greg leggett, the head of the nsa task force on edward snowden, he told "60 minutes" quote we are having a conversation about granting edward snowden leniency. to what degree were you pleased he floated this trial balloon. what do you say to americans, sir, after possibly being alerted to john leon's decision earlier this week reading the panel recommendations, believe edward snowden set in motion something that is proper and just in this country about the scope of surveillance and should not be considered by this government a criminal? >> i've got to be careful here, major, because mr. snowden is under indictment. he's been charged with crimes, and that's the province of the attorney general and ultimately a judge and jury. i can't weigh in specifically on this case at this point. i'll make -- i'll try to see if i can get at the spirit of the question even if i can't talk about the specifics. i said before and i believe that this is an important conversation that we needed to have. i have also said before that the way in which these disclosures happened have been damaging to the united