i could tell you are 66 that i'm 67 cut to peter graves throw and greg morris, peter lupus, barbara bay, marty land, dallas roland, have with the great while. oh, shift fred, south track you could tell we grew up on the same ship. oh we march, i remember that we states our world leaders and stuff. i love that very cool. john . when did you, you have such a track record in it, and at some point you must have just thought, well, i got to get in this business, did you jump in as an owner? did you jump in as a consult? tell me about where you went from bar tendon and working doors and stuff. you know, i wound up believe it or not, a grossinger is in the catskill mountains. and so i became a hotel guy, and then i started my own company back in 1986. dennis is a consulting company and we did many, many bars around the world even in places like hong kong, bangkok. so we became very, very well known bar and nightclub consultants and developers. and we bill properties for hired international companies like that. and then in 1989, i started owning my own operations. and you know, that was, i got