granholm: really important question.eed to do is add capacity to the transmission grid to bring the clean energy being generated in the states that have a lot of wind and solar to places that have low centers which are using a lot of electricity. we have to do with the department of energy is doing which is investing in research which allows for expanded significant storage -- energy storage so we can use clean energy assets 24/7. the president was to see an investment in keeping the nuclear plants we have online open or investment in next-generation nuclear which is baseload clean power. investment in geothermal which is baseload clean power, investment in hydropower. all of that has to happen. not all of that would be included in this first piece. we are going to fight to make sure it is included in the second bit of legislation we hope will arrive at the president's desk this summer. lisa: we are speaking with jennifer granholm. secretary, there is a question about shale producers. even as we talk about a transition t

so, secretary granholm, what was doe's role in determining this target? did you meet or communicate directly with national climate advisor mccarthy? and what, if any models or data sources from doe were used to inform this process. >> thank you for having that. it's part of a whole of government approach. we're all about making sure every agency is looking at this. they've used the number of resources, economic models, i've certainly talked with them, et cetera. the point is there are a number of paths that you could get to. ratchet up one and then the other, and there are different paths to be able to achieve getting to that goal of 50% reduction or 50 to 52% reduction by 2030. >> yes. okay. well, i understand. now, the second one i want to pivot on touch on a topic relative to my role as a member of the space and aeronautic committee. >> using nuclear power sustainably is vital to advancing the u.s. leadership in space. the space nuclear power propulsion last year in an effort to increase coordination and collaboration across all relevant federal agenci

we welcome secretary granholm. i'm looking forward to hearing how the department will provide robust support for the high priority search programs and infrastructure carried out by the department. doe is one of the nation's largest federal sponsors of basic research in physical sciences and is a world leader in technology development and innovation. as such, it's critical to our work on the science committee to address two of the biggest challenges facing our country right now. climate change and global competitiveness. to address climate change and continue our economic growth, we must develop cleaner, more reliable energy sources. but we have to approach this in a way that doesn't raise energy prices and take away american jobs. we need to invest in research that produces next generation technologies, ensuring america is the leader in affordable energy production and global emissions reductions for years to come. at the same time, we face serious threats to our scientific leadership from the chinese communist par

the bill that jennifer granholm was talking about today that the house is about to mark up is not the my did -- biden plan. they are marking up the highway infrastructure measure that is an appropriations bill that says -- that dixit makes -- designates peer is what we want to spend on the highway bill. it is about $547 billion. it lays the groundwork for congress moving forward on highway infrastructure spending. an almond and sign is this -- a sign here is this bill was written by democrats. the only sign of hope is what you mentioned at the beginning of this segment, which is that joe biden is talking to shelley moore capito. they are still talking. they talked several times last week and they are talking today. biden is striving for a bipartisan deal at this point. they are running up against the clock. they think if we will move this thing in the summer time like we want to and not push into next fall, we have to act now. we are in the final moments. the problem is they are saying the republicans are not coming up high enough. i contend, if they came up higher and added some of t

secretary granholm, good to see you. thank you for joining us.t to recap, first the biden administration said they wanted major action by memorial day. that's come and gone. secretary buttigieg, the transportation secretary, told me last week he wanted a clear direction by tomorrow. senator capito, president biden will talk again tomorrow. how much longer are you willing to keep talking? do they have a week? a month? >> you know, jake, this has got to be done soon. without putting a specific date on it. you noted they talked on friday. they're going to talk on monday. the thing is, it's just a bit perplexing why the republicans haven't moved further on critical pieces. and i'll just say this. in my world, in the energy space, republicans have pushed for pieces of the energy infrastructure that the president had put into the american jobs plan that are not in their counteroffer. for example, they've been talking about investing in the transmission grid. that's infrastructure. both making it more resilient, making it cyber proof, expanding capacity

griff: granholm's remarks followed two massive ransomware attacks this year, the first shut down thezens must shore up cyber security to prepare for possible hacks. in west virginia, -- west virginia senator joe manchin said he will vote against a sweeping bill to overhaul elections, manchin says the act is too broad and too partisan. >> i think it's the wrong piece of legislation to bring our country together and unite our country and i'm not supporting that because i think it would divide us further. griff: manchin says he'll seek bipartisan compromise, no matter how difficult the democrats' legislation has not gathered any republican support and without manchin's vote the likelihood of the bill passing the senate is slim. meanwhile, california democrats are sounding off as a federal judge overturns the state's decades-long assault weapons ban. jillian: that judge defending his decision, stating, quote, like the swiss army knife, the popular ar-15 rifle is a perfect combination of home defense weapon and homeland defense equipment. good for both home and battle. here to discuss wha

joining me is someone who has a lot on her plate, energy secretary jennifer granholm.come back to "meet the press." >> thanks so much, chuck. >> i want to talk about your response at the energy department has been since the colonial pipeline attack. i think about what happens if the plan takes pipeline goes down. you have enbridge which provides the middle of the country gas. if one of those pipelines went down in the next -- this summer, are we better prepared to handle the crisis than we were just a month ago, or do we have a ways to go? >> here is what i would say, is that the tsa actually just put out a series of regulations requiring pipelines to let us know if they have been the victim, in the realtime -- just what chris matthews was just saying. where are these attacks happening, so that we know and we can coordinate with our intelligence community to determine, not just how to respond in the long-term, but how to respond immediately. so to that extent, yes. the president has issued this executive order that really focuses on what the federal government should b

i thought secretary granholm was trying to answer a question.could have played a role and we will have more definitive answers soon. while we are having this debate china continues to make huge advancements in quaw tum computing advanced medicine making and even advance in next generation energy products that will be consumed around the globe. i would agree with kimberly this first bill should focus on physical infrastructure. i think the electric vehicles, a battery powering station should be a big part of that certainly the part of physical infrastructure. telco energy. those airports roads and bridges should make up the first part. anyone concerned about the second phase or second chapter or second state may be of what the president may do remember joe manchin and kyrsten sinema said they are not going to support a breaking the rules that many fear could be broken. >> bret: a thing about process here and the president says he has a deal and it's going to be a great deal. however, nancy pelosi says, bill, we will not take up a bill in the hous

energy secretary jennifer granholm says more crippling cyber attacks could happen and the american powercould be next. listen. >> there are very maligned actors who are trying even as we speak, there are thousands of attacks on all aspects of the energy sector and the private sector generally. griff: granholm's remarks follow two massive ransomware attacks this year, the first shut down the colonial pipeline and then targeted the world's largest meat company, jbs. granholm says corporations and even private citizens must shore up cyber security to prepare for possible hacks. jillian: today, president biden will again meet with republican senator shelley moore captio on infrastructure. the meeting comes after the president rejected the gop's nearly trillion down counter offer friday. capito's west virginia colleague, joe manchin, leading a group of bipartisan lawmakers proposing a plan of their own. a roughly $878 billion proposal. manchin telling chris wallace he's confident a deal can be reached. >> my goodness, the president has gone from 2.25 trillion down to $1 trillion. the republic

i wanted to play the warning from "meet the press" from jennifer granholm, the energy secretary, and the other side. >> i do think that we need to send this strong message that paying a ransomware only exacerbates and accelerates this problem. you are encouraging the bad actors when that happens. >> glen, she's warning that they could take down the power grid and saying she won't pay ransomware. we had atlanta unable to get into their critical 911 and police agencies because of ransomware that they refuse to pay. others, as we know, colonial pipeline paid. what are the answers and how do you address this? >> well, the secretary is right in that this is a huge problem and one that's going to get worse. we're vulnerable across a wide array of sectors, but on the question of whether it makes sense to ban the payment of ransom, that's a tough question. that's one of those issues where it makes sense in general for society as a whole, and when you get down to individual case if it's your company or your hospital there's an extraordinary incentive to pay ransom and make sure you get back t

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ban private companies from paying the ransom but should they here's what energy secretary jennifer granholm> do you think there should be a law on the books that bans the payment of ransom? you may have to outlaw the ransom payments. are you ready to go there? >> yeah. well, i mean, i would. i will say that. but i don't know that -- i don't know whether congress or the president is at that point but i think that we need to send this strong message that paying a ransomware only exacerbates and accelerates this problem you are encouraging the bad actors when that happens. >> for more on the question of to pay or not to pay i'm joined by dimitri alpararovic and michael daniel welcome to both of you fascinating topic. i know a lot of people are thinking about that. dimitri, let me get your reaction to what secretary granholm said banning the payment of ransomware because it encourages this behavior. >> i think this is a really bad idea no one wants to pay the ransom but the reality is sometimes you have no choice look at the colonial pipeline incident if it took months to recover would we have

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guest: i mean, they are enormous, because i think secretary jennifer granholm yesterday said they have the ability to take down the national electric grid, so if you want electricity, those are the stakes we are talking here. people have a way of blaming the people in charge when the lights go out, so the political consequences could be enormous, the policy consequences are enormous. now, this has been an issue where it is not just biden specific. it has been ramping up year after year and things are getting more perilous. and trying to get the federal bureaucracy to move and prepare for some of these potential attacks. host: more details at politico.com and the west wing play bog. alex thompson, white house reporter and co-author of the blog, thank you for being with us. we appreciate it. guest: thank you. host: more of your calls. the issue is whether you think the u.s. government is doing enough to prevent these cyber attacks. the headline from axios.com from fbi director christopher wray comparing the threat to 9/11. roy blunt, senator from missouri, was asked whether russia should

but jennifer granholm was on cnn's new day saying none of this should be a surprise to anyone.he press, it is been publicly reported. everybody has known there are two paths to getting the president's full agenda. let's get saz much as we can in the bipartisan bill and that is what was announced yesterday and then there is another path for the president to get the rest of his agenda through. >> reporter: so clearly there no surprise from jennifer granholm. but there are some questions. is this going to hold, a., among democrats on left, most likely so. they don't want to take away a victory from president biden. but i think the bigger question is what republicans on capitol hill are going to do and certainly lauren has more of the sense of that because we've not yet heard from leader mitch mcconnell and he holds many cards on this. >> lauren, as you know, that is a lot of time for something to fall apart. you're already hearing the phrase from some republicans of double cross, whether that is true or not. ryan lizza made a good point this morning saying that now a vote for the

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florida could have been caused by climate change, too according to the energy secretary jennifer granholmthat the seas are rising. i mean, we know that we are losing inches and inches of beaches. >> peter: that speculation is not welcomed by some lawmakers in florida. >> to come out and to play your politics and to talk about climate change and sea level rise is not the time for that she should be ashamed of herself. >> peter: the drarst the environmental protection agency who says his staff are in touch with local partners on the ground in surfside isn't ready to weigh in on a possible climate connection yet. >> do you agree with the energy secretary granholm that it's possible the surfside condo's collapse may be a result of climate change? >> you know, i don't know if we have enough information at this point. >> peter: president biden is still trying to address climate change the way that he can. a few minutes ago he signed into law a bill that limits methane emissions. at the end of that bill-signing i shouted out to ask him if he has any kind of reaction to donald rumsfeld's passing

. >> my great hope is president biden will lead on this issue, secretary granholm will lead on this issue, we want to work with them. we can get it done if we do it together. >> congressman mike levin gets the last word. thank you very much for joining us tonight. "the 11th hour with brian williams" starts right now. >>> well, good evening. once again. day 135 of the biden administration. the president fighting for a win in congress that could set the stage for legislation that could transform our country and cement his legacy, but getting there is something else entirely. his covid relief act, remember, passed with just democratic votes but now he's working overtime to get senate republicans to sign on to his infrastructure and jobs bill. but the man who appears to hold the key to all of this is a democrat from a state donald trump carried by almost 40 points, west virginia senator joe manchin. in a 50/50 senate, his vote means everything and he wants biden to keep talking with those republicans. >> if this negotiation falls apart tomorrow and the president calls you and says, it's time

. >> joining me now is energy secretary and a member of president biden's jobs cabinet, jennifer granholmhis morning. >> great to be here. >> to that point, is the infrastructure tied to a second bill, yes or no? >> no, he wants both bills, as he said, and he's going to campaign for both bills, but he did not issue or he wanted to make sure he wasn't issuing a veto threat. what he really wants is for people to understand how incredibly historic this bipartisan infrastructure framework is. it is going to be the biggest investment in rail since the start of amtrak. it's the biggest investment in repairing roads and bridges. we've got 46,000 bridges that are in bad condition. the biggest infrastructure investment in transmission grid, which is secretary of energy. i'm really interested in making sure we have biggest investment in water, in making sure that kids in schools don't have led pipes. this is democrats and republicans all agree, and that's really the president's traveling to wisconsin today, a number of us are out on the road because we want to make sure that everybody understands w

what do you make of secretary granholm's warning? >> i think it's spot on.h korea. that's presented by the russian criminal organization who shut down our pipeline and put us in gas lines back in the 1970s again. >> some of the top five in russia, and if you're a secretary granholm, what's the remedy? >> we need to wake up to the problem and take action instead of jawboning. air gapping and separating that system from the internet, or separating the most important data and systems from the internet but it's not in use. for example the three to one backup system where they back up different types of media, two different waves and one is off-site at a different location. there are ways to do this, we just haven't invested the funds. corporate and america has invested the funds and the government has invested the funds in the time into this and it we have enjoyed a real partnership. >> trace: if i can i was going to play the sound and basically we are ignoring this because we don't have a solution. we don't have a way to fight back. i was going to play the soun

energy secretary jennifer granholm said adversaries could shut down the power grid if they want to in a pretty stark b interview with jake tapper. >> do you think that they have the ability to shut down the power grid? >> yeah, they do. i think there are very malign actors trying even as we speak. there are thousands of attacks on the energy sector and the private sector generally. the meat plant, for example, it's happening all of the time. >> so the white house sent out a letter to private companies urging them to lock down their networks and take precautions. it affects the entire country and certain sectors are shut down as a result as we saw with the kcolonial pipeline company. they are also telling them do not pay these ransoms because in doing so you're incentivizing future attacks. >> natasha, thank you for that. going back to work. america's labor market is slowly getting back on work. vaccinations and reopenings are fuelling a roaring post covid economy but there is still a lot of work to do. the pandemic caused a huge rethinking in the american jobs market. before the pande

jennifer granholm's alert comes this week and says they really need to work with the white house. >> i think there are very maligned actors who are trying even as we speak. there are thousands of attacks on all aspects of the energy sector and the private sector generally. the meat-packing plant is an exa example. we need to up our defenses. on the pipelines because the pipelines were a concern, the tsa which actually regulates the pipelines has now required the pipelines to report cyber incidents to the federal government so we at least have intel. >> she says paying them would merely embolden the attackers. >>> and u.s. senator joe manchin is defending his decision to vote against a sweeping votes rights bill. the majority of his fellow democrats support the bill and it would counteract republican efforts to curb voter access at the ballot box. while he spoke to fox news on sunday about the decision. take a listen. >> i think it's a wrong piece of legislation to bring our country together. i'm not supporting that because it would divide us further. it's not going to be united and i

. >> granholm is also urging companies not to pay the ransom, and joe manchin is defending his decision to vote against a sweeping voting rights bill. it would counteract republican efforts to curb voter access at the box. manchin spoke to fox news on sunday about his position. >> i think it's the wrong piece of legislation to bring our country together, and if we continue to divide and separate us more, it's not going to be the country we love and know and it will be hard because it's back and forth no matter who is in power. >> his opposition to changing filibuster rules is a major setback for president biden's agenda. the current senate rules allow republicans to hold up many of the progressive bills the administration supports. >>> coming up on cnn, people are frightened and calling for greater security in burkina faso. a live report is next. kills 99.9% of bacteria. detergent alone, can't. lysol. what it takes to protect. ♪ thousands of women with metastatic breast cancer are living in the moment and tang ibrance. ar ibrance with an aromatase inhibitor is for postmenausal women or

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and you do hear a lot of urgency coming from the administration, and those comments from secretary granholm, and the white house, president biden, is really looking at june 9th as a critical date, because they will take up transportation legislation that is important to biden's overall infrastructure agenda. time is running out for the white house to figure out how much they can really engage in the bipartisan talks. >> with the pressure, phamanu, president has been navigating his own party, which has been interesting, from the liberals to the more moderate, and to take a shot at the democratic senators, and there's no question who he was talking about there, and it tells you what? >> he wants to put pressure on them to change their position about moving along straight party lines, and in some ways it could help joe manchin in west virginia, yes, he does vote more for republicans and that's good for him politically because that's a state that went to donald trump, and the president was wrong on that because he does vote more with democrats than republicans, and they will need joe manchin an

. >> i want to share what secretary granholm, what she said. >> we need to send this strong message thatad actors when that happens. >> okay, john. so our energy secretary is saying do not make payments. this does not help. you know what would help? major government action. what do you expect businesses to do? >> well, these companies are kind of in a really difficult position. we talk a lot about the disruptions and disservices from the ransomware itself. that's only half of the equation. they're also extorting these companies. they'll take your e-mails, leaks and all your information and intellectual property and they'll drip it out to the public. these are billion dollars property. these are a lot of money worth of information that could create issues for them and can create legal issues for them. they're in a terrible position. >> a terrible position, john, it is impossible. yes, the president has signed a cyber security executive order but that's not the same direct intervention, what can and the government should do here? >> there are solution that is the private sector could be ma

. >> granted she was just responding to a question but in her answer, energy secretary jennifer granholmmed to imply that climate change could have been because of the tragic building collapse in florida. >> we will have to wait to see with the analysis is but the issue about resiliency and making sure we adapt to this changing climate, that's going to mean levees need to be built. seawalls need to be built. and for structure needs to be built. >> did you catch the pivot at the end? spending, investments could solve the problem and it's not just grand home making the pitch we can spend our way to safety almost as if on cue headlines abound speculating on the climate crisis as a possible cause for the disaster and the d to remedy the problem while the white house is in democratic hands. >> you saw what happened in texas. this winter. the entire system in the state collapse. the entire system. so we have to act. >> have to act, said biden while speaking in wisconsin today. he was talking about texas' energy problems last winter. problems that many blamed on the expansion of so-called green

. ♪ >>> energy secretary-ge jennife g granholm warning the u.s.r to shut down the power grid? >> they do. i think that there are very malign actors who are trying even as we speak. >> natasha, do her comments echo the level of concern inside the white house? >> definitely. the white house is concerned about ransomware as a national security threat and made it a key priority for this administration, especially following two major ransomware attacks against critical infrastructure countries in the u.s. president biden does plan to raise this issue with russian president vladimir putin when he sees him in geneva later this month. many of the groups that have waged the attacks are based, according to the administration, in russia. the administration is tied here in terms of what it can. they are taking steps to disrupt the ransomware operations. their hands are tied because these are private companies that hold so much of key critical infrastructure here in the united states. while they are trying to get these companies to lockdown their networks, som

energy secretary jennifer granholm spoke with bloomberg television this morning. >> not selling off allf the strategic petroleum reserves. it will be a limited sale to be able to meet the goal, the president's goal was he did not want any of these pay for's to raise taxes on those earning under $400,000. this is one of several elements. it is limited sale. ritika: the bipartisan $579 billion infrastructure deal faces a complicated path in congress. president biden told reporters he expects democrats to push through an even larger bill, but many conservative republicans plan to fight the bipartisan and the democratic legislation, and some liberals say they will not support one without the other. global news 24 hours a day, on air and on quicktake by bloomberg, powered by more than 2700 journalists and analysts in more than 120 countries. i am ritika gupta. this is bloomberg. ♪ >> we will get this done. it is a good moment for america, a good moment for the free world. a good moment to push back against china. lisa: that was representative john garamendi of california's third district fol

. >>> energy secretary jennifer granholm warning the u.s. very malign actors who are trying even as we speak. there are thousands of attacks on all aspects of the energy sector and the private sector generally. the bottom line is, we have all got to up our game with respect to our cyber defenses. the president is doing that. >> her warning comes after weeks of intensifying cyberattacks on government and private sector targets. the white house issued a letter asking companies to take the threat more seriously. that followed cyberattacks that shut down a gas pipeline company and one of the biggest meat packers in the u.s. joining us is glen grestell, a former general counsel for nsa. he served in the obama and trump administrations. good to see you. let's begin with the commends. is the u.s. power grid very vulnerable in your view right now? >> unfortunately, the answer is yes. i think the lesson we are learning from the recent spate of attacks is that hathis is gog to get worse before it gets better. it's not just the energy sector. it's our

the energy secretary granholm said you have the capabilities to shutdown the power grid.dous expertise in intelligence. how worried are you about this and should president biden bring it up? >> well, i'm very proud of the fact that the president is in europe saying we're back. we're back for climate. we're back for open society. we're open for the relationship that we've had in nato in terms of security, security, security, which is so important. and i can tell you in my meetings with all these people, most of it pre-covid, but much of it by zoom since then, that they are so happy that america is back and look forward to this visit by the president. in terms of his meeting with putin, i think that he should meet with him. they should have a line of communication. and issues like cybersecurity and energy, of course, are not necessarily on the table in that meeting, but are the reality that we have to deal with. and energy and cybersecurity are probably two items that may come up at that meeting, but that we have to be prepared for whether they do or not. now, let's just ma

we heard from jennifer granholm saying we can't sit and negotiate forever. >> it's not going to dragond the summer. it needs to happen quickly, but i think there is a sense of optimism. >> there is a sense of optimism that you're hearing there. her comments about that urgency echoed what we heard from the president late last week saying they need to close it down, soon. saying when congress returns to washington next week there has to be a clear direction about the path going forward. one of the real challenges is how it reacts. you talk about the pay there, how they pay for this, and the republicans are saying the money, the $928 billion should come from allocated but unspent money from the covid relief fund and the white house wants new moneys to be spent here nap is yet another divide. >> there are six republican negotiators and you talk to each of them individually and they all have different outlooks on what the end deal will look like if there is going to be an end deal. perhaps the most optimistic is senator shelly morcapido. she wants a deal extremely badly. she is the most o

so president biden's energy secretary, jennifer granholm, was asked today if she thought climate changet of what happened here. watch this. >> do you think that climate could have played a role in that building's collapse? >> well, obviously we don't know fully but the seas are rising. we know we're losing inch and inches of beaches not just in florida but all around. lake michigan where i'm from, we have seen the loss of beaches because the wires are rising. this is a phenomenon that will continue. whether it will -- we'll have to wait to see what the analysis is for this building. >> martha: we'll have to wait to see. we know there were structural issues that had been raised about this particular building, which is on the beach like all the other buildings. but it seems there were unique circumstances here and the investigation is on going. a chilling new 911 audio video of the moments surrounding this collapse. rescuers continue to dig through the rubble removing over three million pounds of concrete. while families wait for answers. mike noriega is waiting for word on his 92-year-ol

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we heard jennifer granholm said the entire transit system could potentially be vulnerable to, this it'sminds me about terrorism in this way, the big problem with investigating international terrorism, terrorists operate in places that are not friendly to us. very similarly, the people engaged in ransom where are operating under the guise of regimes where we have a lot of trouble getting cooperation. so it's a big challenge. it's not something that we can solve alone and we need help from people that are not inclined to give it. >> martha: you think aboutlocking down the infrastructure systems and making sure they're protected and all of that. andy, thanks very much. now back to david spunt who has more for us. >> hi, martha. something that struck me is what the deputy attorney general said. she was asked about if other companies should have to pay ransoms in the future, what should they do? after all there's a warning for other companies out there. the results may not always be the same as today meaning the united states may not always be able to recover money. this may be a fluke situa

on top of that, i want to play for you what the energy secretary, jennifer granholm when he asked ify to shut down the power grid? >> they do. i think there are very maligned actors trying even as we speak, there are thousands of attacks on all aspects of the energy sector and the private sector generally. i mean the meat plant, for example, it's happening all the time. >> she said they're capable of doing this right now in terms of the power grid. do you agree s? >> our adversaries in russia have a history of that. they've actually attacked the power grid in ukraine twice. one of the reasons why our friends in ukraine were able to get the power back up is that the grid is based upon 1960 soviet era technology. they actually have huge switches they can throw without computers being hockeoked up. the american power grid is much much more advanced. it is more efficient but more vulnerable. look at what happened with texas that, is the kind of thing we should be worried about is in a situation of great strain on the power grid already, some kind of attack against even a small number of

. >> when i asked energy secretary granholm over the weekend could the bad actors should down our griding, terrifying. >> turning to the world lead, the stakes and expectations could not be higher for that summit that biden is about to have with vladimir putin. john sullivan warned that the biden administration is at risk of making the same mistakes as previous administrations when dealing with putin. natasha bertrand joins us with this new reporting. what did he have to say? >> the u.s. abd to russia john sullivan said that he's concerned about the u.s. giving concessions to moscow in hopes of restoring the relationship and getting nothing in return. the overarching theme of this briefing we're told is that vladimir putin really has not changed his stripes in the more than two decades that he's been serving as president and prime minister of russia so this was coined of a warning by the u.s. ambassador to lawmakers that this administration risks repeating some of the mistakes of its predecessors if it doesn't go into the meetings and the talks with president putin and the kremlin with

. >>> well, energy secretary jennifer granholm is echoing that same sentiment about cybersecurity.he warns that even the u.s. power grid is vulnerable to a cyberattack. and she talked with cnn's jake tapper earlier today. >> do you think that adversaries of the united states have the capability right now to shut down the power grid? >> uh, yeah, they do. i mean, i think that there are very malign actors who are trying even as we speak, there are thousands of attacks on all aspects of the energy sector and the private sector generally. the meat plant, for example. it's happening all the time. >> the nation's power grid may not be the only thing under attack right now. the building blocks of democracy, fair elections, are under assault by republicans in several states. i'll talk to arizona secretary of state as the partisan election audit there continues. >>> and when we come back, meghan markle and prince harry honor his mother and grandmother as the couple welcomes a baby girl. we are covering the story from both -- (burke) phone it in to farmers to switch and you could save an ave

. >> martha: i heard the energy secretary, jennifer granholm suggesting that among the possibilitiesht be some impact of climate change on this building. do you think that is a tenable possibility here? >> i don't think there's any evidence of that. what we want, we want the truth about what happened so that we know if it has implications for other properties in florida and if there needs to be anything to remedy it on the state or local level. what we're not going to do is use this to advance any pre-existing agenda. there's no agenda here. we want the facts, we want the truth and we want to know what needs to be done to protect other folks that may be living in other types of building. i'll say this. florida and south florida had the strongest building codes in the country because we have to have that with hurricane season every year. am confident what is being built is being done very well. obviously this building was in the early 80s but we take it seriously down here. >> martha: good to hear. i know president trump is on the border right now. you have sent law enforcement from f

i had jennifer granholm said if it was up to her, she would ban ransom payments.ity to now claw it back in the wallets might be a game-changer. but let me start with, what would the impact be if we banned ransom payments? >> i think banning ransom payments is a destination we're certainly letting to get to but we're not there yet. we need to have better resilience and safety net. the colonial pipeline, if they not paid it, it could have gone down. but ransom is the tree in the forest, not the forest. we've got to do a better job to make our resilience more enforced and the infrastructure is protected so we don't get to the place to pay ransom. but we have to create that structure and support and this comes with government and industry working together to be sure we have basic security standards that are practical and reasonable and that are required. >> you know, juan, clawing back of this money, it was interesting when you read what the public reports about it, there's a lot of information i want to know more about but it was basically as they were moving the cry

here's my way or the highway thinking that could happen because we have energy secretary jennifer granholm through but 50 all democrat votes, no w republican votes on the budget reconciliation let's listen to the energy secretary dodge questions about that. >> you did not answer my question the question is would joe manchin vote for a bill if it's just democrats and you said he would vote for if it's bipartisan. i don't know any republicans willing to vote for this. >> that might be his line. >> of course that's his line and you have to ask him where his ultimate bottom line is. elizabeth: it does not sound like they're wheeling and dealing, does not sound like that. what do you think. >> they are not, politics is exactly wheelingea and dealing n sitting down and saying what you guys have to have, here's what we've got to have, you start where you agree, not where you disagree i've never seen incompetent political activity in my life, i have a legislature that is 90% democrat when i first went into office, 90% he was and try to get ten democrats, i had to getem 50 democrats or i was sunk,

we heard today from one of his cabinet secretaries, the energy secretary, jennifer granholm emphasizingency saying that the white house, the administration cannot sit and negotiate forever, but the president has passed the memorial day deadline where he wanted to see serious progress. he did say you have to close this down soon and he will meet with capito again today and a couple of things that we'll be watching for is significant. one, we still don't know the minimum number that the president are willing to accept from the republicans. the president's latest offer is at $1.7 trillion and the frustration that the president has, the white house has, they want this to be new money and not recycled and already allocated monies from the covid relief bill to be spent for this infrastructure plan. so those are two of the things that we'll be watch anything see if we get detail about them and this meeting is hoping that the president can stick to this. >> we get how frustrated, and it was apparent the president is, and he said yesterday that sinema and manchin vote with republicans more than

energy secretary jennifer granholm with an alarming warning, she sounds the alarm on the rise of ransomware gas pipeline and meat packing giant among others in recent weeks. >> do you think adversaries of the united states have the capability right now to shut down the power grid? >> yeah, they do. i mean, i think that there are very maligned actors who are trying even as we speak, there are thousands of attacks on all aspects of the energy sector and the private sector generally. i mean, the meat plant for example. it's happening all the time. eric: among those adversaries, russia. russia hackers, they are blamed for many of those attacks that now comes ahead of president biden's big face-to-face meeting with his russian counter part, vladimir putin. that's going to happen 10 days from now in geneva. the president is expected to raise the issues of the attacks, so what will he say to putin? more importantly, will vladimir listen? dan hoffman is with us now, fox news contributor, former station chief who served in moscow, iraq and pakistan. dan, you know moscow well, you know putin well. fi