host: we got your point, let's let sally greenberg jump in. guest: of course, these are very important federal agencies and it was the brainchild of senator elizabeth warren. but iter ran the agency was run by very competent former attorney general from ohio named richard cordray. they are important in financial protection. that the industry, whether as the auto industry or the mortgage loan industry where the financial services industry , payday loan regulations, important with the consumer protection bureau and it's able to do its job. we are big fans of that agency and yes, there have been many bills in congress and sometimes, the bills passed even in times when you don't have necessarily the votes for all the things we want to do for consumers. we get a lot done. i'm with a private organization. understandrtant to is there are both federal agencies that are paid for buyer tax dollars like the cfpb, important agency that we all should support because they are out there protecting all of us. this is an ecosystem of nonprofits like mine which

host: sally greenberg? guest: i agree with everything you just said. wheren the same situation we paid for airfare and i did it through a tour agency and i have friends who called me and asked what i would do. they won't give me my money back. we have found there is a very thin layer of protection from consumers. i'm not getting a full ralph and -- for a full refund. i paid for the same thing, insurance, cancel anytime insurance. the company will give me some refund but they are keeping my insurance, they are keeping my cancel for any reason insurance. i didn't cancel, they canceled. -- you should call your attorney general in arizona. you should report they are keeping your money and they want to offer you a voucher. the second thing is we have two great senators in washington who andesent massachusetts connecticut, senators markey and blumenthal. there are a handful of other senators who have introduced give me my money back, give me my refund back now. forceot there to consumers to take a voucher. you didn't sign up for that. you are not required to

miss greenberg and mr. anderson, what is the best way to reach older adults off line about the scams we are discussing here today? >> older adults are beseeched by robocalls, and even calls on their mobile or their land lines. it has been exacerbated terribly by the pandemic. education for family members, ensuring that your family member, your older family member is not by themselves or does not make any financial decisions without checking with another family member. also, we talked about with mr. anderson and others who asked about, how about letting us know what the scams are? a lot of people don't understand how scams work. sure we've got romance scams. the scammers are very clever. we need to expose people to how scams work. with the anatomy of a scam is. there is a lot of education to do. >> what can nonprofits and ngos play in their roles? >> we have a fraud dot or excite. we have a frost friday newsletter and work with state attorneys general and we work with ftc and a lot of companies. the kinds of

host: we got your point, let's let sally greenberg jump in. guest: of course, these are very important federal agencies and it was the brainchild of senator elizabeth warren. but iter ran the agency was run by very competent former attorney general from ohio named richard cordray. they are important in financial protection. that the industry, whether as the auto industry or the mortgage loan industry where the financial services industry , payday loan regulations, important with the consumer protection bureau and it's able to do its job. we are big fans of that agency and yes, there have been many bills in congress and sometimes, the bills passed even in times when you don't have necessarily the votes for all the things we want to do for consumers. we get a lot done. i'm with a private organization. understandrtant to is there are both federal agencies that are paid for buyer tax dollars like the cfpb, important agency that we all should support because they are out there protecting all of us. this is an ecosystem of nonprofits like mine which

sally greenberg, please explain what the national consumers league is and how you track consumers scams. >>

. >> paul greenberg asks the science tends to advance in constant small steps building on itself in a long time with many incremental contributors or does it advance with lone geniuses like galileo? who is the galileo of the 21st-century? >> i imagine from the question, from this person also read thomas coons's book, and and science advances in both, and it leads to a revolution. the increment the work is not so noticed in the revolution is much more noticed. there are revolutions that are inspired by in galileo's case by technology, the fact that suddenly there is a telescope that is available. when you have something like this, clearly that is a quantum leap. when you have people like einstein suggesting general relativity is almost out of thin air in the sense that it was not in the air at all, that is the type of revolution but otherwise most of the time it is more incremental and dependent on technology. with the galileo the 21st-century i don't know that we haven't yet. to be honest. for a while we thought superstring theory would be an answer to questions, now there are serious

. >> coming up this morning, national consumers league executive director sally greenberg discusses consumer protection efforts amid a surge in coronavirus cases and a state president, who recently precipitated in a white house event on reopening schools, talked about challenges managing a college during coronavirus pandemic. watch c-span's washington journal live at 7:00 eastern sunday morning. on the discussion. >> next week, the house and senate return to legislative business before the august recess. on monday and tuesday, the house takes up the fiscal year 2021 national defense authorization act. the bill establishes policies for defense department programs. votes are expected early on monday. wednesday, the house will consider a bill to remove the bus of chief justice roger tawney, the author of the 1857 dred scott ruling from the old supreme court chamber, and to address the issue of confederate statues on display in the u.s. capitol. the senate also convenes on monday to resume debate on the nomination of russell vote to be director of management and budget. for the remainder of the

sally greenberg, explain first what the ncl is and how you track consumer scams. >> sure. good morning, john. the national consumers league is an organization around since 1899 and we're the premier group to fight for consumers and workers in the united states and abroad. and we have a special interest and focus on fraud. we've got the urlfraud.org and we get a lot of complaints about fraud of all kinds and we share those with law enforcement and members of public and we do a weekly and monthly fraud report. so that gives you background about what we do. >> nclnet.org is the website. you testified before congress this month that the coronavirus opened the door for a tsunami of scams and fraud. how do we have a sense of how many people hit? do we know how many people have been targeted since mid-march? >> yes, indeed. well, fraudsters are very, very good at swooping in in situations of hurricanes, tornados, floods, national disasters and this pandemic definitely falls into that category. so what we found is that there is a whole new range of fraud and efforts to scam consum

. >> greenberg is known as hiring and looking for people who are poor, smart with a deep desire to be deputy epstein by all accounts was someone who fit that bill. >> so he worked his way up and by the age of 27, 28 years old in the early 1980s he was a partner at bear stearns. >> he moved through the ranks but once again of years later he was fired for regulation with very vague disruptions. >> he starts his own company in 1982, jeffrey epstein and company. that ends up becoming financial trust company and then a southern trust and he re- incorporates these businesses into the virgin islands which is an incredibly business savvy move to make because the virgin islands are notorious for being a place where there are lucrative tax breaks and tax incentives for the wealthy and corporations to essentially try to hide as much money as i can from the irs. >> he said no one handled investments for billionaires and people on wall street have no idea where he got the money. they did not know anybody that he was making trades with that he was investing. >> bank or brokerage and you don't have

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>> sally greenberg testified about what consumers are facing in the coronavirus pandemic, she's the national director of the national consumers league. tell us what the ncl is and how it attracts. >> welcome to a special edition of the path forward series was we appreciate pleased to welcome doctor anthony fauci. since he was appointed in 1984 as director of infectious diseases he has conducted extensive research and worked to prevent, diagnose and treat infectious diseases. he has advised 16 presidents on everything from hiv-aids to ebola, sica, and now covid-19. he is the winner of the presidential medal of freedom, the highest civilian honor in the united states. we are grateful for his lifetime of public service and particularly for his candor and expertise during this critical time. let me ask you for a broad overview of the pandemic, where are we now? >> we are in a difficult situation. we have a large outbreak, there have been close to 140,000 deaths and several million infections. that is sobering news. we have some bright spots, areas of the country like the new york metropolitan ar

in greenberg, february 1st, off nashville, the reverend jim lawson, i have known john as -- he took thebeatings. john engaged everything. for example, said -- to test the village. the overriding challenge -- john never stopped going. black and brown had to sit behind at the military bases. said i want my freedom now. he loved that. in december, could be immortalized on the bridge. the beating he took, it was a choice moment. a beating for all of us. john didn't stop there. john lived to be 80. he never stopped. and then a step further, he was able to at the african-american museum, couldn't happen. always on the edge to make these things happen. last act was the voting rights act of 1965. blacks can vote, 18-year-olds can vote. john lewis helped establish democracy around the world. i am sad that he's dead. we talked at least once a month all these years. and our movements get the credit it deserves. happy but sad at the same time. >> rev. jesse jackson. thank you, sir. thank you very much. >> you're welcome. >> take care of yourself. thank you, sir. kelly o'donnell is back with me. she

issues that impact you coming up this morning, national consumers league executive director sally greenbergsumer protection efforts amid the surge of coronavirus scams. and middle tennessee state university president sidney mcphee talks about the challenges managing the college during the coronavirus pandemic. watch c-span's "washington journal," live at 7:00 a.m. eastern this morning. join the discussion. >> here is a look at our live coverage friday. at 10:30 a.m. eastern on c-span, treasury secretary steven mnuchin joins the head of the small business administration on how the small business loan protection program is helping businesses. the u.s. chamber of commerce hold a discussion with dr. anthony fauci at 11:00 a.m. former federal reserve chairs ben bernanke and janet yellen discuss the impact of the coronavirus on the economy. look at hown3, a covid-19 is affecting social security beneficiaries. the house ways and means subcommittee will get underway at noon eastern. next, a hearing on domestic extremist groups and efforts to counter their activity on social media. the house homelan

friday morning, national consumers league executive director sally greenberg discusses efforts amid an coronavirus scams. and an event on wii opening schools. talking about the challenges during the coronavirus pandemic. watch washington journal, live at 7:00 eastern. coverage at our live friday. am, steve mnuchin joins the head of the small business administration for a hearing on how the paycheck protection loan program has been used to help small businesses affected by the coronavirus. the u.s. chamber of commerce hosts a discussion on the pandemic with active -- dr. anthony fauci. chair's testify on the impact on the economy. on c-span3, a look at how covid-19 is impacting social security beneficiaries. the subcommittee hearing will be 12:00g under way at eastern. steve: joining us from las vegas is jon ralston, the editor of "the nevada independent." campaign 2020 was about three and a half months before the election. 2020 was about three and a half months before the election. give us the political lay of the land in joe biden and president donald trump. jon: biden has an advanta

one of the attorneys in brown, jack greenberg, argued the right for them to march lawfully across that bridge after the first march when john lewis was battered. so it takes more than simply legal pronouncements. so what i would encourage you to think about in your own lives, what is it you believe strongly about? what's going on in your school? what's going on in your church? what's going on in your community that you can take a stand for, you can organize for? because every single generation has a responsibility to pick up where we left off. i am proud of the fact that brown v board bears my father's name. there were hundreds of people along with him that were part of this but i also know the work is not done. if i can turn on my television in the last three years and see what i have been seeing, it's now your turn. you're here now. we didn't create the challenges that we're confronted with oftentimes, but it's up to us to decide if they stop with us and what role we're going to play. so i believe brown is a case of activism, it's a case that was a catalyst for so much that came afte

. >> paul greenberg asks does science tend to advance in common small steps building on itself over a long time with many incremental contributors or does it advance from vast leaps like galileo, who is the galileo of the 21st-century? >> i imagine from the question that this person also read marco's book which talked about revolutions in science but the truth is i think that science advances in both. not in one of the two, rather than the other but there is a lot of incremental work which eventually leads to a revolution . so, but sometimes it's very incremental work area and it's not so noticedand then the revolution is much more noticed . there are revolutions that are inspired by for example in galileo's case also by technology. the fact that the telescope is available suddenly. so when you have something like this clearly that is a quantum leap. when you have people like einstein who suggest general relativity seemingly out of thin air, in the sense that it was not in the air at all, that's the type of revolution but otherwise, most of the time it's more incremental and also like

. >> sally greenberg testified about what consumers are facing in the coronavirus pandemic, she's the national director of the national consumers league. tell us what the ncl is and how it attracts. >> welcome to a special edition of the path forward series was we appreciate pleased to welcome doctor anthony fauci. since he was appointed in 1984 as director of infectious diseases he has conducted extensive research and worked to prevent, diagnose and treat infectious diseases. he has advised 16 presidents on everything from hiv-aids to

marshall and the nacp that he worked for and when he left was led by his assistant for many years, jack greenberg that the nacp was constantly fighting for voting rights and that voting rights -- marshall is a patriot, if you wanted to have sort of a picture of a true -- someone who truly believes in american ideals it would have have been thurgood marshall. because people died for the right to register to vote. marshall and other lawyers risked their lives for the right to register to vote. and i think he would answer that part of his legacy is people taking advantage of the victories he led and not sort of sitting back and saying, okay, now we have it and we don't have to keep fighting. so i think that would also be part of his argument. >> in fact, what he said while brown vs. the board of education was an important case he often argued the most important case he had was the texas primary case, white primary, where they were able to break the back of texas using the white primary as a way of excluding african-americans for voting but now instead opened it up so african-americans could have the

d'agostino greenberg music school in new york city-- a school for the visually impaired. >> moses whitaker the piano, and matt repeated it. then she played something else and matt repeated it. she said "bring him in. we'll make the exception." ♪ everybody sing amen everybody sing amen ♪ >> alfonsi: dalia has been teaching matthew ever since. she is a classically trained concert pianist. >> dalia sakas: i was performing a couple of recitals and the dvorak piano quintet is a piece actually for a piano and string quartet. so there's five of us. so matt and his mom came to hear, you know, the night i played. he comes in saturday morning. i walk into the studio and he's playing the opening of the dvorak quintet. you know, and then the cello comes in and he knew that whole thing. and i thought, "oh, very nice." >> alfonsi: dvorak's piano quintet is a challenging piece for five musicians. matthew was playing his version of all five parts on his piano. can he listen to a piece of music for the first time and then play it? does he have that ability? >> sakas: yeah. >> alfonsi: just hearing it once?

friday morning, national consumers league executive director sally greenberg discusses consumer protectionfforts amid the search of coronavirus scams and sidney mcphee, who recently participated on a white house event on reopening schools talks about the challenge and -- challenge in managing a college. .hat "washington journal" live >> here is a look at live eastern friday at 10:30 , steve mnuchin joins the head of the small business administration for hearing on how the paycheck protection loan program is being used well small businesses being affected by the coronavirus. on c-span two, the u.s. chamber of commerce has a discussion on the pandemic with dr. anthony fauci. former federal cheers ben bernanke and janet yellen .estify on the pandemics impact on c-span3, a look at how covid-19 is affecting social security beneficiaries. the house ways and means subcommittee will get underway. week, the house and senate return to legislative business before the august recess. on monday and tuesday, the house takes up the fiscal year 2021 defense authorization act. the bill establishes policies

you.cy issues that impact coming up friday morning, national consumers league xecutive director sally greenberg discusses consumer protection efforts amid a surge in coronavirus scams. tennessee state university's president, sydney mcphee who >> here is a look at our live coverage friday. treasury secretary steven , a hearing on how the paycheck program is helping small businesses affected by the coronavirus. eastern, a11:00 a.m. discussion of the pandemic with dr. fauci. and former federal chairs bernanke and yellen talk about the impact on the economy. on c-span three, a look at how covid-19 is impacting social security beneficiaries. the ways and means committee gets underway at noon eastern. house andek the senate returned to legislative business before the august recess. monday and tuesday the house takes up the fiscal year 2021 national defense authorization act. the bill establishes policies for department programs. votes are expected early monday. wednesday the house will consider a bill to remove the bus of chief justice tommy, the chamber, and to address the issue of confederate statu

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coming up friday morning, national consumers league executive director sally greenberg discusses consumer protection efforts amid a surge in coronavirus scams. and middle tennessee state university's president sidney mcphee who recently participated in a white house event on reopening schools. talks about the challenges, managing a college during the coronavirus pandemic. watch c-span's washington journal live at 7:00 eastern, friday morning. join the discussion. announcer: here's a look at our live coverage friday. at 10:30 a.m. eastern on c-span treasury secretary steven mnuchin joins the head of the small business administration. and a hearing on how the paycheck protection loan program is being used to help small businesses affected by the coronavirus. on c-span2 at 11:00 a.m. eastern the u.s. chamber of commerce hosted a discussion on the pandemic with dr. anthony fauci. and later, former federal reserve chairs ben bernanke and jantz yellen testify on the pandemic's impact on the economy. at a hearing held by the house select subcommittee on the coronavirus crisis. and on c-span3 a l

lewis reading, jack greenberg argued part of the delaware case. george hays and james neighbor it. i want to show another video because you talked about the impact and social experiment on the justices thinking -- they have a video about kenneth and mimi clark who had conducted this case and we will talk about the impact on the justices deciding this case. >> the doll test was integral to the brown v. board of education, because it clearly demonstrated that separate was not equal. separate was not good. in fact, separate was an injustice. what we are looking at here are the dolls that the doctor's kenneth and mamie clark used. the doll tests were a series of studies at mimi clark and kenneth clark did to try to determine racial awareness and young children with the implication being that in a segregated society, if children are aware of race and the differences in race, and the differences and how different racial is was treated -- it with impact how they felt about themselves. what they did that actually became very well-known in part of the brown case, was that he showed young ch

stanley greenberg writes in the atlantic, believe the polls this time.y clinton's numbers. biden has a wide lead because the landscape has changed. from your experience, has the landscape changed? >> well, i guess i would say a couple of things to that. the trump campaign and advisers around him point to the fact that polls in 2016 showed hillary clinton far ahead or above of where candidate trump was. so i think the president himself and the campaign is dismissive of polls based on that 2016 experience. i'm not in a position to say whethj the situation is changed dramatically. but i do think in terms of >> jeff mason, we appreciate your perspective today. thank you so much. >>> a florida mayor explains his decision to close down his town's beaches and what else he's trying to do to stop coronavirus from spreading. i don't see it. only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ try nature's bounty sleep3, a unique tri-layer supplement that calms you, helps you fall asleep faster and stay asleep longer great sleep comes naturally with

friday morning, sally greenberg discusses consumer protection efforts amid a surge in coronavirus scams. and it'll tennessee university's president talks about the challenges of managing a college during a pandemic. join the discussion. >> here's a look at our live coverage friday. 10: 30 a.m., treasury secretary steven mnuchin joins the head of the small business administration for a hearing on how the paycheck protection program is being used to help small businesses. on c-span two at 11:00 a.m., the u.s. chamber of congress hosts a discussion on the pandemic with dr. anthony fauci. and later, ben bernanke and janet yellen testify on the impact on the economy at a hearing held by the senate select subcommittee. a look at how covid-19 is affecting beneficiaries of social security. the ways and means committee will get underway at noon. q&a, john burka special edition of the magazine. >> there's a lot going on in our country. it is unsettling times for a number of americans with everything having to do with the covid crisis to the lockdown to the killing of george floyd. the presidentia

cbs news senior travel adviser peter greenberg joins us. good morning.are facing serious trouble. i think it calls into question what air travel will look like and field like even after we're back to something like a normal. what's the future hold for them? >> well, the numbers are not lying here. in fact, they're pretty bad. delta's loss in the last quarter was $5.7 billion. let me break that out. that's losing $27 million a day. now that's better than their loss back in march which was $100 million a day. and to break that out even further, $30 million was for refunds being issued to passengers for canceled flights. so you've got delta basically trying to do voluntary furloughs to cut the number of their staff. 17,000 members of their organization signed up for it. you mentioned southwest airlines. today is the deadline for their employees to opt in or out of a voluntary furlough period. and american airlines has said they think they have 8,000 flight attendants too many. the real key here, tony, is looking at october 1st. that's the day that the provi

has emerged as a flash point in the recovery now industry insurance giant chubb has a plan evan greenberg is joining us, chairman and ceo of chubb. this is an incredibly difficult topic. let's just set the stage first so people who haven't been following closely understand insurance companies for the most part do not cover pan dem mix. lawmakers both at the state and local level have threatened to take that clause out and make insurers pay anyway. that would be devastating in terms of the losses that insurers would be required to pay. it would invalidate all of the claims out there but that leaves us in a pretty difficult position of trying to figure out what to do in the future, correct? >> it does, becky. good morning nice to hear you and thank you for having me on >> thanks. >> pan dem mix, just to get back to the basic principle, is unlike any other catastrophe it has no time limit and it has no geographic bound just for business law, the loss is in infinite terms limited. unless we have a public/private partnership of some kind in the future where the government takes the -- what we