commissioner gravanis is up. nope? sorry about that. i meant to say commissioner josefowitz. >> i want to begin the questioning. what's the difference between transportation load share and transportation to [speaker not understood] management? on your previous pie chart there was one slice for tdm and one slice for mode shift. >> transportation demand management, i think that's -- it also includes pricing. cal, you want to respond to that? >> yes. so, transportation demand management a lot of the work our department does. so, it's the car pool program, it's ride sharing. it's gaunter benefits. as cal just mentioned, it's -- sorry, managing demand. so, it can include congestion pricing. so, things we can do to lessen the demand for people driving alone. the mode shift is where we put all the policies that have to do with infrastructure investment. so, bike lanes, more muni buses, more lines for muni, things like that. so, in terms of better safer streets for pedestrians, so mode shift covers all those transportation infrastructure action

and to all of us, commissioner gravanis unfortunately had to leave. but to those of us who remained, commissioner arce and myself and josefowitz, it was clear from the pie chart and other materials that y'all have provided us, excellent materials, i should say, that, you know, that investing in that single strategy is where we're going to get the biggest bang for the buck if we're really serious about achieving our previously established goals. >> one of the things that came up in that conversation, if i remember correctly, was that if we put solar on the rooftop of every single building in san francisco to the maximum possible, we will achieve 7% of our electric load. so, what are we going to do about the other 93%? and hopefully with efficiency and some behavior changes and better maintenance and better equipment, et cetera, maybe we can get that -- maybe we can cut our energy use in half, which would get us to 14% solar. so, we still have -- we'd still have 86% to go. so, we've got -- we're up against it. we have to figure a way through this very c

commissioner gravanis. >> we do have a motion and a second. just wanted to make sure people understand that following up on what commissioner wald has said, that there are still detail that we are concerned about that our resolution right now doesn't say that we endorse this ordinance drafted exactly as it is in front of us, that there are ways in which we will be talking with supervisor chiu about strengthening it. and also just to remind everyone that it's kind of a first step in a long process because here we're only talking about city property and there are many ways to get exemptions and exceptions and there are some [speaker not understood] in here. and over the next five, ten years i expect to see that it will apply to a much wider range. but for now we are recogn

commissioner gravanis? >> i just want to pole dowries i have to leave now. if there is anything you need a quorum for, let's do it in the next 30 seconds because you're going to lose a quorum now. >> we're good. we did go through our action items and just a couple reports and whatnot. all right, so, folks feel comfortable, ideas after interviews, search committee goes out, gets community feedback, goes back, able to incorporate community feedback into the process, making sure it's iterative and that we're able to get a sense of the pool as we come down to the commission making the final decision by what names to forward. >> sounds good. >> okay. any public comment on this item? seeing none, [gavel] >> can we go to the next item, please, monica? thanks, commissioner. >> actually policy committee report, it's a possible action

commissioner ruth gravanis? >> here. >> commissioner [speaker not understood]? >> here. >> commissioner heather stephenson? >> here. >> commissioner heather wall? >> here. >> [speaker not understood]? >> here. >> next item on the agenda is the approval of minutes of the november 12, 2013 commission on the environment special meeting retreat and december 3, 2013 rescheduled meeting. commissioners, in your packet you have november 12 and december 3rd draft minutes. this is a discussion and action item. ~ >> colleagues, unless there is any discussion, can i get a motion to approve the minutes? >> motion. >> so moved. >> seconded. >> . by commissioner wan [speaker not understood]. all those in favor say aye 2a aye. >> it is approved. >> [speaker not understood]. next item on the agenda -- >> there is [speaker not understood]. >> on the meeting minutes? >> [speaker not understood] public comment? >> very soon. >> that's the next item. >> my apologies for the confusion. >> okay. >> next item is public comment. members of the public may address the commission on items

commissioner gravanis? >> well, i would be interested, if it's all right with the commission, to invite kevin roland come up and just briefly summarize rec and park's approach to ipm and give a couple of examples of the good work that you're doing. >> welcome. >> my name is kevin roland. hello, commissioners. i would like to also thank you for the great work that the department of environment does. it's the inspiration for me to come to work for the city. i owned my own business for many years and wound up selling it to a national company. and after looking at the ipm ordinance and the good work that san francisco is doing and the model that it really is, not just around the country but in other places in the world for sustainable pest management, that was what inspired me to apply for the job. and i thought i'd really like to be part of this. i started working for the city with the bureau of urban forestry and then a fellow named ross montana talked me into it joining recreation and parks which is a challe

. >> commissioner gravanis. >> while looking it up, quick question off the top of your head, roughly, how many people want to get information through snail mail as opposed to e-mail? >> two. >> two, okay. [multiple voices] >> 200 or two? >> two. >> it's the same people for 10 years. >> so, is it the will of the commission at a future date to look at removing this from the bylaws if deputy city attorney ellen says it's okay? >> yes. >> yes. >> okay. he'll find out for us. he's diligently looking it up. maybe we can then deal with that and is there any public comment on this item? seeing none, any other discussion? all right. [gavel] >> can we call item -- this is where we now have item 9. >> department of the environment director search process and candidate qualifications. sponsored speaker is commissioner joshua arce. this is a discussion item. >> okay, colleagues. so, david osman is our acting director for this meeting, but melanie is still with us through the end of the week. we wanted to use this as an opportunity to bring the commission up to speed on the process of searching for

commissioner ruth gravanis? >> here. >> commissioner [speaker not understood]?> here. >> commissioner heather stephenson? >> here. >> commissioner heather wall? >> here. >> [speaker not understood]? >> here. >> next item on the agenda is the approval of minutes of the november 12, 2013 commission on the environment special meeting retreat and december 3, 2013 rescheduled meeting. commissioners, in your packet you have november 12 and december 3rd draft minutes. this is a discussion and action item. ~ >> colleagues, unless there is di

commissioner gravanis. >> i just wanted to congratulate staff on their work on this report. i think it's fairly well done, very readable, very attractive. one just little bone to pick. if there are going to be very many copies printed that we not use reverse drop out [speaker not understood] as a way of saving ink because it's more environmental. i realize this is meant to be read on a website. i'm very hopeful we have some way to track how many people visit and look at it because i think it's a wonderful tool to get across to the general public how much the department is doing. >> colleagues? yeah, i think it's great. it's a great document. i really like the photo on page 1, 2, 3, maybe 4. >> egret. >> the egret. i love the photo. i would love to know where it came from because it's a great photograph. a really great photographer. [laughter] >> the director. >> owe kay, very well done. ~ okay >> [speaker not understood]. >> it's very nice. there was one thing that i felt was interesting. there was enough time to get information about the zero waste textile initiative in the