopping cart around or something like that. but that's not the case. one of the most abused drugs right now on wall street among traders, you know, and these are elite professionals, are opioids. and, again, tiffany, it goes backing to that no feel-no deal. you go 100 miles an hour all day, you just made $20 million on some trades and you want to shut that down, that's the drug. but it doesn't work. it only works for a little while. and ultimately, it spirals out of control. >> host: so when you hear the discussion out there with the president talking about the opioid crisis that we'ring is having in -- we'