you look at her, and she's just nose to the grindstone, "i am the secretary of state and i will do theest job i can possibly do for our country, regardless of party." i think during the campaign, obama was such a wonderful speaker, is such a wonderful that he was able to carry the election without a lot of substance. i am a supporter of his, but at the same time, you've got to govern, not just be elected. host: the background on hillary clinton during the campaign. guest: we in the book talk about how the hillary and obama relationship is a love story, which is counterintuitive for people. one of the things that mark and i were surprised to learn is how much of a fan hillary clinton was to barack obama before the campaign did she hosted a fund-raiser for his senate campaign, and she talked very admiring look about him, saying that there is a superstar in chicago, the kind of candidate that she and her husband always wanted to support in the the grand part, very intelligent african- american who had a future and the party. when he came to washington, he seeks her out, six her counsel, a

also where i think president clinton can again play a role in keeping everybody's noses to the grindstonekeeping everybody at work, making sure they don't forget about haiti and that we don't miss this opportunity because a disaster is an opportunity if you take it, but it will take a lot of time and attention in a way which perhaps the international community is not always good at. >> suarez: you've written in your leaked memo of the necessity of putting in place right t right plan. do you have this feeling that time is being lost right now? that there are... there's a plan that needs to be put in place quickly in order for the situation not to... this opportunity that you described not to be lost? >> well, i think we need to move fast. i mean i was talking there again about the emergency needs. we need to define very clearly what they are for the next three to six months and that's, of course, the appeal what were launching today was about. i think for the longer term we need to have a quick plan but it's very important to get it right and it's very important to get it right in the sens

and, frankly, one of the problems that schools have is that their heads are down so far to the grindstonethey don't look up and say, what's outside of these walls? what could we bring in outside because they're so busy trying to get people to come to potluck dinners or whatever it is. now, i'll try to channel susan for a second. susan kurland and the school coalition consultants and hull-house were far more interested than we were in mobilizing the parents who were at the school. and they worked very, very, very hard to do that. and it was a point of contention with us because we only have so many hours in the day to do this, you know? and we're trying to do this really, really big project. once the -- once the rubric was set up where we had a platter of stuff -- it was said build it with your principle. put it on a silver platter. they'll eat less and they'll ask for a appetizer in which case you'll be delighted to provide it or they'll walk away from the table. but at the end of the day you will have a platter of food that everybody can eat. and that was sort of our guiding principle th

she is just sort of notice to the grindstone. i'm the secretary of state and i am going to do the best job i can possibly do for the country regardless of party. i think during the campaign obama was such a wonderful speaker and is such a wonderful speaker that he was able to carry the election without a lot of substance. i'm a supporter of his but at the same type you have to govern and not just be elected. >> host: john heilemann, the backroom of hillary clinton during the campaign. >> guest: we somewhat fancifully at the beginning of the book talk about how silvery and obama relationship is a love story which i think it's counter intuitive and one of the things mark and i were surprised to learn is how much of a fan hillary clinton was of barack obama before either got in the race. we report about her when he ran for the senate into this effort hosting fundraisers and chicago and bill clinton appearing at a fund-raiser in 2004 and her talking apply rubbly about him saying there's a superstore in chicago. she was the kind of ca

the school and frankly one of the problems the schools had is their heads or down so far to the grindstone outside of these walls, what could we bring in from outside because they're so busy trying to get people to come to public dinners or whatever it is. now i will try to channel susan for a moment. susan and the schools coalition consultants and house were far more interested than we were in mobilizing the parents who were at the school, and they worked very, very hard to do that and it was a point of contention because we only have so many hours in the day to do this and we are trying to do this big project. once the rubric was set up the we had a plethora of stuff the reformers said build it with your principal. padilla missile fer plater. people will either eat, eat less, ask for an appetizer in which case you'll be delighted to provide it or they will walk away from the table but at the end of the day you will have a platter of food that everybody can eat and that was always sort of guiding principle that we were going to be a silver platter of food and we were not going to, you kno