first picture, what goes well with a green bean casserole? >> okay, so i would say there's probably two things that go very well -- well, three things that go very well with a green bean casserole. >> okay. the champagne. >> okay. >> ah, champagne. >> cause champagne goes with everything. >> yes. >> it goes with jj. >> it goes with everything. >> if you really don't know what else to bring -- >> yeah. >> -- what else so drink, just drink champagne. you'll be fine. >> yes. >> so that's like the king of all this essentially the wines. if you're gonna bring one, that's the one to bring? >> absolutely. >> and my personal recommendation is get a brute because the roses can be really, really sweet for some people. >> sometimes. i mean, the sweetness level and the color are independent of one another, but there's a bunch of crazy french language on the front label so. >> very good, just my opinion. >> if you find something you like, run with it. >> what would you recommend next? >> okay, yeah. here's the next picture and it's a sweet potato. >> sweet

green bean casserole, regular green beans, everything else. >> you get the potatoes the potato, the green bean casserole. all of those things are absolutely included and with every dinner you get cranberry relish. dinner rolls and you get to select a pie. >> absolutely. >> this is fantastic. get this, here's the deal dinner for four is only $64.99. >> uh-huh. >> can't beat it. >> that is a great price. to think you could eat dinner for four. >> it's huge portions too you are not going to find it >> you're not going to be hungry. >> 8 ounces of meet and all of those sides you're not going to be hungry. >> there is no way you can feed four people for $65 anywhere else. and a thanksgiving meal that is phenomenal. >> what kinds of pies do people get to choose from? >> some of our famous cream pies, banana cream, chocolate cream, traditional fruit pies, apple, blueberry, red cherry. pecan. pumpkin. >> mmm. >> when do you have to order it did you say that? >> give us 2 24 hours notice you can get whatever you want. we go right to christmas. people want this for christmas or for catering, holida

i like the -- the green bean casserole. that is a good one. >> my favorite side dish is my mom's stuffing. [ laughter ] it is awesome. and i have to say it -- but [ laughter ] no -- thanksgiving is a great day. >> hm. >>> high school football is a great day. thanksgiving eve match up. this was all mainard. he hauls it in for the touch down. they win 40-20. >>> lot of good games tomorrow morning for thanksgivin over to you. i'm a drumstick guy. >> are you really? interesting. thank you. >> pumpkin pie. >> green bean casserole >>> jump fog joy over snow. >> coming up next meet the puppy that can hardly contain herself in the snowflakes and she is be noisy. be silent. be near. be far. be joyful. be together. celebrate joy with dunkin's holiday-flavored coffees, espressos, and donuts. ? no extra charges ? ? cash stays in your pocket ? ? it's got hd streaming others are too stingy... ? (deep voice) with verizon you look awesome. ? you wanted more data and look what santa gave ya ? ? verizon keeps you going with that always-on da

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i love it. >> let's make sure we understand you are going to make the traditional green bean casserole. >> yes, i'm going traditional. >> you're going with a little twist. >> a little pinache. >> we will start with katie and talk about the ingredients. >> we will start with all those usual classics, green beans, mushrooms, onions, freed onions. >> okay. >> the first step is to green beans, i have boiling salted water and the green beans go in for four minutes until they're tender and submerge them in an ice water batting. keeps them green and stops them from cooking. >> i have some onions sauteing in butter, that takes seven or eight minutes, then you add mushrooms. >> what kind of mushrooms are you using? >> i'm using extra meany, you you could use white button like. >> perfect. >> then you add flour. this is a thickener, cook it for a minute or two to get that flour taste out of it. so you pour in the half and half. >> if you didn't want to go this heavy could you put milk. >> you could totally do milk and it will work great. you want it to coat the back of the spoon, it will take a

fobo... >>> we' >>> we have our culinary experts, this morning, the ever popular green bean casserole, two different ways, katie lee is a co-host of food network the kitchen and alice judges the beat bobby flay finale. good morning. how much do you love green bean >> i never had it as an adult and i'm digging my heels in it. i love it. >> you're going to make the traditional green bean casserole and you're going with a little twist. >> a little pinache. >> you go to your area. >> we have green beans, mushroom, onions, fried onions, all that great stuff. the first step water and they go in 4 four minutes until they're tender and submerge them in an ice water bath and -- >> keeps them looking green. >> and stops them from cooking. i have onions, sauteing them in butter. that takes about 7 or 8 minutes and add to it mushrooms. >> what kind of mushrooms are use white button mushrooms if you want. we took this about a minute or two minutes to get the flour taste out of it and helps thicken it up. you pour in the half and half. >> if you don't want to go this heavy, could you put milk in th

you could try out a new recipe like green beans with dried cranberries and walnuts, instead of the typical green bean casserole. or maybe try roasted vegetables in consumes about 45 hundred calories on thanksgiving day. hy-vee dietitian nicole johnson says even when eating the not so good stuff it's still important to keep health in mind. "9:04we like people to think of how they can get more nutrition in their diet. so starting in the produce department is the perfect opportunity for that. there's so many different colors and flavors and varieties of different produce, that if people can incorporate those in thanksgiving dinner they're going to get more nutrition." if you do plan on eating the not to overindulge. it's fine to eat a lot for one day, just try not to make it a habit. two, listen to how your body feels. don't eat too much if it will make you sick. three, go for a walk afterward. it's good for you chris and nicole, i've also placed a link to the recipes i mentioned under this story on kcrg dot com. county has wrapped up a successful first season. the historic johnson county poor farm is now a two-a

today the ever-popular green bean casserole. katie lee is co-host of "the kitchen." alex judges the network's "beat bobby flay finale." >> how much do you love green bean casserole? >> i never had it growing up, ever. so as an adult i'm really digging my heels in with this one. i love it. >> you're going to make the traditional green bean casserole. you're going with a little twist. >> a little panache. >> so you head to your area and we'll start with katie. we'll talk about the ingredients. >> all right. so we're going to start with all those usual classics. green beans, mushrooms, onions, fried onions, all that good stuff. the first step is to cook the green beans. i've got boiling here. the green beans just go in for about four minutes until they're tender. then you want to submerge them in an ice water bath. >> keeps them looking nice and green. >> and it stops the cooking. then just let those drain while you make your cream sauce. i've got onions here, sauteing those in butter. that takes seven or 80s minutes. then you add to it some mushrooms. >> what kind are y

green beans, jolly green giant. they cannot be bought at a farmer's market, they have to be on the shelf since 1966. >> i don't like the casserole. just the beans, i can put them on my plate. i don't need some weird casserole. >> we know you voted for hillary. >> salad? >> you have salad with your thanksgiving meal? >> the only salad allowed is the ambrosia salad by your mentally infirm aunt. that is the only salad allowed. >> i have notes on this. get the salad and vegetables out of the way, mashed potatoes, stuffing, cranberry sauce, pinot gregio. >> beam and coke. >> whiskey. >> you eat like a truck driver. >> which skey and wine. >> a soft pinot noir. >> i thought this was a pinot gregio type panel. >> i have never been to thanksgiving where they have booze. >> what are you, pent costal? >> this sounds interesting. we don't dance either. >> you don't have booze at thanksgiving? >> what is it, just hard drugs? >> a lot of sleeping pills. i don't know why. a lot of green bean casserole. also the map said that michigan went for the rolls and biscuits. michiganders don't even know what a biscuit is. >> i think, i think rolls and

this morning the ever popular green bean casserole. yes, two different ways. katie lee is a co-host of the food network's the kitchen, alex guarnaschelli judges the food network's chopped beat bobby flay finale. good morning to both of you. >> good morning. >> how much do you love green bean casserole? >> i never had it growing up ever. so as an adult i'm really digging my heels in with this one. i love it. >> let's make sure we understand you are going to make the traditional green bean casserole. >> yes, i'm going traditional. >> you're going with a little twist. >> a little pinache. >> we will start with katie and talk about the ingredients. >> we will start with all those usual classics, green beans, mushrooms, onions, freed onions. >> okay. >> the first green beans, i have boiling salted water and the green beans go in for four minutes until they're tender and submerge them in an ice water batting. keeps them green and stops them from cooking. >> i have some onions sauteing in butter, that takes seven or eight minutes, then you add mushrooms. >> what kind

. >> you don't want to make your mashed potatoes monday and green bean casserole. >> mashed potatoes are best day potato casserole you can do that a day ahead of time, fire it in the oven. have the green bean casserole all set. >> cut the time before we head out of here, you have a holiday immediately prom. >> yes. >> if you don't feel like cooking all, get a thanksgiving meal prepared by chef. >> you don't have to tell anyone. you can just come in, pick up a meal, they ever available on wednesday and thursday. we will get you all squared away. it includes everything you see here in front of us. >> we will put the pictures on -- >> we will put the information on our web site. >> for the five people coming to my place, i cooked all of it. ivan, over to you. >> yeah, you left me at the weather center. that's all right. i will be there in a couple of minutes. >>> let's open up a window. gorgeous sunny skies. but you have to step outside to feel the cold. season so far. not just with morning lows but daytime highs as well. 39 the official low at crystal river. 43 brooksville. better but c

we have a good weather pattern [ inaudible ] green bean casserole -- for some of us the working holiday includes -- the broncos knows all business. tricky week for the broncos. the nfl is a week of distraction -- yesterday. i got them and they're really early this morning. we'll go live longer tomorrow. [ inaudible ] [ inaudible ] it's been, at times, a painful -- >> that to build a foundation. [ inaudible ] there are no words that i can say to express my feelings -- >> rarely seen a more beloved figure -- who paid for his first then became an agent of change. leading by example. >> a lot of the guys respectively. a lot of the guys will enjoy being around me. i think the freshman amy right now because i don't want this program to fall apart after i leave. i'm pretty hard on missing class -- so we have been out together at 4:45 a.m. it's really important that it's not just about football. >> four years ago when the senior class came in -- they are forever bound. beyond nine -- >> i'm just thankful they cared enough about each other -- care enough about me, the university, that they stuck

is it green bean casserole, mashed potatoes or mac and cheese. >> mac and cheese. oh! >> how about that? >> just what we need. one more artery to be clogged. >> so mac and cheese essentially was -- a creation basicallne by thomas jefferson. he had been in europe, came back to the white house, served it in 1802. immediately it was a big hit. ultimately probably is what popularized it throughout the united states. >> how about that? >> can you believe that? >> that's not in "hamilton." we should have known that. thank you, hoda and everybody. hoda reunites with a special young friend who has a great deal to be thankful for this year. >>> plus, last-minute ideas for a creative and inviting thanksgiving table. courtesy of our friend danny seal. "i think we can finally get a "why abigger place."g your "bigger place?" "hi!" "yeah, let me check my score too." "try credit karma. it's free." "check out credit karma today." "credit karma. give yourself some credit." here's a little healthy advice. take care of what makes you, you. right down to your skin. aveeno? daily moisturiz

a lot of us have a classic green bean casserole on the table. they're at their peak in high summer. so we want ingredients at their peek right now. winter squash, dark greens. >> you have general tips on how to stay in >> first thing you want to do is make a menu and decide how many people you're going to feed. then make a list. >> lots of folks are happy with just the sides versus the turkey, but you can use one of these now centerpiece vegetarian butternut squash, make it special even for vegan and vegetarian friends. >> can't live without rolls. i love bread. buttery rolls. >> brown and serve, if that's your thing, go for it. >> up next "on the money" a look at the but first a look at how the stock market ended the week. what powers the digital world? communication. like centurylink's broadband network that gives 35,000 fans a cutting edge game experience. or the network that keeps a leading hotel chain's for one of the largest greeting card companies. businesses count on communication, and >>> for more on our >>> and coming up this week, milestone monday. the anniversary of the d

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green beans casserole and mashed potatoes. >> there are no days off in space. not even thanksgiving. the astronauts will put in a on their packets of dehydrated delicacies. feast? that may be a strong word. >>> on on the cbs "moneywatch." millions lose out on overtime pay and a strike may delay your amazon package. jill wagner is at the new york stock exchange with that and more. >> reporter: the record setting post elect rally continued on wall street. the dow passed 19,000 mark for the first time ever. friday and got to wear them yesterday. a little cheer on the floor when the dow hit that milestone. overall, the dow gained 67 points yesterday and the s&p picked up four and the nasdaq finished 17 points higher. >>> opec could agree to a deal to cut oil production at its meeting next week but backing from iran and iraq is far from uncertain. crude lost 21 cents yesterday but the international standard regulation that would have extended overtime eligibility to more than 4 million workers. it was supposed to take effect december 1st. 21 state attorneys general

stuffing and green bean casserole, you're looking at 600-milligrams per serving. >> there are great recipes, cornbread stuffing, other types of stuffing that have lower you should have some veggies on your thanksgiving table. and not green bean casserole, right? how about green beans? >> reporter: dr. william lewis a cardiologist with metro health system tells me there is typically an increase in patients visiting the e.r. on thanksgiving. >> there are some estimates out there that are 25%. >> reporter: you may be wondering why. it is simple. more salt in our diet. >> typically try to control the >> reporter: here are some simple fixes to enjoy a healthier meal. >> first of all, you consider getting breakfast because then your stomach is -- you are beginning to feel like you don't have to make it all up at that dinnertime. consider exercising. >> reporter: so before sitting down to enjoy your thanksgiving meal, follow these simple rules and watch your portion size. >> don't go back for seconds. >> reporter: to hopefully avoid a trip to the e.r. this holiday american heart association in 200

. >> green bean casserole. i love that. yeah, how about that?>> turkey is really delicious. my mom makes a caseein turkey? a occasion turkey. >> do you have a favorite dish?>> i don't. i just >> the other huge game will go down in boulder with the bus? the buffs taking on utah. the winner will walk away with a title and eight trip to the conference champion game. unthinkable a few years ago and a chance for the seniors to enter their legacy.>> i want to be known as the class that helped turn the program around are trying to do and what we are almost doing. >> they are leaving a legacy, they've changed the culture and it will stay because they are not letting anything slime. the police themselves and set standards and hold guys accountable. i haven't had quite a group like this that is doing actually that. >> the coaches jacket was on the air. >> who knew that turkey as a hat? do you remember this guy? on the last play of the game the lions beat the vikings 1613. he still-- 16-11. >> turkey is headwear. >> 30 seconds left for a final look at your weather. >> it looks pretty g

assembles group of green bean casserole, you know you love it, 161 calories for a tiny scoop. if you need a little bit of gravy on those potatoes, an extra 206 calories per one fourth of a cop. if you're looking for a slightly healthier option, go for the cranberry sauce. it's only 86 calories for one slice. if you take a little slice out of the can it is so good.>> homemade is the best >> if you're having corporate, it's 173 calories per slice depending on how healthy you slice it. >> this one you might not want to hear. one heaping scoop of sweet potato casserole, 609 calories. >> is the marshmallows. it has to be. and we haven't even talked about the desert yet. our favorite. will be talking about pumpkin pie and just a few minutes. >> we will skip over that. we don't want to ruin it for everybody. >>> let's take a look at sky cam across the downtown phoenix area. today was a great day and a great way to set up our beautiful holiday weather. tomorrow, temperatures will be in the 70s all throughout the valley. lots of sunshine and no problems with wind. we will be one of the

a lot of us have that classic green bean casserole on the table, but green beans are actually at their peak in high summer. so what we want to do is focus ton ingredients that are at their peak right now. that means winter squash, dark, leafy greens like kale or swiss chard, brussel sprouts, that sort of thing. >> one thing is just to be organized. >> you can't figure out where you're going until you take stock of where you are. first thing you want to do, make a menu and decide how many people you're going to feed. and then you'll want to make a list and stick to it. >> and what about vegan or vegetarian options, if you are somebody like that or have guests like that? >> lots of folks are happy with just the sides versus a turkey, but it might be fun to use one of these new centerpiece vegetarian meals. there's lots of like vegduckens, which is like a sweet potato in an eggplant in a butternut squash. so make it special. >> and any tips on what must be on the table, as far as you're concerned? >> i think the obviously, the turkey, the stuffing, the gravy, but i can't live without roll

. >> green bean casserole. how about that? yeah, yeah. yeah, how want that? >> fried turkey delicious. my mom make as fried cajun turkey. >> do you have a favorite dish for thanksgiving? >> i don't. i just eat everything. % >> we had quite the spread here at the station. turkey, am, corn, mashed potatoes, stuffing. >> a lot of napping. ? tnk of your fellow man. ? ? lend him a helping hand. ? ? put a little love in your heart. ? ? take a good look around... ? ? ...and if you're lookin' down, ? ? put a little love in your heart. ? ?put a little love in your heart.? ? in your heart. ? (avo) the subaru share the love event is happening now . >>> this is what i was talking about before. if you're thinking about getting pet for the family, check out the foothills shelter in golden. it has a one day only pick your own price adoption special. that's tomorrow. the price, whatever it is you pick includes said and newerring, vaccines and a health check. >> rescued animals are great. we have one and that's the only way to go. >> do make sure the entire family is in on it

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just add brad marchon offering two plates of leftover turkey and stuffing anthro green bean casserole in there back for good. wrong team. he finds the back of the which 2-1 the final. bruins lose the third strict and four of the last five. tom brady on the field playing football today. notifying traffic what he does this time of year look at what head not done the past two days in fox for re and nervous and wondered if he would play sunday against the jets. you get tot see him froze today. just trep. expect brady to be passing out gifts to receivers on sunday at metlife stadium. the win in san ran sis owe the 199th he remember ker and listed as questionable for the potential 200 win. one that with tie him on the all-time qb list. so is pride a go against the 3-7 jets? >> move on like everybody else. it is a tough time of year. a lot longer than me. everybody is doing something. it is part of football, you know? play? >> on the injury report. like everybody else. >> yeah. >> dicky: from hollywood, it's "jimmy kimmel live"! tonight, casey affleck. from "dancing with the stars," laurie h

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"everything that comes with it, green bean casserole, the pumpkin pie, the pecan pie, the apple pie. the stuffing, turkey, ham, everything". the musso's ate well in waunakee! greg gard's number 16 badgers basketball team ate up tennessee early in the maui invitational monday. then held on for a 74-62 qur up-georgetown in tonight's semi's. "what makes this tournament so good is that you see good competition three days in a row. and you've got to continue to improve from game to game, and then it also prepares you for what's down the road as you get ready for conference play". giannis had his first triple double of the season in last night's bucks win over the magic, but jabari had a great night too. he poured in 22 points--and buryed a career-high 5 three pointers. mr. parker had a terrific day today--donating area families at the house of peace..a capuchin ministry. "what i'm doing here is just doing my duty as a human being, as a citizen of this county, you know helping the under privileged. people who arent going to be so comfortable during the thanksgiving season like most of us a

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. >> green bean casserole and pumpkin pie and others at 300 calories a sitting, it can add up. you can spend december on a treadmill. happy eating. >> while people love eating thanksgiving dinner and hanging with loved ones, the cooking

the average american will eat a hefty 4500 extra calories a day potatoes color green bean casserole, stuffing, pecan pie, loaded with sugar, fat or both but they are delicious. a slice of that pecan pie ads 456 calories and 21 grams of fat. check out this rare sight in japan, the first november snowfall in decades. unusually low cold air brought the wet snow to tokyo. the city blanketed with snow looking like a winter wonderland . wild. that 1962, 19 34 was the last time we had a hurricane this strong in the atlantic this late in the season. wonder hundred 10 mile per hour wind making landfall right now on the border of iraq lot and costa rica. tough situation. fortunately things are much quieter. extreme happenings globally. have a batch of light snow flurries. sleet pellets will move on through. in the boston area, a couple of sprinkles. we don't typically get snow all that often. the past 16 years it's happened twice around here. a few of us to see some flicks earlier. right now we are dealing with cloud cover. it is gray and will stay that way and so the sunsets after 00 we have

and scoop of green bean casserole is 161 calories and you can be eating more than a total of 3100 calories which is one plate alone most of us are not going to let that stop us from digging in >>> and for the final time president obama spared a turkey's life with a help of twitter users the president pardoned a tucky named tot each year the president is presented with two turkeys and the one he pardons is the national turkey. white first daughters were not on hand for the pardon the president did say that they will not have to worry about missing this tradition when the family leaves the white house in january. turkey pardon what i haven't told them we will do it every year from now on. no cameras just us every year no way i am cuting that habit cold turkey. >> pretty good you probably worry about the other turkey tater he was not officially pardoned. but his life will be spared. tot annotator will live and retire on newly farm. not a bad deal for them. >> sound like a nice retirement place. >> not bad at all. >>> betsy kling no weather arguments. >> i don't think so. that's the go to topi