. >>> joining me is greg katsas, he helped prepare for today's testimony and argued on behalf of the 26 states and the national federation of independent businesses yesterday. greg, thank you for joining us. may i just ask you, justice k kenne kennedy's statement, he said the court has a very heavy burden of justification for requiring people to purchase insurance, and he goes on to say, that that changes the relationship of the federal government to the individual in a very fundamental way. greg katsas, what does that mean to you? what's your interpretation? >> well, i think that's a good sign. justice kennedy has always recognized that the reason we limit federal power is to protect individual liberty and this unprecedented expansion threatens individual liberty. very hard to predict outcomes, based on what justices say at argument, but that is a good sign. >> greg, let me ask you. if it was kennedy or somebody else, might have been scalia. look, the federal government can regulate the insurance market. the insurance market, but can't make you go into the market. >> exactly. >> what