federal prosecutor and now it, it to in chief of the political new sites. midas touch dot com, and greg swinson is the chairman of republicans overseas u. k. he's also a founding partner with the investment back brig mcadam. he joins us from sorento in italy. thank you very much for joining us here on the inside story. we're on. if i can begin with your place. i mean this has been cool to everything from historic, to fraudulent corrupts to complete the side show. what did you make of the verdict? well, i paid attention to the entire trial. follow the transcripts every single day in the reporting. i thought that the case was extremely strong, and it was, it was very convincing the evidence that was presented. donald trump certainly could have testified in his own defense. he chose not to he called one witness on his behalf. that was basically acting like a mob lawyer trying to and that, that witness wasn't. the testimony was a disaster. so i didn't find the verdict, especially surprising, based on the fact that i was following what was actually happening in the court room. now if i had watched n

the next hour broadcast from columnist lizzie cundy and also chair of the republicans overseas, greg swinson, in a few moments , i'll swinson, in a few moments, i'll be marking the week with comedian and host of the saturday five, darren grimes. and then stay tuned. my political spotlight polling expert, sir john curtice will be joining me. we'll be asking, can we trust the polls as we approach the general election in approach the general election in a couple of weeks? will it be a total wipe—out for the tories then? for my great british debate this hour, i'm asking, has labour turned its back on women? jk rowling has accused sir keir starmer of abandoning women who are concerned about her. excuse me, i thought i could get through it but i can hear you all at home going just cough, woman cough right about transgender rights. a very interesting piece in the times and then difficult conversations. i'll be joined by pilot author and journalist terry tozer discussing flying areas of pilot fatigue and a topical aviation to events and accidents. should we be scared to fly? i but what happens next?

well, joining me now is broadcaster and journalist danny kelly and also greg swinson hanson, greg sorrynning laws to build more prisons. yeah. >> i mean, the simple answer is don't do it. don't override local planning laws because those are wolf's laws are in place for a good reason to protect property values to, you know, there has to be some local government that still has power, and local government should be as as best, as best as they can. it should be done at a local level. so there are existing prisons. they could build additional space in where prisons are are already part of the planning. and so it seems kind of punitive to a degree that that labour wants to find some, you know, beautiful neighbourhood and try to ruin it . it's typical of the sort of radical left . but i think we radical left. but i think we also have to be careful of making sure that there is available prison space, because once you if i'm all for fixing the root causes, i'm all for drug rehab and keeping, you know, drug offenders in, in rehab rather than prisons. but on the other hand, you have to keep in min

the next hour broadcast from columnist lizzie cundy and also chair of the republicans overseas, greg swinsonth comedian and host of the saturday five, darren grimes. and then stay tuned. my political spotlight polling expert, sir john curtice will be joining me. we'll be asking, can we trust the polls as we approach the general election in approach the general election in a couple of weeks? will it be a total wipe—out for the tories then? for my great british debate this hour, i'm asking, has labour turned its back on women? jk rowling has accused sir keir starmer of abandoning women who are concerned about her. excuse me, i thought i could get through it but i can hear you all at home going just cough, woman cough right about transgender rights. a very interesting piece in the times and then difficult conversations. i'll be joined by pilot author and journalist terry tozer discussing flying areas