griff and ted, you are there right now. 24 hours later. compare and contrast for me. >> here we are. it's become ground zero. can you see if you just spin around there are people gathering. police lines and the cvs back there ted and i talked to the families, to the shop owners to everyone we could, and we will take you now inside that c.v.s., the one perhaps most damaged last night. take a look. >> you can see just a tremendous damage in here as a former law enforcement guy. what does this tell you standing here now? >> well, griff it's unbelievable the amount of damage that we observed. this was once 24 hours ago a striving business in the black community supporting and helping the black community, this is sad griff. this is just very sad. >> the destruction too we won't take our viewers too far in here, but you can get the sense of this is just an aisle. >> i have got to tell threw are a lot of wonderful people i have spoken to in this community. a lot of wonderful people in this community who needed this business. and this business, li

a police griff griff, i have got a question for you. has the word hit the streets that the police have changed their mind and they're not going to release that report about the man who died in custody as promised on friday because that may make a big difference. now they say they are going to give the report to the attorney general. they had promised before to make it public. >> we asked a few people about that. the folks i talked to. they said that doesn't matter to them nearly as much as to whether or not those officers are charged and for them. ted, i will let you weigh in. >> greta that seemed to be one of the concerns out here, over and over we are hearing from the public that they want the officers charged when it comes to the releasing of the report, they said as long as the officers are charged they will feel good about that. quite naturally you know being a lawyer, greta these are closed in the constitution. some process has to take place. >> here is the real problem. i have no idea what the report will show. but i do know as l

griff? >> reporter: that's right. i'm still at the mall.ee a car burning, a new fire started. but much more significant, we are seeing in the air, chris, if you can try and track for us the police helicopter flying over the mall. we have seen chris and i, witnessed people and reports of looting. the cops are in the mall there. the police helicopters circling. it looks like there is an effort by at least some> these looters to come back here and start to take things. we saw people -- we saw one gentleman carrying as much as he could in his arms and coming out of that mall area. of course this police helicopter just circling now. you can hear -- i can hear -- you probably can't -- the loud speakers are telling people to disperse from the maul match we can see people running along there. and of course as i can point out again for you, there is a sense of unrest here at the mall again just starting as it's starting to get dark. and i know that you probably can't see that well. but chris will triand get you a car burn -- try and get you a car bu

and griff, how about you?lip-flops, where do you see it going in five, ten years? >> oh, i see it going everywhere. we're really just trying to show people that you can get a long way with persistence creativity, and respect. i think the things we see on the news, the challenges we're facing, we can do a lot as a community to overcome those problems if we make cool products, help people and tell a cool story along the way. >> you're a -- in your website, the mission statement says it's not about fighting. you know, i -- when i read that i was like wow this guy's an army ranger. this isn't about fighting, it's about basically helping people employing them, the economy. is that what you're seeing overseas when these people are working in the factories on your behalf? >> yeah. definitely. it's a very simple solution. either somebody can get paid $50 to plant a bomb or land mine on the side of the road or can guarantee $400 or $500 a month making a cool product. they'll take that larger pay rate and reliable safe

thanks, griff. >> new information surfacing with hillary clinton emails.ael smith from the "new york times" joins us. michael, what happened? >> 2012, just a few weeks before she is leaving office, the house oversight committee darryl darrell issa sends her a letter hey do you use private email at all for government work? she doqáj reply. in march, seven weeks after she leaves off the state department writes back and doesn't answer the question. >> were emails sent to other agencies as well? >> yes. issa was looking into the administration's hand links of emails. were they using personal accounts improperly? they sent out these thinks things to different cabinet secretaries and they heard back. >> dr" they hear back before they heard from the state department or after. i'm trying to figure out whether the march response was a late response or not a late response? >> it's certainly after mr. issa asked for the response. mr. issa gave her six weeks or so. it went from december until march. >> what was the answer of the state department? >> no answer. >> no a

. >> that's impress griff that's a hard list. it blues paper backs, nonfiction, fiction.hard list. >> oftentimes your books have certain sort of character structure and they're overwhelmingly accepted n. is a different character, a new person all together n. is called "people my ran" -- my memory man." >> he was an n.f.l. player for one play. he had a helmet-to-helmet collision. he can't play football anymore. he becomes a detective in a small town in the midwest. he comes home from work one night and his family has been murdered. his life spirals out of control, he becomes homeless, looses a job, everything and rebuilds his wife a little bit, becomes a private investigator using his unique skills. he sees the world differently from anybody else. a guy walks in 16 months later and conif hes to the crime of killing his family. at the same time there's a mass shooting at the high school and he's brought in to consult on that. that's where you get to see him employ his unique world view to these hallways of the high school. >>it's got to be maddening because if he finds out

congressman, right after today's hearing "on the "on the record's" griff jenkins spoke directly with irs commissioner koskinen. here is what he said. >> our goal was to provide as much taxpayer service as we could with the funds we had. we tut our enforcement activities raised question should i be publicizing that you have to understand that we are not just taking it out of taxpayer service. we actually have serious problems in enforcement and we have no choice. we had it to in fact run this filing season. we had to implement the foreign account tax compliance. we had to implement the back end of the affordable care act. that money wasn't willy-nilly just easily moved. we knew it was not going to help taxpayer service. if the filing season it gone badly this hearing would have been why did you do that? why didn't you take money elsewhere and make sure the filing season worked? we had no choice. the filing season worked it went more smoothly than anybody including me would have expected. we he put the resources into it that was necessary. required. it was not a choice we made and if w