twenty twenty five saying that stricter rules would cost jobs and growth well earlier i spoke to greg ajah director clean vehicles at transport an environment in brussels and i asked him what he makes of that argument it's known since there's a recent study that b.m.w. and folks like and have participated in been done by the european climate foundation that shows it's net positive for jobs in germany until twenty thirty and that includes more than twenty thousand jobs in the automotive industry nearly seventy thousand jobs in the electrical industry and most shops in services all said this is a this is a regulation which drives innovation and creates jobs so how do you explain the resistance then. i think the resistance is because the car industry wants to continue to sell the same old diesel technology in europe because it can't sell it anywhere else in the world and is desperate to try to recover the investment which is made what what kind of rules do you expect the e.u. will propose today and how will those rules impact the car industry we think they will propose a fifteen percent cuts