rate attributes, there is efficiency and conservation, but what about removing from the loud, like grenoble's -- removing from the load, like renewables? it seems like that would play into that matrix in some way. >> you are right. that could also factor into that energy metering and how it could be removing the load need. vice president vietor: we know there is cost associated double have to be factored in. >> we will look at that. vice president vietor: this time of use and seasonal piece, it is interesting, coming from san francisco and whether we are having now. it is our season but it is unseasonably warm. -- coming from san francisco and the weather we are having now. it is our season, but it is unseasonably warm. there might be additional load impact as we move forward in the next 10 to 50 years. i know we are doing shorter-term rate setting, but it seems like we might want to do some review and forecasting on that as well. i also think it would be interesting to see what power rates are needed and when, and that is sort of the question for ms. hale. i know we have probably reviewed th