to be about ok we'll do stay with me you can have some input as well as bring in a guest now gregory copley he's the editor of defense of foreign affairs journal and he's also the president of the international strategic studies association gregor it's been a while great to speak to you again you got a chance to absorb this new defense strategy my first instinct is it's sort of help making your budget bigger but you know more than i do what's your reaction. well this is actually a profoundly important national defense strategy and of course it follows president trumps national security strategy which is fairly vague this actually gets back to having u.s. defense and if you like a business as usual basis we saw the last two decades since the nine eleven attacks in two thousand and one absolutely shattered the u.s. military model it abandoned normal if you like conventional and nuclear military activities in favor of a counter terror and a counterinsurgency strategy now it's it realizes it has neglected its conventional force structure and its strategic nuclear force structure and is getting