>> oh, gosh, laurence olivier and gregory peck, jimmy stewart, john wayne. >> the greats. >> the greats you ever imagine at that stage when you were at the juilliard, you were looking around all these talented people, presumably. did you ever imagine in your wildest dreams or maybe nightmares the level of fame that you would one day get through acting? >> no. it's funny. there was something -- i did believe that i was going to be successful as an actor. and i did realize that if you're successful as an actor, it might come along with fringe benefits, i guess, or peripheral anxieties. but that it was possible that i would have a very rewarding, successful and fulfilling life creatively. and if i just stuck to it and worked really hard and didn't doubt myself, which, of course, i did doubt myself. >> don't all actors doubt themselves? >> and didn't always work really hard. i think you have to. >> every actor i've met. they tend to suffer -- everyone says they have big egos. my experience is most actors have chronic insecurity paranoia bouts throughout their career. >> that's sort of the f