, spend it on grandma. and the reason for that is that the medicare trustees have said to us that they're $38 trillion in unfunded liabilities for the medicare program, and that the program will start going bankrupt between 2015 and 2017, and according to the medicare trustees, they say -- quote -- "we have timely and -- we need timely and effective action to address medicare's challenges." and the proposal, if i may say to the senator from arizona on the finance committee and deeply involved in what we need to do about our nation's finances, i don't think the medicare trustees were thinking that the timely and effective action we could take to keep medicare from going broke was to take $465 billion out of it and spend it on some new program. mr. kyl: mr. president, that's exactly correct. what the medicare trustees were saying if we can effect cost savings in medicare -- and surely there are some to be had there -- that it should go to strengthen the medicare program itself and not allow it to go bankrupt

he mentioned grandma. i've mentioned grandma a few times. no disrespect to grandpa. he is in the same boat. and he said that grandma didn't need to worry about her medicare advantage plan because none of the benefits would be cut. but, mr. president, that's not what the director of the congressional budget office, who's often sited b cited by tht of the committee. he said that nearly half of the benefits currently provided to seniors would disappear under the finance committee plan which is much like the plan we're considering. these would include those i was mentioning. so today, mr. president, with senator mccain leading the discussion, we'd like to talk about the medicare advantage plan and why it's such a essential part of this bill. this is a $2.5 trillion bill. that's what it would cost over ten years. and about half it is paid for by these medicaid cuts and the -- medicare cuts and the ones we're talking about today is the medicare advantage plan. i understand there will be an amendment by senator hatch, who i'm sure will talk about his own amendment. he of co

can you put my grandma on the phone please? thanks. excuse me a sec.nother person calling for her grandmother. she thinks it's her soup huh? i'm told she's in the garden picking herbs. she is so cute. okay i'll hold. she's holding. wha? (announcer) progresso. you gotta taste this soup. >> larry: donald trump is still with us. now dennis rodman is here, an athlete who knows all too well about being in the media eye of the storm. rodman, of course, the greatest rebounder in the history of professional basketball in miami, the possessor of five championship rings. donald, give us your quick ten type of dennis rodman. >> here you go. >> dennis is a winner, larry, he was on "the apprentice," we had a lot of time together. i gained a great respect. he's a champion. he has five rings and how many people have five rings at anything? dennis knows i like him a lot. he was great on the show. by the way, the ratings were fantastic. i like him even more. >> larry: dennis, what's your thoughts on the whole tiger woods' thing? >> well, my thoughts are just like donal

it's paid for by cutting grandma's medicare. it's paid for by letting grandma's medicare by $465 million over a ten year period and the second billion dollars -- >> that's a question i would love to debate with you. but on the first question only, you do admit that it's paid for? >> no, i admit that cost $2.5 trillion in the attempt to pay for it. is medicare cuts and tax increases and increases to the deficits not including the physicians reimbursement in the health care bill. >> if i may ask one more question. i think that we all know the house is taking action now that this reimbursement. the senate will also take action on it before we adjourn. and that is the so-called dockets six. which is really a separate issue. that was paid for. but putting that aside, just the health care reform. we've always had to say that because they take up the dock 61st ever year. you don't take up health care reform every year. health care reform is an entirely separate proposition , a separate legislative deficit. if the senate will bear with

it is paid for by cutting grandma's medicare. it's paid for by cutting grand grandma's medicare by $465 million over a ten-year period of time, the -- mr. baucus: that's a debate -- that's a second question i'd love to debate with you, but on the first question only, you do admit that it is paid for? mr. alexander: i -- no, i admit that it costs $2.5 trillion in the attempt to pay for it, medicare cuts and tax increases and increases to the deficit by not including the physicians reimbursement in the health care bill. mr. baucus: if i might ask one more question, i this that i we all know that the house has taken action on this position of reimbursement. the senate will also take action on it before we adjourn. that is the so-called doc fix will be fixed, which is really a separate issue. that will be paid for. but putting that aside, the doctors' issues aside, just health care reform, i say that because we take up the doc fix virtually every year. we have don't take up health care reform every year. health care reform is an enti

it is paid for by cutting grandma's medicare. it's paid for by cutting grand grandma's medicare by $465 million over a ten-year period of time, the -- mr. baucus: that's a debate -- that's a second question i'd love to debate with you, but on the first question only, you do admit that it is paid for? mr. alexander: i -- no, i admit that it costs $2.5 trillion in the attempt to pay for it, medicare cuts and tax increases and increases to the deficit by not including the physicians reimbursement in the health care bill. mr. baucus: if i might ask one more question, i this that i we all know that the house has taken action on this position of reimbursement. the senate will also take action on it before we adjourn. that is the so-called doc fix will be fixed, which is really a separate issue. that will be paid for. but putting that aside, the doctors' issues aside, just health care reform, i say that because we take up the doc fix virtually every year. we have don't take up health care reform every year. health care reform is an enti

they stand up the death panel strawman, claim the legislation would kill grandma and denounce it as inhumane. we say stop the outrageous misinformation and tell the truth to the american people. they stand up the tax strawman and say, health care reform will increase taxes. we say we're making health care entities, like insurance companies, pay their fair share. they set up the spending strawman and say the bill will indebt the next generation despite congressional budget office estimates to the contra contrary. we say, you can't pick and choose when to believe the congressional budget office and stand by their numbers only when it's convenient to your cause. for instance, my friend, senator gregg, the ranking member on the budget committee,tout, touts c.. numbers even on his specific bill. when they benefit his arguments, for example, on malpractice provisions. but now my friends on the other side conveniently dismiss the congressional budget numbers, showing our health care plan reduces our -- the deficit. so you can't have it both waysment they bring along their partisan strawman, accusin

but aarp says grandma's fine. grandma's fine. it says -- "most importantly, the legislation does not reduce any guaranteed benefits." it does not reduce any benefits for aarp. going on, ""aarp believes savings can be found in medicare." we're talking savings in medicare to extend the solvency of medicare. the actuary says this legislation extends the solvency of medicare, helps medicare. benefits longer than the status quo if this legislation were not to pass. and also that it does so, according to aarp, by eliminating waste and inefficiency, and aggressively weeding out fraud, waste, and abuse. the last sentence in the letter says -- "we therefore urge you" -- senators -- "to oppose the mccain amendment." the aarp says this hurts seniors, the motion to recommit. i think the job for aarp is to try to figure out what's best for seniors. that's what their conclusion is. it's not just their view, aarp. there is another letter. this letter is the national committee to preserve social security and medicare. what do they say about all

that, our friends on the other side of the aisle keep coming back and keep trying to stand up for grandma or stand up for some senior citizen that is being falsely scared into believing that their benefit is going to be cut or that medicare is somehow going to be less available to them. and my amendment, which we will ultimately vote on, will guarantee that no benefit is going to be cut for any senior under this plan, and that's what we are going to do. now, madam president, in addition to that, let me just go quickly. let me remind my colleagues and people who are listening what this bill does. this bill actually improves the solvency of medicare. we've heard any number of people say medicare is going to go bankrupt by 2017, and indeed it is. well, we stretch that out. we improve that so that we can then take the improvements in the health care system -- i yield myself an additional couple of minutes. it improves the solvency of the medicare program by five years. it puts $30 billion back into the pockets of seniors in the form of lower medicare premiums. it makes prescription drugs more

and taking out grandma's garage door. so while you're celebrating, allstate will be standing by. trouble never takes a holiday. neither should your insurance. that's allstate's stand. are you in good hands? ♪ >> larry: nobody can spike more about tragedy than victims of it. joining me is david beamer, his son died on 9/11, todd was one of the passengers that fought back before the plane crashed this pennsylvania. and desh ra burlington, the son of the pilot of american flight 77 that crashed into the pentagon. and she is the co-founder of 9/11 families for a safe american. and alice ingraham, a former flight aten dant. what is your reaction to what happened on christmas day? >> it was a trishl event and i'm pleased the mission was not successful. i'm thankful for the fellow that was referred to ass the flying dutchman for leaping into action and preventing that plane from being blown up. i'm pleased with the outcome and disheartened about the fact that it happened at all. and it clearly points out from the enemy's point of view, they believe there is a war going on and it's an ab

in other words, when you inherit grandma's farm, if grandma paid $100 an acre for grandma paid $100 an acre for it and it's now worth $2,000 an acre and you go to sell it, you have capital gains on all of aappreciated value over $100. that's not how the law works now. how the law works now, you inherit appropriate worth $2,000 an acre, that's your basis. there's no capital gains if you sell it for $2,000 an acre. farm bureau has said this falls insidious on farms and small businesses, the very people they claim to be helping. . the motion to recommit has been a respectable debate into the same ole rhetoric that's plagued the issue in the tax. estate tax has changed 10 times in 11 years. isn't it time we provide some certainty to the american people not just more of the uncertainty that they offer? what's more, it's not just certainty. we make the estate tax go away for 99.75% of the people in this country. but that's not good enough for them. they'll hold out for that last few tenths of a percent even if it means laying a capital gains tax obligation on 71,000 families to achieve that

can you put my grandma on the phone please? thanks. excuse me a sec. person calling for her grandmother. she thinks it's her soup huh? i'm told she's in the garden picking herbs. she is so cute. okay i'll hold. she's holding. wha? (announcer) progresso. you gotta taste this soup. ♪ >> larry: we're back. "nine" opens in los angeles and new york friday night. and then we'll open wide on christmas day. it is a great movie. fergie worked hard for this part. she plays a prostitute from guido's past and sings "nine"'s signature song you may be singing when you see the movie. here is fergie in action. ♪ the italian ♪ lives today as if it may become your last ♪ >> larry: you can applaud. >> we were trying to decide what pose would be the grand ending pose. >> we came up with 100. >> rob was getting on the chair and doing these different ones. >> larry: she is a singer, right? >> it was amazing to see her come from that side. everybody has a huge mountain to climb. hers was different. i was so amazed how fergie attacked this role. like an animal. she wanted to

there was a time when grandma and grandpa retired and moved in with their kids. you remember that era? i do. it happened in our family and they didn't have any choice. they had to because they had modest jobs and not a lot of savings and they depended on their kids to find a spare bedroom or sleep in a basement that's made over so they've have a comfortable safe place to be. social security changed that for most american families. this bill will change health care for most american families. and the same thing is true with medicare. the critics of medicare and they have been legion on the floor of the united states senate ignore the obvious. they will have the peace of mind to know they cannot affordable health care once they reach the age of 65. they will lose their life savings and will get a good doctor, good hospital, and a good outcome. isn't that what america's all about? isn't that why were so as to be here? why don't we have more support? or republican side of the aisle all it does is come here and tell us what's wrong with the idea of health care reform.

and taking out grandma's garage door. so while you're celebrating, allstate will be standing by.uble never takes a holiday. neither should your insurance. that's allstate's stand. are you in good hands? ♪ >>> near death experiences, hundreds of people claim to have them every day in the u.s. alone. we're talking about how and why this occurs. and there are people, of course, who don't believe in them at all. you talk about in your book that life after death, it's sort of the elephant in the room. we're all fascinated by it but nobody really wants to delve into it. >> the atheists and skeptics are saying give us experience empirical evidence. we don't have -- we can't talk to dead people. we can't go to the other side of the curtain. the near-death experiences are probably the closest thing. there are thousands of them that occur all around the world. they have a bunch of ingredients that are very similar. the sense of being drawn through a tunnel, of seeing a bright light, some cases meeting dead relatives or friends, feeling the presence of a celestial being. for a while what th

can you put my grandma on the phone please? thanks. excuse me a sec. another person calling for her grandmother. she thinks it's her soup huh? i'm told she's in the garden picking herbs. she is so cute. okay i'll hold. she's holding. wha? (announcer) progresso. you gotta taste this soup. smells good. it's a cookie exchange. we're baking up holiday spirit to share with friends around the country. you know, priority mail flat rate boxes from the postal service makes shipping simpler than no-bake peanut cluster. if it fits, it ships anywhere in the country for a low flat rate. so sending macadamia moos to miami costs the same as sending sugar trees to sante fe? same price for snicker doodles to spokane or pumpkin pinwheels to poughkipsee. okee-dokee. okee-dokee. priority mail flat rate shipping starts at $4.95, only from the postal service. a simpler way to ship. >> larry: we'll check in with anderson cooper. he's back. after hosting a wonderful night of heroes last week. he's back hosting "ac 360." welcome back. congratulations, anderson. >> thanks so mu

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and taking out grandma's garage door. so while you're celebrating, allstate will be standing by. trouble never takes a holiday. neither should your insurance. that's allstate's stand. are you in good hands? ♪ >> jim: welcome back to larry king live. i'm jim moret sigtting in for larry. christine brennan, we reported earlier today on "inside edition" that tiger woods may be leaving country with his wife elin on their $22 million yacht. getting out of the country. getting out of dodge. trying to make the first steps to repair their marriage and then this announcement that tiger woods is leaving golf indefinitely. from your perspective, what does his departure mean and then as a woman, he has a lot more work to do at home than on golf course clearly. >> certainly as a sports journalist looking at tiger, this is the punctuation mark, the exclamation point on the wildest sentence we have seen maybe ever in sports. this tiger woods saga, the greatest fall from grace, i believe, in the history of sports of an athlete. i know others have other ideas, but this is extraordinary. these two

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and grandma? suarez: but tt's changing as me and more people have lost their jobs. 28-year old avis barton had a promising reer as the operions manager at a local lumberyard. a ther of two young children, he and his wife we planning to buy house when the bottom fell out. in march, the lumbyard announced itas going to shut wn. barton was out of a job. it's been a tough time. we're all just trying get thugh it. anthe thing is, it's not like you can get up andove because the ole country i think is is way right now. >>uarez: barton worked diligely to find another job, and got one with orkinest corol services. he says he loves the work, a is happy to be o of the boom- st-cycle of construction. >> actlly, i had a job offer the same day i gothe job offer om orkin for a job with similar pay, abouthe same benefits but at one was in construction here for aaterial supply coany. and i was thinking, the are alwa going to be bugs. i think m going to be smart and takehis job instead. >> how are you? >> suarez: e

resignation online, on grounds of's online website at 2:00 in the morning, thereby having the -- grandma's online website a 2:00 in the morning, thereby having correspondence calling in the middle of the night to say there is a breaking story there. the cuban government has been very waffle over its online images region waffle over its online images -- has been watchful of its online images. the world has been onslaught to viral videos, any number of which can be viewed on youtube, including an outburst by castro as a major summit in argentina when he starred with reporters. there is a well-known case last year when a young cuban students confronted riccardo at a town hall meeting at the university, a computer science university, where the student voice to complain about access to the internet, and of course you have a growing debate within the cuban government, and that has been fueled by technology. one notable example was in 2007 when an e-mail the day broke out between artists and intellectuals within cuba -- an e-mail debate broke out between artists and intellectuals within cuba, and

let's say grandma buys a farm, $100 an acre, it's now worth $2,000 an acre. deeds it to you.he passes. you acquire the property. you go to sell the farm. they are going to pay capital gains tax under present law at all appreciated value over the $100 an acre initial acquisition price. that's because of the present law -- under present law carryover basis is substituted forer what we have under the existing framework, statutory basis. here's what the farm bureau said about carryover basis when it was considered some time ago in 1979. carryover basis fossers an insidious bias against farmers and ranchers and that's precisely what they would create. look at this. no estates with capital gains tax burden on 71,000 suddenly with capital gains burden. under the law if we allow it to go into effect next year. another byproduct of this bill is to establish certainty once and for all what the estate tax level is. the 2009 level represents a 75% -- i yield myself an additional 30 seconds. the 2009 law represents an exclusion from estate tax and a 75% higher than last year alone where i

so we want to be careful here, i don't want to blame grandma. it isn't her fault she tends to do poorly. it's because she is and less frequent contact with recipients and chooses things that they don't necessarily want. at this point some seem to be heaping criticism on holiday gift-giving. it's time to think about whether i am entirely wrong and particularly entirely wrong in the sense what about sentimental value? ken sentimental value rescue bad gift-giving? so i'm talking about a situation where the river goes out and spends $50 on a sweater but let's say the sweater is only worth $30 to you not counting sentimental value but just as a sweater the most he would be willing to pay is 30. so far that sounds like value destruction because one could have spent 50 on one's self and bought something at least worth 50 by you might say wait a minute, the giver get pleasure out of this and the giver gets $30 worth of pleasure out of giving the gift then that's for 30 plus 30 is 60 that's bigger than 50 maybe this is the value creating activities and s

there was a time when grandma and grandpa retired and moved in with their kids.ou remember that era? i do. it happened in our family, and they didn't have any choice. they had to because they had modest jobs and not a lot of savings, and they depended on their kids to find that spare bedroom or let them sleep in a basement that's made over so they would have a comfortable, safe place to be. social security changed that for most american families. this bill will change health care for most american families. and the same thing is true with medicare. the critics of medicare -- and they have been legion on the floor of the united states senate -- ignore the obvious. 45 million americans have peace of mind to know that they can get affordable health care once they've reached the age of 6 56789 they won't lose their -- 6 56789 they won't lose their live savings. they'll get a good doctor and a good outcome. isn't that why we're supposed to be here? why don't we have more support? the republican side of the aisle, all they do is come here and tell us what's wrong with

what do you tell your kids when you lose your job, or you have to move in with grandma?t forth real-life families who have had upheavals in their lives, and for the power of sesame street, we were able to highlight these families and build tools for talking with your kids and coping mechanisms without creating an abnormal theme of optimism in your home. that is exactly the message we have been able to spread in the project. i am most proud about our work with military families, where we really came into this project trying to do something for the families of our troops who were just not getting the attention. i read an article in "the new york times" that a soldier's wife and his kids were being kicked out of their house because they were behind on their mortgage payments. i came into the office and said we have to do something. the staff came together and build an incredible outreach project. by talking and listening to your kids and connecting from a distance, this was about deployments and multiple deployments. it has had a huge positive impact on military families of

the same outrageous stories about death panels an pulling the -- and pulling the plug on grandma. we heard that from the other side week after week, month after month. every step, i said, we on this side have acted in good faith. we did not go the reconciliation route. in our futile quest -- futile quest for bipartisanship, we have repeatedly given the republicans more time. in the senate health committee, under the great leadership of senator dodd, we spent nearly three weeks marking up the bill. no amendments were denied. the republicans could offer any amendment they wanted. it took 13 days, a total of 54 hours of meetings. we went out of our way to accommodate our republican colleagues. we accepted 161 of their amendments. either by vote or just by accepting them. after all that time, all that good will on our side accepting 61 of their amendments, everyone on that committee voted -- every republican on that committee voted against the bill. every time that i told this story in iowa or wherever i've been, people said, they offered 61 amendments, surely they must have been happ

or when you have to move in with grandma? we brought for real-life families -- four real-life families. we were able to highlight these families and tools, creating enormous optimism and an ability to tell people you will be able to get through this. we will spread -- we worked with military families, where we really came into this project trying to do something to the rigid with the families and troops. i got into this issue because i read an article in the new york times that a family of soldiers -- they were being kicked out, and i was so enraged. the staff came together and built an incredible project. it is about talking to your kids, listening to them, and connecting from a distance. it has had enormous impact on military families. there are several -- you do not hear about them. there has been a new study that came out just a day or so ago talking about older kids from 8- 18 suffering real setbacks in terms of real growth, the largest deployment since world war two. we talk about coming home with an injury, bringing in

or when you have to move in with grandma? we brought for real-life families -- four real-life families. we were able to highlight these families and tools, creating enormous optimism and an ability to tell people you will be able to get through this. we will spread -- we worked with military families, where we really came into this project trying to do something to the rigid with the families and troops. i got into this issue because i read an article in the new york times that a family of soldiers -- they were being kicked out, and i was so enraged. the staff came together and built an incredible project. it is about talking to your kids, listening to them, and connecting from a distance. it has had enormous impact on military families. there are several -- you do not hear about them. there has been a new study that came out just a day or so ago talking about older kids from 8- 18 suffering real setbacks in terms of real growth, the largest deployment since world war two. we talk about coming home with an injury, bringing in

and spent on grandma. but, no, this money is taken out and spent on a new program. and director of the congressional budget office -- not a republican, not a democrat, the nonpartisan director said for the 11 million medicare advantage patients, that's one-fourth of everybody in medicare, he said one half of their benefits will be diminished. that's what he said about these cuts. and even when it's all said and done -- and i'm about through in explaining this -- when it's all said and done we completely leave out the quarter of a trillion dollars we need to appropriate to pay physicians who serve medicare patients. if we don't their payments are going to be cut by 21% next year and fewer of them will be medicare patients. we already heard that the mayo clinic is beginning to restrict some patients on medicare because they lost $840 million serving medicare patients hrafpt year. that's just one thing wrong with this bill. but when you hear the other side say they're helping medicare and when you listen to w

and when do you make a decision that indeed that grandma is not able to recover.y own situation there was an evening when we were all sitting around the kitchen table and we thought me grandmother would be dying in a matter of moments. and turns out she recovered and spent another five years of quality life. and we were mighting glad that -- mighty glad she had that health care. i don't believe that the re-bill on the house of representatives would be that. but back to your point of medicare advantage, it's not a way to try to privatize medicare, but it does involve injecting competition. and i believe in competition between insurance companies. that's what i would like to do as one solution to the health care programs we have. -- health care problems. there are millions of elderly americans that like that advantage of having vision and other things that are not under traditional medicare. and let me make this point on medicare, not only is it about to go bankrupt in a few short years. and increasingly mentionod this program, there are sections because of the reim

it was the mentality of the state takes care of everything so we don't need to call grandma and makeoning and central heating are not quite as developed as they are here. i would be interested to hear more about the specific doctors being handicapped complaint. host: our emergency rooms in france? guest: i have not experienced it but it seems like it would be about the sameÑi. the french are really good at stake-sector productivity. the british are bad at state- sector productivity. this article was as a consumer. i don't think it would work in america and i don't think we would be very good at it. they are good that part of it but there are plenty of nightmare scenarios of socialized health care schemes where emergency rooms are bad and they're waiting lines and all kinds of shortages. host: does the french health care pay for the full cost of medical care? guest: not for the holocaust but for a whole bunch of it. the most money i paid at a pharmacy was about $20. there is a delton subsidy there. you pay on the spot which gives you the illusion that you are having an adult -- and a

tape out and take it to grandmas house and wave it there. that was all codified in sony beta max.ou agree? >> i do. >> the question for you is recognizing that that's not a commercial use, that's not a dissemination or performance or broadcast to others. you say it very well at the start and end of baseball and football and all of the major leagues that rebroadcast is prohibited. we're in the having that discussion here and that play be today's subject, let me just go through a scenario. and i'm in san diego, san diego chargers are playing there. and let's just say, that it is not being -- i don't have it available where i am. and would you say that as an owner of seven tv's in oceanside in san diego, california and vista, california that i could watch it there and i could record it on a -- equivalent today of the beta max. >> yes. >> and if i have the ability to do that and have the ability to forward it to myself, i'm well within my rights. >> well. i think, from a strictly legal context, that question -- hasn't been decided by a court, although there is a technology available t

they -- grandmas. they serve in the military with dignity. why punish them this way? why have such a lack of respect for them that they can't even get reproductive health care with their own private funds? it is really, to me, such a rollback of women's rights, and i -- i believe we will defeat this here in the senate and i believe senator reid deserves a lot of credit because what he did in the underlying bill is preserve the status quo. no federal funds for abortion, not a dollar, but a woman can use her own private funds to buy health insurance. thank you very much, madam president, and i yield the floor. the presiding officer: the senator from arizona. mr. mccain: madam president, as is the agreed upon procedure by the two leaders, i now send a motion to commit to the desk with instructions as part of the side-by-side procedure that's been agreed to by the majority leaders and ask for its consideration. the presiding officer: the clerk will report. the clerk: the senator from arizona, mr. mccain, moves to commit the bill h.r. 3590 to the committee on finance with

my grandma say. she cannot afford health insurance. family without health insurance. they are not looking for handouts or a bailout. all they are looking for is a chance to make their own way. to work, to succeed, using their talents and skills. and they are looking for folks in washington to have a seriousness of purpose that matches the reality of their struggles. everywhere i have gone, at every stop i have made, there are people like this. men and women who face misfortune but stand ready to build a better future. students ready to learn, workers eager to work, scientists on the brink of the discovery, entreprenuers seeking a chance to open a small business -- everywhere i go, there are shuttered factories waiting to roarÑi back to life in burgeonig industry's. there is a nation ready to meet the challenges and to lead the world in this new century. as we look back on the progress of the past year and look forward to the work ahead, i have every confidence that we will do exactly that. these have been a tough two years. there will

broadcast to store and because it was removable device, i can take my vhs tape out and i can take it to grandma'sd watch it there. that was all codified with sony betamax, do you agree? >> i do. the question for you is, recognizing that that's not a commercial use. that's not a dissemination or a performance or a broadcast to others here and you say it very well the start and a baseball, football, all the major leagues, that rebroadcast is prohibitive. so we're not having that discussion here, and that maybe today's subject, but let me just go through a scenario. i'm in san diego. san diego chargers are playing there. let's just say it's not being -- i don't have it available where i am. would you say that as an owner of seven tds and oceanside, san diego, california, this is california, that i can watch it there and i can record it on an equivalent today of the betamax? >> yes. stimac and if i had to bail ability to do that and have the availability forwarded to my self, i am well within my rights? >> well, from a strictly legal contact, that question hasn't been decided by a court, although the

or when you have to move in with grandma? we brought for real-life families -- four real-life families. we were able to highlight these families and tools, creating enormous optimism and an ability to tell people you will be able to get through this. we will spread -- we worked with military families, where we really came into this project trying to do something to the rigid with the families and troops. i got into this issue because i read an article in the new york times that a family of soldiers -- they were being kicked out, and i was so enraged. the staff came together and built an incredible project. it is about talking to your kids, listening to them, and connecting from a distance. it has had enormous impact on military families. there are several -- you do not hear about them. there has been a new study that came out just a day or so ago talking about older kids from 8- 18 suffering real setbacks in terms of real growth, the largest deployment since world war two. we talk about coming home with an injury, bringing in

they talk about how we are going to pull the plug on grandma, how we are going to push euthanasia forward, how we are going to deny health care to deserving people because of this legislation. these recommendations that we are going into this morning our recommendations and nothing more. and to say anything different than that is either to transmit the grossest kind of carelessness, and i hope this is not the case, or to just plain it out right deceit. it is time for us to look at these recommendations as they are. the recommendation of the scientific panel created to make advise on what is the best medical and how we can see to it that we best protect our women with regard to things like pap smears and mammograms. now i will yield to no one on either subject because this committee and the oversight subcommittee, when i was chairman of each, were responsible for seeing to it that both mammograms and pap smears were made in the safest way for the benefit of patients i lost a mother to cervical cancer, and i have lots lots of friends to breast cancer and other things, and i am grossly offen

only about 40% of my practice was obstetrics. 60% was kids to grandmas. >> host: okay. you charge different rates than the medicare and private? >> it's against the law. here's what the federal law says, anybody, you cannot give your services away free to medicare. because if you do, you have to give every other medicare patient free care. you can bill whatever you want to medicare, but they are only going to pay you a fixed price. what happens is we get this billing differential. if you go to the hospital er, you get to pay the highest dollar they got if you haven't got insurance, you got negotiated rate. we're not going to fix health care until we do payment reform as well. >> host: so as a doctor, would you provide somebody with a price list as much as somebody were buying a car? >> it's starting to happen. you're starting to see it. there's one that i know of that's an acquaintance of mine that stopped taking all insurance and medicaid. he has three prices. he says i am practicing the best medicine that i have practiced. now i have time to listen to the patients and

they talk about how we are going to pull the plug on grandma, how we are going to push euthanasia forward, how we are going to deny health care to deserving people because of this legislation. these recommendations that we are going into this morning our recommendations and nothing more. and to say anything different than that is either to transmit the grossest kind of carelessness, and i hope this is not the case, or to just plain it out right deceit. it is time for us to look at these recommendations as they are. the recommendation of the scientific panel created to make advise on what is the best medical and how we can see to it that we best protect our women with regard to things like pap smears and mammograms. now i will yield to no one on either subject because this committee and the oversight subcommittee, when i was chairman of each, were responsible for seeing to it that both mammograms and pap smears were made in the safest way for the benefit of patients i lost a mother to cervical cancer, and i have lots lots of friends to breast cancer and other things, and i am grossly offen

there are mothers, there are daughters, there are grandmas, they serve in the military with dignity. punish them this way? why have such a lack of respect for them? that they can't even get reproductive health care with their own private funds? it is really, to me, such a rollback of women's rights. and i believe we will defeat this here in the senate, and i believe senator reid deserves a lot of credit because what he did in the underlying bill is preserve the status quo. no federal funds for abortion, not a dollar. but a woman can use her own private funds to buy health insurance. thank you very much, madam president, and i yield the floor. >> american icons, three original documentaries from c-span now available on dvd. a unique journey through the iconic homes of the three branches of american government. see the exquisite detail of the supreme court through the eyes of the justices. go beyond the velvet ropes of public tours into those rarely-seen spaces of the white house, america's most famous home. and explore the history, art and architecture of the capitol, one of america's

also a very private and personal issue with the family and when do you make a decision that, indeed, grandma is not able to recover? i remember in my own situation there was, there was an evening when we were all sitting around the kitchen table, and we thought my grandmother would be dying in a matter of moments. it turns out she recovered and spent another five years of quality life, and we were mighty glad that she had had the health care to recover. i do not think the rebuild or -- reid bill or the pelosi bill in the house of representatives would be the answer to that, but let me get back to your point about medicare advantage. medicare advantage is not a way to privatize medicare, but it does involve injecting some competition, and i believe in competition between insurance companies. as a matter of fact, that's what i'd like to do as one solution to the health care problems we have. there are millions and millions of elderly americans who like their medicare advantage, they like being able to have hearing testing periodically, to have their eye glasses paid for under a medicare progra

it was the mentality of the state takes care of everything so we don't need to call grandma and makee she is doing okay. air-conditioning and central heating are not quite as developed as they are here. i would be interested to hear more about the specific doctors being handicapped complaint. host: our emergency rooms in france? guest: i have not experienced it but it seems like it would be about the sameÑi. the french are really good at stake-sector productivity. the british are bad at state- sector productivity. @@@@@@@ >> so they are good at that part of it but there are nightmare scenarios of health care schemes with emergency rooms are nightmarish and waiting lines and all kinds of shortages. host: it was asked, does the french health system pay for doctors, hospitals? guest: most money i ever paid at a pharmacy was like $20. there is a built-in subsidy. but you do pay on the spot, which at least gives you the illusion that you are having a direct accounting for it. there's not this thing in america where you go there and pay a co-pay, wait for your insurance and get billed. i'm

credit cards, we're talking about the seniors having to pay for these other new entitlements, so grandmad tkpwra pa are going -- and grandpa are going to be paying for that too. if my colleagues insist on doing it, we need to guarantee any new program has a stable and reliable source of funding. medicare cuts in this bill are neither stable nor reliable. my democratic colleagues have spoken at length about how the medicare provisions in this bill will bend the growth of health care spending. that, unfortunately, is far from accurate. if you don't believe me, list ton what the other nationally recognized experts have to say. according to "the new york times," the c.e.o. of world renowned mayo clinic, which we use around here

there was no suggestion that it threatened grandma. there was no suggestion that this was going to ruin medicare. there was no suggestion that these savings out of medicare were going to undermine medicare beneficiaries. and that was their budget. that was their president's budget, to save $481 billion out of medicare. let's compare it to the savings in medicare in this bill. the bush administration, the last budget they offered, had $481 billion in ten-year savings out of medicare. the net reduction in this bill is $380 billion. i would just ask my colleagues on the side opposite, what is a bigger number, $481 billion bigger or is $380 billion bigger? because they didn't say one word in opposition to medicare savings from the previous administration, their administration, when it was $481 billion. but know tha now that this admin has savings of $380 on a net basis, all of a sudden the sky is falling and it is the end of the world. i'd say the see abovencc meter is on tilt when i listen to these speeches from the side opposite. and med

a lot of grandmas and grandpas have figured it out and they're not going to stand for it. now, the chairman of the finance committee has repeatedly said that this bill will not cut or reduce any guaranteed medicare benefit. that statement seems to ignore what this bill will do to providers. if a medicare patient cannot get into a nursing home, they don't have nursing home benefits. if they can't find a home health aide willing to take medicare patients, they don't have health home benefits. now, the promise for coverage, which you can't get a doctor to see you, is not health care. you don't have benefits if you can't get a provider to treat you and, unfortunately, that's exactly what this bill will do. some of my democratic colleagues have also attempted to justify the medicare cuts in the reid bill by arguing that many of the trade associations representing health care providers have endorsed this bill. they're correct that several washington-based trade associations and their lobbyists have endorsed the reid bill. it's probably worth exploring why some of the groups have

you went before an iowa audience and indicated to them that there were death panels that would kill grandma, and i believe you also stated, sir, that you, your decision making, i believe this is a quote, is based on -- your governing decisions are based upon the views of whichever group among your constituents yells the loudest. and, of course, with mr. army and the republican party getting these tea baggers and these other individuals before the, before the congress and congressmen, they yelled the loudest. but, of course, they are nothing more than minions of the republican party's base. i'd like to take your answer, sir, off the -- >> host: thank you. >> guest: he had a chance to make the process of representative government work. representative government's a two-way street. i'm one-half of that process of representative government, you are constituents or the other one-half of that process. and if you're going to have dialogue between those of us elected and those that we serve, he has a one-way dialogue. so he didn't ask any questions, b so there's not much i can comment except maybe

my grandma's sick, she can't afford health insurance. kids who can't just be kids because they're worried about moms having their hours cut or dad losing their job or a family without health insurance. now, these folks aren't looking for a handout, they're not looking for a bailout. just like those people i visited in allentown. all they're looking for is a chance to make their own way. to work, to succeed using their talents and skills. and they're looking for folks in washington to have a seriousness of purpose that matches the reality of their struggle. everywhere i've gone, every stop i've made there are people like this, men and women who have faced misfortune, but who stand ready to build a better future. students ready to learn, workers eager to work, science terrorists on the bripg of discovery -- scientists on the brink of discovery, entrepreneurs seeking a chance to open small businesses. everywhere i go there are one-shuttered factories just waiting to get back to life. there is a nation ready to meet the challenges of this ne

abraham, my grandma announced. like the president, rhonda asked? no, said my grandma. like the old man in the bible that god said was going to be the father of a great people as numerous as the stars. so that is his birth. i'm going to jump ahead eight years. so his cousin, darnell, is now -- he was 4-years-old at his birth and is eight years later cities now 12 come and darnell just got beat up that and his decision to defend himself he has decided to work out all the time so he has just come back. it's like the late spring. it's june. abraham is eight and darnell is 14, 12, sorry, bad at math. he's 12 and has just come back to the apartment after running up and down the stairs with bricks in his hands to sort of build up his strength. and the electricity is out in the apartment and abraham has been sitting in the kitchen with his mother doing his homework in the dark except for when the electricity is out in the apartment the grand ma has those candles you can get at the corner store, the 99-cent campbells with all the patron saints so she's sitting in the kitchen gi

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