so far you're not a doctor go greenpeace dot org hey john welcome welcome thanks on the coax you and i talked about this on the radio today that's right and in the time from then until now the koch's have come out and rebutted the argument the report that you are the greenpeace and and. receive the organization that worked with you on that. was two separate reports we became know their own report their own research but sometimes the center for public integrity also released an investigation so the reports it was on the coasts of rebutted your report by saying that they place a few books profits they take appropriate precautions these are you know i'm paraphrasing but these are their words and support they support of the bipartisan chemical facilities answer to terrorism standard city rats and they say that your funded by george. soros so the question did george soros tell you to trash the business interests of these oligarchs and is there anything you want to correct or apologize for you know i mean the codes criticisms are really just acknowledging what we said in our report which i

are the koch brothers playing into the hands of terrorists according to a new greenpeace report the koch's have spent huge sums of money lobbying against legislation that requires greater security at chemical plants prone to terror attacks currently thousands of chemical facilities across america are putting more than one hundred million people at risk if terrorists were to target those facilities koch industries and its subsidiaries run fifty seven of those chemical plants arguably putting four point four million americans in harm's way and while countless environmental labor and health organizations are pushing for legislation that requires companies to beef up their security reports are that the koch's are quietly working to defeat those efforts that's perhaps because they could make more money and save. more money they know that more money spent on security means less money in profits so how are they getting away with this and shouldn't profits come second to saving american lives john dean's joins me now he's a toxic campaigner. campaigner about toxics. so far or not as i said go ahea

on the summit's final day to activists with a group greenpeace and turned around to the state dinner for over one hundred world leaders at the genius royal palace dressed in formal evening where the couple on her is reading politicians talk leaders the action came one day after two activists briefly interrupted the summit plenary chanting slogans for climate justice. the body. goes with power in government and the business sector why engage in mass scale corruption mass scale environmental crimes and who. impunity and and get away with it that. what we did was not something different from what we have done before but the twenty one days we got here the tension is actually the toughest sentence without trial but anyone that greenpeace activists ever have both in europe so it's really a change. i know that i will be charged with something possibly could give me off to or in principle to give me up to two years. ellman. trying to show time. public protests trying to show. a long while and direct action this is a phenomenal motion worldwide from the u.k. where we've seen preventative arr

on the eve of the summit final day two activists with a group greenpeace interrupted a state dinner for over one hundred world leaders at the danish royal palace dressed in formal evening wear and the couple on for a banner is reading politicians talk leaders the action came one day after two activists briefly interrupted the summit finery chanting slogans for climate justice let's be blunt about it. those with power in government and the business sector why engage in mass scale corruption mass scale and by them include crimes and who act with absolute impunity. and get away with it that it's. not. that they're. what we did most not something different from what we have done before but the twenty one days we got here the tension is actually the toughest sentence without trial that anyone greenpeace activists ever have built in europe so it's really a change. i know i will be charged with something that possibly could give me off to or in principle could give me up to two years. this element of trying to shut down. public protest trying to show. peaceful long violent direct action this i

on the eve of the summit's final day two activists with a group greenpeace interrupted a state dinner for over one hundred world leaders at the danish royal palace dressed in formal evening where the couple won for all manner of treating politicians talk leaders the action came one day after two activists briefly interrupted the summit finery chanting slogans for climate justice let's be blunt about it he'll come. out those with power and governments and the business sector well i engaged in mass scale corruption mass scale and by the mental crimes and who absolutely. and and get away with it that. they're. what we did was not something different from what we have done before but the twenty one days we've built here the tension is actually the toughest sentence without trial that anyone that greenpeace activists ever have both in europe so it's really a change. i know i will be charged with something that possibly could give me up to or in principle to give me up to two years. ellman of trying to show time. public protest. before long well direct action this is a normal she world wide

greenpeace says tax -- greenpeace took such important photographs. the photographs that capture it, and they are used to route by look to try and make tangible or imagery the story of this event. catching this photographs begin more and more difficult. one reason why, the photographs of the oral that really captured people's souls. but people organize aggressively in the response. they shut down exxon's stations from a protest to demand policy. they got out of the bush a administration, the senior administration, a critical piece of legislation, the auto pollution act. some of the in 1969 of the coast of santa barbara when an oil well blew people organized. galvanized, ready. they saw injury that captured their hearts and souls. years later they at earth day, the clean water act, clean air act, the environmental protection agency and 11 long years of organizing later began a moratorium on offshore drilling in some places. what happened here was that those photographs, particularly of the brown pelican soaked in oil, the state bird of louisiana captur

greenpeace took such important photographs at this event, not just the work that greenpeace said, but the photographs that capture it are used throughout my book to try and make tangible board and imagery the story of this event. capturing those photographs became more and more difficult. one reason why is because if you remember in valdez, it was the photographs that really captured people's soul. and people organized aggressively in the response to valdez. they shut down exxon station, protested, demanded policy and got out of the bush administration, the bush senior administration, critical piece of legislation. similarly in 1869 at the coast of santa barbara when an oil well blue, people organized, people ready. they saw the imagery that captured hearts and souls in a year later they got birthday. they got the clean water act, the clean air act, the environmental protection agency and the levin long years of organizing later, in moratorium. what happened here was that those photographs, particularly of the brown pelicans soaked in oil captured our hearts and minds. but those pictu

days we go to hear the tension is actually the toughest sentence without trial that anyone that greenpeace activists ever have in europe so it's really a change. i know i will be charged with something that possibly could give me up to or in principle to give me up to two years. of trying to show time. public protest trollish. peaceful nonviolent direct action this is a normal who she worldwide from the u.k. where we've seen preventative arrests will be she attempts crude attempts of police and gratian with the cold to movement definitely happens in the us the barely a country that is not going to well this is. serious this ill is identified by the police as a key thing a good ones best so before major actions like nuclear waste transports she's under surveillance like last time they arrested her before the transfer of the police took a risk who had to be physically to take preventive action on the basis of superstitions and violent and we think the police went way too far and that the law doesn't cover such arrests so when i was there from visits architecture overthrown to always enable p

say greenpeace has criticized the company for taking too long to make information about the spill public adam arnett who is an energy analyst from the environmental organization platform so a lack of transparency is a worrying sign what's important is that the u.k. government when. it's really good rests. and zillions against the plans for part of the number here i remember this example was for the calls for all those christian groups and particularly since to. you for. growth. or sort of share was one problem in that it's part of the support he needs because of all the new growth we. will show is using this for since i would want to go sort of. on the uses of questionable because for those who. are on the smaller worlds and difficult for. proper action star actual. skin you are from the government for these incidents are still climbing in the pool don't have adequate information coming from shore certainly i'm sure probably quite large across the room a broker or show has a. very small bits of information and there's been more of social statement coming from and you will see more. numbe

day well greenpeace has criticized the company for taking too long to make information about the spill public adam on it who is an energy analyst from the environmental organization platform says a lack of transparency is a worrying sign what's important here is that the u.k. government has been rather smart in claiming that it's regulatory regimes where breasts. and resilience against the plans for and so forth have been there for them suppose last year i remember this particular as phil calls all those claims and question it's a particularly since two particularly the year for breeding. for growth almost certain city. sort of share has been playing with it's part of the difficulty part in the certainly the players of all the moving growth in the us and all that shows using dispersants that isn't been highly controversial. on the uses of questionable people swore they do. or on the smaller boats in a more difficult for cleanup operation staunchly on steel from government for these even some stairs to climb in the pool don't have adequate information coming from show certainly insurers

pipe rupture is now under control and the flow of oil into the sea is down to one barrel a day greenpeace has criticised the company for taking too long to make information about the spill public i don't mind it energy analysts from the environmental organisation platform so it's a lack of transparency is a very a sign of. what's important here is that the u.k. government has been rather small in its roots or even breasts. and zillions against the kinds of things are put in the would not sit around. this particular spill calls for all those crimes and question. some still. for breeding. for growth. and also sure wasn't. in the so we need to be clear is that all the moving growth in the us a normal show is using dispersants these highly controversial. normal use is questionable because well they do. more on the small boats and more difficult for. actually. government thought is introduced earlier still climbing with who don't have information coming from shore certainly insurers and large across the in the growth of our large share of. the nation and there's been no official statements com

pipe rupture is now under control and the flow of oil into the sea is down to one barrel a day greenpeace has criticised the company for taking too long to make information about the spill public. energy analysts from the environmental organisation but for a lack of transparency is a worrying sign. is that you create government has been rather small in its roots or even your breasts. against the kinds of things approved happened in the last year. this particular spill calls for all those question it's a. year for. growth. on its. own or so sure wasn't. difficult. because of all the marine growth in the us and all it shows using dispersants isn't while controversial. on the use is questionable because while they do. difficult for. actual. government authorities even so the story is still caught in the pool don't have adequate information points i'm sure certainly i'm sure. about a lot cheryl has some. very small bits of information and there's been no official statements coming from more. members of the company. which there is currently question susan is through which the company. so let's

pipe rupture is now under control and the flow of oil into the sea is down to one barrel a day greenpeace has criticized the company for taking too long to make information about the spill public adam on it who is and their g. analyst from the environmental organization platform says a lack of transparency is a very sign. what's important is that the u.k. government has been rather small in claiming that it's regulatory breasts and is. against the kinds of things hoped for in the one super last year i remember this particular spill calls all those claims and question it's a particularly since two. year for breeding. program life. sort of shows we. certainly need big players of all the moving growth he needs us to know that shows using dispersants highly controversial. and the use is questionable because well they do on the smaller more difficult for. staunchly on. from sources. government for these even to the stairs to climb in the pool don't have adequate information coming from show certainly insurers and public at large are still in the dark about a lot of the polls show has almost ve

pipe rupture is now under control and the flow of oil into the sea is down to one barrel a day greenpeace has criticized the company for taking too long to make information about the spill public adam on who's an energy analyst from the environmental organisation platform says a lack of transparency is a worrying sign. what's important here is that the u.k. government has been rather smart in claiming that its regulatory regimes were breasts. and against the kinds of things hoped for happened in the one suppose last year however this particular spill calls for those claims and question it's a particular sense to the period of the year for breeding. program i've almost certain city. owned or sort of share has been thrown in with it's part of the difficulty plugging the site in the big players of all the moving growth in the us and all that shows using dispersants there isn't one highly controversial. on the use is questionable because all they do is more on the smaller boats and more difficult for. proper staunchly. from government bodies even to those stairs to climb in the pool don't hav

part is now under control and the flow of oil into the sea is now down to one barrel a day well greenpeace is criticize the company for taking too long so i'm taking information about the oil spill public adam oddities in energy and less from the environmental organization platform says a lack of transparency is a warning sign. what's important is that the u.k. government has been rather smart in planning that its regulatory regimes were breasts. and resilient against the confidence of put in government support last year i remember this particular spill calls all those claims and question it's a particularly since two. year for breeding. for a drive almost certain city. owned or sort of share was one point where it's been difficult to plug in the certainly big players of all the new ring growth. we also know that shows using dispersants is a highly controversial. on the use is questionable because well they do. more on the smaller boats and more difficult for. proper motion staunchly on. government for these even to stores to climb in the pool don't have adequate information coming from sh

movement is it this with two kinds of people on the one hand caring, sharing, those who are members of greenpeace and care about nature and on either hand that evil catalyst with big fat cigars and dollar sign sun the pinstripes and say i want to destroy the world. nobody. believe me, and nobody looks at to the beach and to say do know what too would improve that? a bit was improve with the oil slick gore dying pelicans and a sea otter. we like the sea otters we like the beaches. it is in our nature to desire a cleaner and fresher and happier more for a grand world with sea otters. but we can achieve the world of getting the economy back to good dark ages. there is a mentality in the green movement to save the city we must destroy it. i think that theory is wrong and self-destructive and not borne out to and 51 to discover more you could ask me interesting questions and read my book because it is good and it is funny. thank you. [applause] >> we will open two questions tata. please wait for the microphone state your name and affiliation and leave it to a question not a diatribe why he is right or

pipe rupture is now under control and the flow of oil into the sea is down to one barrel a day but greenpeace has criticized the company for taking too long to make information about the spill public adam on energy analysts from the environmental organization platform says a lack of transparency is a worrying sign. what's important here is that you create a woman. claiming that it's regulatory in your breasts unfit for purpose and resilient against a consequence of. not suppressed fear i remember this example still calls for those crimes and question it's a particularly since two. year for. burglary . and or so she was in prison and well it's hard and difficult unplugging the stock in the big players of all the moving growth in the recent past and more than charles using dispersants there isn't one highly controversial. on the uses our own questionable because for the who is for it or and the smaller groups and more difficult for. proper motion structurally. still newer form surface government employees even to the stores to climb in the pool don't have adequate information coming from shore

a while but at some point they're going to get tired of taking back arms and you know bonds and greenpeace is a currency in they're going to want to have something we don't exchange and i think their time is going to come so we you know there's no country in the world that can run a fiscal policy like this over the long term it's unsustainable it's just you know you look at argentina you can look at the whole history of any any third world country tries to be able it was it was up in the face of mentioning so we have to start analysing a long term fiscal budget we have to focus on generational balance not budget balance that's the key issue the fiscal gap of the country is chilling eleven trillion don't take my word from it just take a c b o o's june twenty second projection it will present a calculation it's that and we're that means as we need to cut spending either immediately permanently by forty percent raise taxes by about two thirds of the of the permanent that's what these numbers are so i don't know that that happened are you are you really can start you seem you know this is your

said the sierra club and greenpeace in the rainforest action along with local organizations in appalachia have this very successful anti-coal campaign that involves an array of type x from lobbying and mass mobilization to suing companies to direct sedans and smokestacks and i'm not in custody are going to be blown up for mining cool. and this has succeeded in closing over 100 planes that were scheduled to be built. so if action like that can get her publicity, that is simultaneously addressing the problem and hopefully educating people. they think it's important that education happen while addressing the problem directly. and in terms of how to educate people about those, if i had a special set of tactics, it would've hurt a book about it. but i don't really know what to do other than kinds of things that are being done already. it is an important problem, but i don't have a special angle and how to do with that. >> i came up with the term that is acer over the stop sign with c-3 inside, meaning prevent catastrophic change so anyone is welcome to live entirely. >> sounds good. >> yeah, i