funneled money you know the conspiracy is right there and i have to tell you i talked to greg gordon just two or three months ago personally and he's completely drunk all the kool-aid about russia gate it's really ridiculous when amy goodman and rachel maddow cannot be distinguished one from the other amazing joe let me go to you she's denied bail because she's a dangerous flight risk here ok i mean looking at her biography and look at her instagram very provocative pictures folks ok food and her love of guns ok and her love of america which is very very clear i mean is this you know we don't have a lot of evidence i read part of the indictment here. this seems like it's a nice ingredient to the russia russia russia mantra go ahead joe. you know i think it's more than that peter i've read the criminal complaint and the f.b.i. agents affidavit in the case and i think it's pretty clear that they're setting this up to be the so-called evidence for collusion as you were everyone knows the miller in the last miller indictment of the the alleged twelve russian g.r.u. agents did not have an

very clear on amy goodman this morning less than two hours ago live ok she ended up after giving greg gordon of mcclatchy twenty minutes she ended up saying now i have to point out that this is all speculation right well the speculation was this was this as follows. robert muller has no russians as as alexander point out there's no russians that we've been able to get and we indicted a whole bunch can indict a ham sandwich what we both here's a russian a media put in a we got her now and she's the only game in town ok and we're going to make sure that this works because if we have a russian word was use we have the holy grail a person that we can set up and say aha see she was working in this intricate scheme through the end and everything else to make sure that trump beat hillary clinton i have to tell you i've never seen it sillier season as i have seen it now in washington yeah but you know when you get a job here but i mean raise absolutely right but i mean if you watch the n n n m it's a b c they don't listen to anything about facts and decisions that have some of the can on congression

amy: to talk more about the arrest of mamaria bootina we are joined by greg gordon, washington correspondent for mcclatchy he has written a . number of exposes about the nra's ties to rus his report in january with peter stone was headlined "fbi investigating whether russian money went to nra to help trump." they how does she fit into this story? >> good morning. i share your sadness about the daily news. is one fascinating and concerning part of the investigation underway into russia's influence in the 2016 election. that is unanswered still is whether russia somehow funneled money to the nra to beef up its support for donald trump. the nra spent $10 million on mitt romney in 2012. they spent more than $30 million because they don't have to probably report the money they spend on getting out the vote. butina came to the united states 2016 to become a graduate student at american university. she has forced all of these added aships and she russian gun rights group called the right to bear arms. disconnectere is a with regard to this group. vladimir putin doesn't want his citizenry to be owni

. >> shepard: thanks, greg. gordonng is here, author of the book "nuclear show down, north korea takes on the world". the big picture. what does this tell you? >> this tells us that the assumption of trump policy, that the north korean decisions to give up their nuclear weapons is wrong. a couple explanations. either kim was playing president trump or another possibility and that is that kim doesn't control the military. we know that there's been a lot of problems at the top. for instance, that reshuffle of the top three people, the defense minister and the execution of aer is general that we learned about last week indicates that there's a fluidity there. so that's a possibility that these guys are just making their weapons and kim doesn't have the ability to stop it. whatever it is, it's bad from our perspective. >> shepard: looking back over history, there's been six-party tax and talks over the decades. i can't find a time within a week or two we were able to prove that the north koreans had either lied about what

greg gordon, thanks for making the time today. >> it's my pleasure.dit my partner, peter stone, who is an expert on the nra and bull working this. >> i love you're giving credit around the office. we'll get him on as well. thank you, sir. >>> up ahead, putin had a very weird answer to these russian dossier questions. ted joins me. just not always where i needed to be. is she alright? i hope so. so i talked to my doctor about humira. i learned humira is for people who still have symptoms of crohn's disease after trying other medications. and the majority of people on humira saw significant symptom relief and many achieved remission in as little as 4 weeks. humira can lower your ability to fight infections, including tuberculosis. serious, sometimes fatal infections and cancers, including lymphoma, have happened; as have blood, liver, and nervous system problems, serious allergic reactions, and new or worsening heart failure. before treatment, get tested for tb. tell your doctor if you've been to areas where certain fungal infections are common, and if