. >> griff jenkins demanding more answers from beth tucker. >> ms. tucker, quick question. you said had you been at the irs 29 years. >> she's not going to answer any questions. >> i'm asking her a question. how can the american people still trust the irs with everything that is known, from the sweetheart deals we heard about to today, to the credit card abuse, targeting of conservatives, as an employee of 30 years, how can the american people still trust the irs. >> the american people should vus trust the irs because we're comprised of roughly 100,000 civil servants that do their best every day for this country. that said, there are some mistakes that have been made, and as you've heard our acting commissioner say, irs is taking steps to get to the bottom of some of the problems we're seeing right now that i think it is critical for the american public to know that we take our mission very seriously. thank you very much. >> one followup, mr. roseman, who plead the fifth, can you tell us will he keep his job? committee members satisfied with the answers they got today from

. >> griff jenkins trying to get more answers. >> how do you expect to get public's trust back if no is held accountable. >> i don't want to answer questions right now. just answered two or three hours back. submit a question to the irs communications office. right now it's important to get back to the irs. i have a lot of work to do. >> why you haven't spoken to lois lerner and people like gregg roseman still have a job who refused to testify yesterday. will you ask lois lerner to come and testify as you have? >> i think -- >> the public's trust is lost, about to take on obama care. will you have everyone, including roseman and lerner come forward? >> i've answered questions for the past two hours, i held a press conference the other day open to the press to ask me a lot of questions. the most important thing i can do right now is get back to work. >> the tea party groups, did they get any clearances about the urs targeting investigation. >> good to be back. >> what it was like for you sitting in the hearing today? >> well, it reminded me that if you are invited to a barbecue, make

griff jenkins spoke with congressman mike turner about the very expensive sag bag. >> over $64,000 was spent on promotional items for the irs employees that attended like this bag leading into the future. all this was part of the environment in which they threw you a $4 million party for themselves. >> leading into the future. >> leading into the future. teamwouk in action. your leadership journey all about our tax dollars spent in inappropriate ways. >> and a nice leather bag or case. where is some of the stuff made? >> this is made in china. they were not even buying american. but it shows that this was a party. they threw themselves a $4 million party. >> and do we know about how much these things cost that we have on the table here? >> the swag bag items around $64,000. or 3,000 of promotional items that were given in addition to the lavish suites, the parties that were thrown. >> congress mapp, wman we wantk you in addition to the items given mere in the swab bag as we call it, various promotional items were provided. these were purchased by the human capital office for $730 and g

. >> and thereafter hearing, reporters including our griff jenkins trying to get more answers from theirector. >> what's next? >> you'll see. >> are you going to reveal classified information? >> we're going to reveal more nofgs the public on the -- some of the terrorist plots and how we oversee the programs and the compliance that we use for them. >> general, how long have you been collecting data? >> this way? >> no. >> could you tell us how long you've been collecting the data? >> come on, guys. watch out. >> we're in here. >> refresh my memory. how long have you been collecting the data? general, can i ask you? what do you say your critics like senator rand paul who say what you're doing is violating the constitution and overreaching the government? >> i would tell you everybody has a difference of opinion, but i'd just tell you that dorts, the administration, and congress all agree to what we said. thank you. >> and finally -- >> excuse me, sir. >> you spoke of the rigorous oversight. i'd just ask you about snowden specifically. how did you not know about snowden? how many more of

of the irs division that staged the $4 million conference trying to make a quick get away but griff jenkinsg t trying to grir more answers. >> at any point when you were appearing in the videos did you or any one else think that was not an appropriate use of taxpayer dollars, sir? don't you feel like you should at least owe an apology to the american people? >> do you you have any plans to step down over this? >> mr. fink, with you agree $4 million for a conference is the inappropriate use of american taxpayer dollars? mr. fink, will you be resigning any time soon? so, that we can stop running here, will you teak one moment to apologize to our audience of taxpayers for your actions? thank you very much, sir. >> greta: congressman tray gowdy joins us. i have talked to so many people in washington who say to me it was only $4 million. nothing compared in the grand scheme of things and i thought to myself people in my hometown must be so enraged when they lost jobs, federal employees who work hard like federal prosecutors across the county. finally you were able to i think really drive the poi