but greg lawson did an amazing job.es to our cvs -- i mean, to our walgreens, knows the they compete directly with cvs in a very high-level fashion. and i'm just surprised that he's out. but this is a big international deal and he completed it. he said he wanted to turn the company into a health company, he wanted to make it so the stores were better, he wanted to become international, and he's completed all the things he wanted to do. that's what he told me. >> well, passina is a very strong-minded gentleman. he's in his early 70s, but he is viewed as very aggressive. it will be, obviously, important to see who the company chooses to be his successor for the longer term at walgreens. >> but don't you find it amazing, here's a guy that did a fabulous job, lawson -- >> i would like more insight. i should have had it by now. hard to get ahold of people this time of year to a certain extent to understand exactly what took place in that board room. i think boards are looking more carefully at this thing. i don't know what r