griff jenkins was a different vantage point and better view.s what he shot. >> it's actually a water bomb, they lowered it in. what that would do trip off the other wires by spraying water at the same time. i'm going to step away from this location and give you a live look of this part of it. we are block away south of apartment complex. they still have a hook and ladder in. others have walked in. its third floor apartment. we're not sure they have gone up the stairs or anything like that. at this hour right now they are trying to determine i'm told what is the next course of action. they have a space to get in the apartment. that is good news and no one has been injured so far. >> great news and we wish them continued luck and safety and success. adam, thanks. >> arthel: i want to remind you last chance to sent in your twitter responses. we have been asking how do you explain tragedies like this to your kids. here is response. jay wrote you tell your children that there are evil people in this world. there always have been and there always wil

griff jenkins spoke to neighbors in aurora, colorado. >> reporter: we talked to lot of them.ms to be described to a lo never and one woman says she saw holmes hours before the shooting >> you remember seeing him? >> yeah, thursday. >> reporter: thursday? >> yes. >> reporter: that was hours before. >> what is his name, james holmes and 17 he was running. >> reporter: was his hair orange and red? >> yeah. >>> you see him on tv that this is the guy that lives across the street. wow! it was just like you see on tv, he seemed like a smart intelligent man. he was a calm, casual guy. >> i don't see him. i would say hi, going by, but he >> he was a loner. he seemed nice. he wouldn't say nothing bad. >> reporter: immediately following with a that first mother told me, i contacted the police departments where james holmes and gave them information. they gave it to detectives. we have no way of confirming about seeing him hours before or there was another man but they will look into it. they will find out what was going on. the other man was described as white american, stocky wearing a

. >> and griff jenkins is here with us in aurora, colorado. he spoke with shirley copeland who was on a date last night when this unfolded. >> she was on a date night with his girlfriend. how are you doing? >> doing all right. doing okay. >> what happened? tell me what you saw. what you felt. >> well, i was in theater 8 versus theater 9 which it appears he entered. and i think that the immediate thought is when, when explosions happen, in the theater, and a gun fight scene, you think someone is messing around. and when you realize people are running out are bleeding, and this report is that there is a shooter in the lobby and you can't leave, it changes your perspective a little bit. >> how long were you in this theater? take me through the time frame. start to finish. did you go through the crowd? how concerned were you for your safety? >> yeah. we basically with a feeling of helplessness. and about to minutes all you can do is pray. and when you're not allowed to leave. and you feel you're in a room. we ended up going through upper exit and

. >> and griff jenkins is here with us in aurora, colorado.o was on a date last night when this unfolded. >> she was on a date night with his girlfriend. how are you doing? >> doing all right. doing okay. >> what happened? tell me what you saw. what you felt. >> well, i was in theater 8 versus theater 9 which it appears he entered. and i think that the immediate thought is when, when explosions happen, in the theater, and a gun fight scene, you think someone is messing around. and when you realize people are running out are bleeding, and this report is that there is a shooter in the lobby and you can't leave, it changes your perspective a little bit. >> how long were you in this theater? take me through the time frame. start to finish. did you go through the crowd? how concerned were you for your safety? >> yeah. we basically with a feeling of helplessness. and about to minutes all you can do is pray. and when you're not allowed to leave. and you feel you're in a room. we ended up going through upper exit and through gas canisters to run into