the world of cycling but i remember greg lamond. he had an incredible story. he was an incredible competitor after lance armstrong and lance armstrong, as betty said, went after greg lamond. do you think lance armstrong gets it, bill? >> i think he gets that he should get it, and i think what we're seeing here is he's really struggling with it. what's interesting to me is there's sort of parallel views of this going on. there's a lot of people who are skeptical, but i was reading all the reactions today from jonathan and tyler hamilton and frankie. they have all acknowledged how hard it is just to do what he's done, and frankie in a report today was saying number yuntil you sit down and start talking to usada you don't know how hard that is. the people who are there and made the mistakes he did in a smaller way, they seem to have more empathy for him than everyone else. interesting. >> oprah asked about paying off allegations that he attempted to pay off usada or somebody in his world attempted to pay off usada. let's listen to what

fellow teammates floyd landis and tyler hamilton and former tour winner greg lamond all spoke up and all were smeared as jealous liars trying to profit, cover their own troubles, or both. but landis wouldn't be denied, speaking with investigators, and eventually launching the investigation that brought armstrong down. he talked about it in a "nightline" exclusive in 2010. >> if i'm taking on lance armstrong, that should be evidence enough that there's a problem with the system, because i'm saying that a bunch of people did it. at some point, people have to tell their kids that santa claus isn't real. i hate to be the guy to do it, but it's just not real. >> many people think that the real tipping point was floyd landis and his decision to come forward and confess. >> i'd agree with that. >> that was the tipping point, yeah. >> i might back it up a little and talk about the comeback. i think the comeback didn't sit well with floyd. >> reporter: armstrong has been accused of running up a doping bill investigators have pegged at more than a million dollars. officials describe a ghoulish

. >> before lance armstrong, greg lamond was the most famous american cyclist.ut when lamond questioned armstrong's close ties to mychael ferrari, a man who's been banned from cycling in italy and by the u.s. anti-doping agency, armstrong worked to get the bike company trek to drop greg lemond's brand. >> he's not someone i want to even put energy into, to be honest. he has his own problems, own issues to deal with. >> reporter: then there's the story of franky and betsey andrew. when the couple refused to keep up the mystery of lance, he turned on them. in 2008, betsey says she got this voice mail from a friend of armstrong's, which she provided to the "new york daily news." here's part of it. >> i hope somebody breaks a baseball bat over your head. but i also hope that one day you will have adversity in your life and you have some type of tragedy. it's pathetic, betsey. i thought you were a better person than that." >> lance armstrong's fiercest critics say he would do anything to protect himself. in the end, it wasn't all about the bike, like his book proclai

i will -- if you suggest anything about me, like greg lamond did, i will ruin your bike business.l take you out. that's sobero pathic. that's a different bar than somebody cheating to get ahead. what he is doing now is equally sociopathic. he is coming back in and trying to get this public forum again. he is trying to come and make this a market for himself once again. not just to compete, but then to one day run a triathlon series. that's the money. >> what it does, actually, steve, is leave the top spot, top cycling spot open, which is good news for you, brother. >> yeah. i get those training wheels off the bike and let's -- >> no more tricycle days. >> i'm one of the most gullible people in the country because it wasn't until the last few months that i really looked around and said, yeah, he probably -- he probably did this. there's an enompls amount -- i took an enormous amount of pride as an american who watches him win these things year after year and say, you know, yeah, all these europeans are doing it too, and the fact that the stage four cancer survival i think made you

but greg lamond won it three times and never caught for doping. >> steve: along the way, and this ist of people hate lance armstrong, is he had all these denials. no, i'm not doping. we know he was lying all along. but people would say, look, he's taking drugs and epo and all that stuff and he tried to destroy their lives. in fact, a woman named emily o'really was his masseuse for a while. emma was. when asked about him trying to destroy her, he said simply, oh, she got run over. she got run over, kind of like somebody else did it. lance armstrong ran over that woman. here she is talking about whether or not she forgives him after coming clean. >> i hated seeing what some of the riders going through because not all the riders were as comfortable with cheating as lance was. you can tell, personalities change. >> is sorry enough? >> not at all. i apologize to them. >> brian: she's an assistant that found all these needles and said it. i found all these needles. i was with them for the longest time, masseuse, and he actually used performance enhancing drugs. instead of him saying that's

greg think he is, talking about ferrari? i'm going to take him down. and he did. armstrong had great influence with the bike sponsored trekk which dropped its support of lamond's brand, damaging his bike business. he also intimidated his critics and rivals during competition. in the 2004 tour de france, armstrong comfortably held the race's overall lead but surprised everyone when he chased down filipo cimioni. why? only to punish him and prove a point. he had crossed armstrong in the past by testifying against dr. ferrari about doping. armstrong publicly called simioni a liar and told him privately he could, quote, destroy him. after catching him, this gesture of armstrong during the race was widely seen to be directed toward simioni, a warning to stay silent. teammate tyler hamilton fo followed a code of silence until this "60 minutes" interview. >> you saw lance armstrong inject epo? >> yeah, like we all did. like i did many, many times. >> after that interview aired, hamilton began to cooperate with the federal investigation into armstrong. he was physically acosted by armstrong inside a restaurant according to an affidavit and armstrong told hamilton he would m