. >> we tried to do the old wayne gretzky thing, which is don't skate to where the puck is, skate to the puck is going to be. we try to skate right ahead of the puck. we work closely with these car companies, say, how many are you going to be deploying in the united states, where will you be deploying them, and then people -- and then we try to go in deployed there? -- go and deploy there. nissan is a partner of ours, so they tell us where they are going to sell cars and we have an incentive program with their drivers so when they buy an ev, they get a bucket of charging. >> it raises the question, who will be responsible for driving that, car companies, current oil companies who already have fuel stations, utilities? cathy: the driver overall is that it is a good technology. i've never met a person who has driven an electric car that doesn't love it. it is the pace of innovation. that is number one. number two, we have environmental imperatives that have been around for a while, reducing all kinds of air pollution and reducing carbon pollution. i think the car companies see the nexu