his counsel greg jacob. and said -- >> while they were in hiding at the capitol. >> the riot is still going on and he e-mails and says actually you are responsible for this siege and what happened because basically you guys didn't let this happen in public sending these votes back to the state legislatures. so it is not surprising trump is saying this but i think a lot has to do with the fact that he is unhappy with the coverage pence has gotten. >> i read an e-mail you sent out which had the response by pence's guy back to john eastman while in hiding at the capitol and it was just grace under fire and just a very effective response to john eastman essentially saying you have been pushing a completely bogus legal argument and you bear responsibility for rieling up all of these people who are now attacking the capitol >> i think they knew how trump worked. i think the phrase greg jacob used was they were a serpent in the ear of trump basically pushing these theories saying pence could do something he legally

his counsel, greg jacob, emailed and said -- >> while they were in hiding? >> the right is still going on. he emails and says, actually you are responsible for the siege and what happened. basically you guys didn't let this happen in public, sending these votes back to the state legislature. it's not surprising that tampa saying this, but i think a lot of it has to do it the fact that he's unhappy about the coverage prince has gotten. >> i read an email you sent out which had the response by pence's guy back to john eastman while they were in hiding at the capitol, it was just grace under fire. a very effective response in john eastman saying, you've been pushing a completely bogus legal argument. you bear responsibility for riling up all of these people who are now attacking the capitol. >> i think they knew how trump worked. i think the phrase that greg jacob used, he said that they are worse a serpent in the ear of trump. basically pushing these theories, saying that pence could do something that pence legally could not do. pence had attorneys look into t

pence's own counsel at the time, greg jacobs, testified to that in front of the january 6th committee. >> did dr. eastman admit in front of the predhis proposal would violate the electoral count act? >> he acknowledged that was the case, even what he viewed as the more politically palatable option would violation several provisions but he thought we would do so because the electoral count act was unconstitutional. >> pence himself has also publicly shared his take in an op-ed. writing after eastman spoke, quote, i turned to the president who was distracted and said, mr. president, did you hear that? even your lawyer doesn't think i have the authority to overturn electoral votes. of course, pence has notably refused to answer any of that under oath. he can remain silent on things specifically related to his role in congress that day when, as a reminder, a violent mob outset wad calling for him to be hanged and even brought a noose. although in a sign of his ongoing deference to trump, he has indicated he's willing to take his fight to avoid testifying all the way to the supreme court.

the conversation i think about from trump and pence, this morning of january 6th, we kno from greg jacobmpl there when vice president penc was in his residence tha morning took a call from donal trump, trump side of that phon call we heard but practicall his entire family in the ova office, mike pence on the othe hand excuse himself, and never spoke about happened on th call, those are the things tha really important to get into the record if you jack smith for trump to say to you what did you say back to him. >> suzanne craig, let's talk about where the new york state civil lawsuit into the field o things that you studied so wel and reported on so well, where how that fits into this jigsaw puzzle >> right and that is going t trial in october, it looks lik it's full speed ahead for it >> i have to say when we'r talking about all of these investigations he's facing they were all criminal, and fo the most part donald trump for his whole life his face civi consequences, and laetitia james's lawsuit is civil but i is very consequential to him, expect it will go to trial he's been trying to g

did not agree to an interview, but his chief of staff, mark short, former fellow, chief counsel, greg jacobold us that the vice-president from the start was resolute that he had no authority on january 6th to do anything, but count the votes, officially certified vote from each state. elections are state functions in our system and his role is ceremonial. you open the box and you take arizona's certified slate of electors and you count that. and he told the president that repeatedly. and despite that he was clear on the phone the morning of january 6th, i don't have the authority to do what you're saying. >> the president goes out there to america and says we'll see what mike pence does. if he does the right thing we'll all be very happy people. if he doesn't, we won't be happy. he launches the mob at the vice-president, knowing that the vice-president is not going to do-- doesn't have authority to do what the president is openly telling the people that he does have the authority to do. that to me is the last desperate step to the multi-part plan to launch the mob violently at his own vice-

here is a 1/6 investigator questions greg jacobs email exchange with john eastman >> even dr. knew his theory - >> mr. jacob, immediately before you and the vice president were evacuated to a scecure location in the capitol, you hit send on an email to john eastman explaining why hi legal theory about the vice president's role was wrong. you entered your email stating, quote, thanks to your [ bleep ] we are now under siege dr. eastman replied, and this is hard to believe, his reply back to you was, the siege is because you and your boss, presumably referring to the vice president of the united states, did not do what was necessary to allow this to be aired in a public way so the american people could see for themselves what happened >> and the importance to me seems to be that trump isn't just sitting there with a chorus of different, you know, dip bleeps bar f-ing out stuff he co-signed the east man kouch blueprint. he has co-signed the idea that fake electors manufactured by his own campaign, we heard voicemails, that the legal theory writ bin eastman who actually goes on in

lawyers have sought to block the testimony by two of pence's top aides, his former chief counsel greg jacobs have been dealt with by the chief federal judge in washington, judge beryl howell, who is stepping down this month and will be replaced by a new chief judge. in the cases of mr. jacob and mr. short she ruled that they had to testify on issues that trump had sought to shield through executive privilege. also breaking this afternoon, over at abc news, trump fighting to bar the use of white house lawyers' grand jury testimony in the special counsel probes, seeking to bar cipollone, philbin and hershmann's testimony from being presented to a grand jury. first evaluate those moves and second, do you think the special counsel will prevail? >> yeah, so i think this is deja vu all over again. this is executive privilege as opposed to what pence is doing under speech or debate. it has already been decided and it's a loser three different ways. biden has waived it. he's not acting like president when he's berating pence. and finally, the bedrock sort of can't fail proposition, they need the ev

marc short and greg jacob.recounting for us direct communications that they or vice president pence had with the president, they claimed executive privilege. jack smith is going to be able to push through that it sounds like there has already been litigation, and the chief judge of the district court in washington has said the need in a criminal investigation for relevant information outweighs, supersedes, is more importan ths rather than just telling us what happened before the conversation with the president and what happened after, and their personal view about whether there was or wasn't election fraud, and whether the vice president had this authority will now then have to say here's what i told the president and here's what he said become to me direct evidence of his understanding of facts, of the law that is really important to the special counsel's inquiry. so john ratcliffe, robert o'brien, mike pence himself, and some of the witnesses who we talked to before that missing piece of direct communication

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jacob rees—mogg. i'll see you tomorrow . hello there. greg tomorrow. hello there. i'm greg hurst.met office. broadcast from the met office. widespread frost and patchy across the tonight as . across the uk tonight as. temperatures fall below freezing rain and hill. snow moving in for wednesday . looking at the for wednesday. looking at the bigger arctic air bigger picture, arctic air across the uk at the moment, the winds the north. but winds coming from the north. but as move through wednesday as we move through wednesday into atlantic into thursday, the atlantic moves system moves back in weather system stronger winds, milder air returns for many for this evening have snow showers across northern parts of scotland. strong winds for shetland met office snow and ice warnings here elsewhere. and the clearing skies falling well below freezing and widespread frost forming some patchy ice in places . a few freezing fog places. a few freezing fog patches to temperatures down to minus ten —11 across the glens of scotland. but rising the south—west first thing in the morning on wednesday

i'm jacob rees—mogg and there's been state of nation. hello name's greg. nation.elcome to our latest broadcast from the met office. staying over the staying unsettled over the coming a mixture of rain coming days, a mixture of rain and of those will and showers. some of those will be , winds, and be heavy, brisk winds, too. and we can that nicely on the bigger picture, low pressure dominating , the weather pattern, brisk winds across the uk. outbreaks of , heavy winds across the uk. outbreaks of, heavy rain and winds across the uk. outbreaks of , heavy rain and showers. winds across the uk. outbreaks of, heavy rain and showers. some of, heavy rain and showers. some of these thundery at times too lasting right through the rest of the week and into the weekend this we've got this this evening. we've got this band of shabby rain pushing eastwards across the uk. some heavy in there into early heavy in there into the early hours further showers hours we'll see. further showers moving these could moving in. some of these could be times accompanied by be heavy at times a

i'm still jacob rees—mogg and this is state of the nation tonight. you've been getting in touch with your thoughts . so greg greg says, don't forget that boris broke the it wasn't just the party. the party blatantly took the mickey out of the people. he was supposed to represent. but elizabeth says blair misled over iraq and over kosovo there was no cause, especially in either today the use up is misleading. parliament the windsor framework, pretending it does the opposite of what it does . well, we'll of what it does. well, we'll find out tomorrow from cash is great report yet boris is being tried in a kangaroo court for misleading parliament when he didn't and i that's absolutely spot so thank you elizabeth . the spot so thank you elizabeth. the un secretary—general who like my guest mr. stephen is a socialist has today developed nations such as the united kingdom to move their targets for net zero to 2040. ten years earlier than agreed . a new report by the agreed. a new report by the intergovernmental panel on climate change known to its friends as the ipcc has suggested that the world has money and the

jacob rees—mogg , and this is state of rees—mogg, and this is state of the nation. you've been getting in touch with your thoughts . so in touch with your thoughts. so gregt the lineker supporters have got way, isn't it about time they're concentrate their efforts in defending j.k. rowling or does free speech only when it's the left's narrative . i think greg left's narrative. i think greg will find that you're right. it only matters when it's the left's narrative. norman now this is an association language, so i hope you will follow it better than i do. the bbc scored an own goal and a red card. i think that's bit like hitting yourin think that's bit like hitting your in wicked . from all those your in wicked. from all those who no longer want to subsidise lies that outmoded, biased, overweight bureaucracy and remnant from a past age. i like the outmoded bias to overweight bureaucracy. is a phrase i think i'm going to put in a speech at some point. and alan, agree 100. beeb should privatised and beeb should be privatised and the fee scrapped. thank the licence fee scrapped. thank you for that and keep sending in your views today. junior doctors . the 72