permission but after a year we are going to pay you $10,000 because you're going to give us such granular dataabout your life and more importantly we want to establish this solid relationship about you to know how you genuinely like our brand. that's another reason that people should protect our data. you get to benefit from it versus unseen third parties. havens, what are the policy implications along with privacy? >> there is a lot of policy implications into what i call the happiness economy. give credit where it is due. robert kennedy gave a speech in 1968 at the university of kansas that has been dubbed the "beyond gdp" speech. what he talked about in that speech was why the gdp came into being and what it was built to measure. he pointed out something that most people do not think about. i certainly did not until two years ago. i am not an economist. when you measure matters and what you measure is something you give value to. what you don't measure you devalue. not even necessarily nefariously. what does the gdp measure? it measures things like economic increase. when a ship sinks, an o

but after a year we're going to pay you $10,000 because you're going to give us such granular data, and more importantly, we want to establish this solid relationship with you to know how you genuinely like our brand. that's another reason is people should protect their data is because through the insights of that data, you get to benefit from it versus unseen third parties. >> host: john havens, what are the policy implications along with privacy? >> guest: there's a lot of policy implications into what i call the happiness economy, and first, you know, got to give credit where it's due. robert kennedy gave the speech in 1968 at the university of kansas that's been dubbed the beyond gdp speech, beyond gross domestic product. and what he talked about in that speech was why the gdp came into being and what it was built to measure. and he pointed out something that most people don't think about, i certainly didn't until about two years ago, i'm not an economy. what you measure hearts, and what you measure is something you give value to. what you don't measure you devalue. not even necessa

of pictures and visu visualization and let someone who doesn't understand the ones and zero of granular data he protrayed it as art. so >> host: john havens, how do you recommend people manage their own data? >> guest: there is a couple companies and precedents happening now that i would recommend people check out. there is a company called personal.com. i believe they are based in washington, d.c. and they a service fall fill-it. it is simple. the action of it, why i think they were so smart to introduce the idea of what is called a personal data vault or bank and what they did with the idea is you take the golden copy of your data or pii like our social security number, name, address -- the preciousidate data that makes us see who you are. it is excruciating and of the 10-30 sites we visit today what we enter in a unique password on like 14 different sites. and if we asked the site to remember our cookie data it is still 14 different unique identify things all of the time. so phillip provides a service with the core data and that data is used anytime you sign-up anywhere. but the thing abo

but i would also appreciate, again, a more, a longer timeline and more granular data for us to get a greater understanding than your testimony provided. >> would be ethiopia provide that, senato -- would be happy to provide that, senator. >> i have a question and i think i'll start with mr. palmieri. what do we know about migration of unaccompanied minors to, from honduras, el salvador and guatemala to other central american countries or south american countries? what sort of information could you share on that? >> it appears the primary route that el salvadorian and guatemalan and honduran migrants and unaccompanied children are taking are north. there are reports that some do seek to stay in mexico if they can. part of the mexican effort at the border with guatemala is they are trying to issue better documentation of people who are entering their country so that they can track those, those visitors in a better way as they move through the country and to see where they are ending up. it is without a doubt the large numbers end up at our border. >> absolutely. for mr. osuna, we know

but i would also appreciate, again, a more, a longer timeline and more granular data for us to get a greater understanding than your testimony provided. >> would be ethiopia provide that, senato -- would be happy to provide that, senator. >> i have a question and i think i'll start with mr. palmieri. what do we know about migration of unaccompanied minors to, from honduras, el salvador and guatemala to other central american countries or south american countries? what sort of information could you share on that? >> it appears the primary route that el salvadorian and guatemalan and honduran migrants and unaccompanied children are taking are north. there are reports that some do seek to stay in mexico if they can. part of the mexican effort at the border with guatemala is they are trying to issue better documentation of people who are entering their country so that they can track those, those visitors in a better way as they move through the country and to see where they are ending up. it is without a doubt the large numbers end up at our border. >> absolutely. for mr. osuna, we know

>> one of the wonderful things about the new meters there is a much more granular level of data collected pore every payment session -- for every parking session. with that data and historickal data from sensor we is k see what occupancy and on a typical day, during any given period of time, we ski what the actual revenue for the meters would be. that would be one thing to inform what the right price might be for special events. >> thank you. >> thank you again and join director brinkman in thanking the entire group and look forward to going forward >> when do you think director reiskin we can expect on how we'll expand this sfpark approach and what is that going to look like? i know nobody has answers and i'm not a parking expert, but it would be nice to have some sort of timeframe about we expect to hear about that? >> i think later this year, sometime in the fall we'll come back with recommendations for next steps. >> good. >> thank you very much. >> thank you. >> item 14. >> actually, just so you know, there is no member of the public who indicated an interest in addressing you on thi

she's looking at other granular data that comes out with that labor report tomorrow and that's certainlylooking at, too, right? >> sure, and that's the right thing to look at. a lot of the things that have been wrong with it for so long are starting to get better. so this has been the so-called economic recovery, where there's been a lot of long-term unemployment. long-term unemployment is coming down at twice the rate as short-term unemployment. we're starting to really pick some of the high-hanging fruit. by the way, as to tomorrow's number, 258,000, and you might as well just mail me the t-shirt right now. >> would you agree with that estimate? >> i'll take the t-shirt, thank you. >> when are we going to see wage growth? the kind that the fed wants to see. >> i think that we will see it over the course of the year. right now you still have average hourly earnings, and that's at the low end of the cyclical range that has prevailed since the volcker years. they want to see average earnings 3% higher. i think a year from now, that's where we'll be. >> thank you both. lively discussion on

how do we open up that dialogue even domestically so we can get a higher level of granularity and telemetry from other data sources. >> dr. vixie? >> sof i mentioned in my remarks that the internet is borderless and you>> mentioned in this question that the criminals are borderless. i think that firmly points to the fact that our solutions have to be borderless. so, i will say, again, ncfta in pittsburgh has a huge international outreach program. i go in and do some training there of the international law enforcement community every summer but they do it year-round and it's huge thing because a lot of the other countries who wherey cybercrime is originatig right now don't have the capability to train their people locally. they don't necessarily have budget for tools needed and so forth. so i think, i really want to encourage more outreach of that kind, possibly not just by ncfta but by other u.s. agencies who are leading in the world. i don't have an answer for civil lawsuits. i know that, it can be used if you're trying to get at somebody and you don't know who they are, you can often get a court order us

do i assume we do, we don't get the granular detail we need to understand what happened so the intelligence community, putting on a full effort to get the technical data and the u.s. department should be pressing the russians foreign service to give our technical experts access to that information. dierdre: melissa: i want to go back to my panel and that reaction to what he just said. >> they need to do a full study, find out what happened. if it comes out this was a separatist, find out was a deliberate or an accident? what went on? we have to find that out. >> the president said looks like this could be a terrible tragedy. there are a couple ways to take that. melissa: your interpretation was interesting. there has been a tragedy -- >> could be a tragedy in terms of someone trying to do something and did something different. might be too soon to know that but i can't imagine there being a motive here. i can't imagine this wasn't someone who thought they were following something else. who would want to take this plane out of the sky? melissa: markets react to the news of the malaysia airlines crash. serious stuff. >> the markets are not recovering. t