and today our guest is the artist, chairman of the belarusian union of artists, greb anatolyevich otchiko. hello. glep anatolyevich, we found among your works the one called the story of one family. we ’ll show it now, you can lose yourself in this work and meditate for hours, it seems to me, but against its background we ask. tell you about your family, we know that your mother and father were artists and your grandmother was engaged in folk art? yes, this work was born just like that, i planned it as a child, this is one of the still lifes that i saw every day, this is a cactus, this is a family consisting of several cacti, the largest one is dad, next to me is mom and me sister, that is, my sister, a designer, so i looked i had such an association with this one since childhood. that this is like our family, the four of them are all the time, together all the time, well , the circle is the outline of the fact that this is one cell, and the thorns, and the thorns - it doesn’t matter, that is, the hedgehog also has thorns, but can hugging, how not to say, these are personal boundaries, y