it's gregg jaret. it was just yesterday that president obama announced ice is not getting stronger, we have contained them. do you believe that perhaps we underestimate just how forbiddable isis really is. >> i think obviously at the moment we don't know which group is responsible for this. certainly the president -- i don't think there's any question since the beginning of the rise of the islamic state originally in iraq, now syria, the president has been behind the curb on this, that there has been the belief that hopefully it will go away. not only i would say is it ludicrous, it's outrageous, because the facts on the ground are not simply in terms of the european counterterrorism situation. i guaranty you, for example, the british government will be looking closely. it's just tragic. >> i almost want matt and andrew to talk to each other. i find it hard to believe how much weaponry they had on them. how do you miss that, andrew? how do you miss these guys rolling think your city with that much kill

it's gregg jaret. it was just yesterday that president obama announced ice is not getting stronger, we have contained them. do you believe that perhaps we underestimate just how forbiddable isis really is. >> i think obviously at the moment we don't know which group is responsible for this. certainly the president -- i don't think there's any question since the beginning of the rise of the islamic state originally in iraq, now syria, the president has been behind the curb on this, that there has been the belief that hopefully it will go away. not only i would say is it ludicrous, it's outrageous, because the facts on the ground are not simply in terms of the european counterterrorism situation. i guaranty you, for example, the british government will be looking closely. it's just tragic. >> i almost want matt and andrew to talk to each other. i find it hard to believe how much weaponry they had on them. how do you miss that, andrew? how do you miss these guys rolling think your city with that much kill