in regards to linking this to the case of grewal, there were deceptive permitting processes. that led to the resolution. i don't see any of the facts present in that case in the permit that is before you. so i don't see any parallels in the point of bringing it up here. i frankly don't see. but i'm available for any questions that the board may have. >> president swig: thank you. >> thank you. mr. duffy? >> dbi, i don't have much to add. i do respect public comment, but if you're going to make public comment, get your facts right. these people did not do work without permits as far as i'm aware. dbi took proper action. we issued the proper permit. we issue 60,000 a year. we investigate complaints. we do our inspections. i wouldn't say -- i'm sure there are times when there are mistakes made, but getting up and making a comment that someone did work without a permit and dbi did something wrong without facts is not right. and where i come from, and as far as i'm concerned, there was 16 days here to do work until the permit got suspended. and i'm sure they did start work and the