peter out in an hour. >> jesse: may be schiff's secret is going to be a dancing junkie in his underwear. i would watch that one. >> gregcome on over to my place. >> jesse: what do you think about greg's point, that the so-called scandal doesn't have the emotional firepower that other scandals have had? >> juan: i know you are a young man by john dean sat there in his monotone and in a week the numbers tumbled for the president. america just said, wait a minute? what is he saying? that is unbelievable. so that's not it. to me, what we got here is an effort, and greg reflects this, the state of the american people, forget about this. this is a bore. it's not interesting. >> greg: it's not real. >> juan: is not even clinton. but this is much more important, in my opinion. this requires people, the republicans, to say yes, there is a mountain of evidence, but don't look! look at the rainbows, look at the rainbows in every direction! it is tribal blindness. if this was obama, if this was hillary clinton, they would say hang him from the highest tree, this is treason. >> greg: we would hang obama? >> juan: the g.o.p. defense