. >> chuck grassly the republican senator from iowa sent out a tweet a moment ago.e sent out a tweet and meeting in the white house over and very good discussion and nothing obvious decided and i may be surprised that there is progress. don't be a toady. >> i smell optanism in that. >>> now efforts to fro adrian american held in north korea, this time by his mother. >>> i am talking about the pentagon and the decision not to pay death benefits. now that that is over, it is not stopping the call for heads to roll. >> it was intentional. at some point in the department of defense, somebody looked somebody else in the eye and said do not give the death families to the families. >>> it is a small piece of good news for adrian american held in prison in north korea. his mother was allowed to visit him. she arrived in pyongyang. he was sentenced to 15 years of hard level for what the regime calls hostile acts and the efforts by the u.s. government and others are unsuccessful to free him. >>> president obama finally signed a bill to reinstate death benefits. the pentagon w

. >> we have heard from senator grassly. the senator tweeted, meeting at white house over a very good discussion of shut down. hope i'm surprised. there may be progress. for more on today's developments, let's bring in brett bayer. >> it is interesting because we see senator grass ly being optimistic. but another senator told reporters not so much. are you surprised that the senators would have a different reaction after they are all in the same room with the president? >> in washington it has been interesting to see the different sides interpret what they hear from the same meetings. it was more of a serious policy content discussion. did not think going over there thinking it would be useful but i left there thinking it was constructive and left there thinking a sweet spot may be to this problem. you heard about that from the house republicans last night. i think we are a little ways away from that sweet spot. there was an account that president obama had asked for increased revenues. >> right. and that has been his stance

senator chuck grassly said, i would not make a judgment at this point. senator richard burst said it's too early to even consider that. senators flake and ber owe sa and tim scott said it's too early to decide. paying federal workers who got furloughed because of the shutdown, shouldn't this be easy to decide? >> i was working in the clinton administration during the last shutdown, i was barely making enough money as it was to pay my rent and do what i needed to do. and luckily, we got, we were able to get paid for that time. there are people who literally, they are living month to month on, you know, very little money. when you talk about -- >> check to check. >> check to check. and when you talk about not getting paid back that money that you lost. >> congressman, can you brief they're talking about it's too early to decide whether people should get the money even after? >> well, now this is sick. i usually try not to get upset. this is sick when you participate in self-mute illization. and these people through no fault of their own have been laid off,

>> they put the grassly amendment in it. now in many of the cases in which people are saying they dropped the plan, they're being offered plans that give -- >> the president said if you like your plan you can keep it. and by the way, he also said the arm family -- >> if he gives you a better plan for less money, why are you can complaining about that. >> you say less money, 45 out of 50 states are seeing premium increases. >> no. >> no, no, no, yes. >> over the last years. >> no. the average male is increased, average female 62%. >> that's not correct. >> it is correct. look at the screen, you can see the increases. >> ari, let me give you an example. my mother is retiree. she had private insurance through ibm. they dropped it. she's in her 80s. she has to sort out all her options she was told to drop her plan because ibm did. they're changing plans and putting people on the exchange or giving them a lump sum and telling them to buy the market. but it is not what the president promised. >> you know something? i'm giving you