ten the government sells the company to a newly set up canada based multinational corporation grant colombia gold in suburbia workers and trade unionists give vent to their anger. in some most recently believe and are almost sure of it that the president already made it as a financial interests in this matter. what he wants in fact and says to take our minds into. the unionist accuses of our rebate he can't prove that the ex-president has direct interests in the new company but strangely enough the main winners in this matter or people closely connected to of are a rebate. at the side of the foreign investors at the head of gran colombia we find mario pacheco his first campaign manager. martinez his minister of mines and more importantly occupying the post of chairman and managing director maria consuelo arago ex minister of culture and a close friend of the president delighted to celebrate in two thousand and eleven the company's entry into the toronto stock market as the role moved such an act of theft is totally unprecedented. not only in colombia but in the world. i've never heard of suc

colombia. welcome back to watching r.t. live from moscow now the go in time record trying five nine eleven suspects has granted to the fans lawyers limited access to see a secret section of the u.s. detention camp it's one of dozens of issues being ironed out during pretrial hearings the fans lawyers have also asked the judge to publicly disclose classified details about so-called cia black sites were they claim their clients were tortured meanwhile the five year long probe into one such jail in poland continues and as our teams are in english now reports whatever the outcome could be swept under the carpet. guantanamo may hold all the headlines but all the interested it means people are moving their focus elsewhere so-called black sites secret prisons were established by the cia during its well publicized war on terror unlike the cause however these secret facilities were never publicly discussed by the authorities the us claimed they could hold prisoners outside the us because then they wouldn't be subject to the geneva conventions and to international law and humanitarian law reports suggest such prisons were in existence from

talking about which is playing colombia that really pushed for a new relationship with india, i could go on and on and on, nato expansion. all of the things we now take for granted were not initiatives of the clinton administration, they were initiatives of members of congress here on capitol hill who changed the world in a very meaningful way, and that is still an opportunity if only we recognize that it's something we need to care about. so sorry for my little speech, but you have two formerrer capitol hill staffers here, so -- >> hi -- [inaudible] um, general question, how do we know when we won like with regard to the kind of counterterrorism -- [inaudible] is there, like, a metric, or how does -- is there anything -- >> i'll repeat the question. the question is how do we know when we've won? >> don't worry about it. [laughter] we're in no danger of winning anytime soon. [laughter] this is, this has become a -- [inaudible] because it's a fair question, obviously, you know, what's your measure for success and how do we know when we've stopped or when we can stop. um, but we are so far away from that now, and we're further away from that now than when this pre