i am passionate about an episode with governor grisham of new mexico.he is a former health secretary at the state level, now the governor of the state. every year, we pay our taxes. it is the most universal active citizenship on a daily basis, more so than voting, which happens every two or four years. when we do that, it is a pact, but it is part of the underpinnings of civil society that we are going to contribute to schools, even if we may not have children. or we will contribute to pipelines that may not feed clean water into our homes, but our neighbors home down the road. in general, there is a perception that government is not looking out for us. who is looking out for us? maybe our congressperson, who has favorability in the district, but not the senator or neighboring congresspeople. i asked the governor why there was not an app, is easily accessible as c-span or bloomberg, where you could see expenditures at the municipal, state and federal level and understand where they are going towards, whether it is ensuring public safety is sound with fi

the teams worked closely with the governor grisham to harness available technology so we can identify and stop these dangerous leaks and the governor of wyoming demonstrated how carbon capture technology can be used both faithfully and responsibly. with the leadership to craft a successful clean school bus program under the governor's leadership colorado launched a 65 million dollar clean school bus program that serves as a model for how to effectively implement a similar program on a national scale. we have $5 billion to electrify the school buses across this country and colorado's leadership will be instrumental in helping to design the program. these are onlyy a few examples f how we can lean on each other to make impactful change across an array of issues. there is no doubt that we will have differences. there's no doubt that there are significant challenges facing the country and the world, but we need you. we are relying on partners to work together and i'm incredibly proud of the work that we've done during this administration andan proud of the partnerships that we forced so t

brenda grisham has spoken with people connected to the killings and says the victims are a man and a woman is danger is everywhere right you know, crime is just all over. >> we just have to be vigilant and what we're doing to keep also say just before 5 o'clock in the morning hours after police launched their investigation into the double homicide, officers responded to another shooting victim who died on the 1200 block of 18th avenue. >> a second person who showed up at a hospital was reported injured from the same shooting. they were killed right shot at a time as an office. >> yeah. and drove down on the and that's the way. russian founded the christopher le vell jones foundation after her late was gunned down in 2010. she is also chair of the gun violence, a community for the oakland violence prevention coalition. >> she advocated for mayor sheng thao to re-hire former chief leronne armstrong after she fired him earlier this year for mishandling police misconduct investigations. she believes interim police chief darren allison is doing the best he can to address violent crimes bu

like myself, like stephanie grisham and alyssa farah griffin to be surrounded him to give him good solid advice. what i'm most worried about and what we saw at the end of his administration was that he stopped listening to people who weren't telling him what he wanted to hear, and he started listening to people who are feeding into his worst instincts. that is my worry as well if he were to ever win the presidency again, that the folks will be surrounding him would not be people of good character. i think a lot of people are sticking by his side aren't doing so in the best interest of our country. i think they're doing so in the best interest of their own careers. >> sarah matthews, great to talk to, you thank so much for being with us tonight. >> thank you. >> a new flood of evidence and google beach serial killer's case including it all the reportedly found in the suspect's house, and hundreds of gun. we'll break down everything we learn today about -- and why police thought he was getting ready to strike again. try killing bugs the worry-free way. not the other way. zevo traps use lig

brenda grisham is the executive director of the christopher le vell churns foundation named after her late son who was gunned down in 2010 when she has spoken with people connected to one of today's killings. they were killed right outside run as an office. >> yeah. >> and drove down on the and that's the way. is also chair of the gun violence subcommittee for the oakland violence prevention coalition. she advocated for mayor sheng thao to rehire former chief leronne armstrong. >> after she fired him earlier this year for mishandling police misconduct investigations. she believes interim police chief darren allison is doing the best he can to address violent crimes but says the city and police force are struggling without a permanent top cop. everybody needs a permanent later. >> answer must find there. there's been there think about 27 he's a good guy, but they need somebody permanent in order to just bring everything together. so they're suffering. >> in a way to crime and the violence in the city of open is out of control. it is never been this bad today. oakland police reported 4

brenda grisham is the executive director of the christopher le vell churns foundation named after her late son who was gunned down in 2010 when she has spoken with people connected to one of today's killings. they were killed right outside run as an office. yeah. >> and drove down on the and that's the way of the court is also chair of the gun violence subcommittee for the oakland violence prevention coalition. she advocated for mayor sheng thao to rehire former chief leronne armstrong. >> after she fired him earlier this year for mishandling police misconduct investigations. she believes interim police chief darren allison is doing the best he can to address violent crimes but says the city and police force are struggling without a permanent top cop. everybody needs a permanent later. >> answer must find there. there's been there think about 27 he's a good guy, but they need somebody permanent in order to just bring everything together. so they're suffering. >> in a way to crime and the violence in the city of open is out of control. it is never been this bad today. oakland police re

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>> it is starting to read like a john grisham novel. his attorney has the same ethics standards as he does. i think this is a clear case for disbarment of the attorney. if the judge lets him off on this, it falls in line with everything else that has been happening. this is egregious. this cannot stand. >> is the plea deal in jeopardy? >> i think the timing of the plea deal is in jeopardy. i would not be surprised if the judge put off the sentencing. odds are we will not see a sentencing tomorrow. the hunter team obviously feared what was going to go in front of the judge in terms of the whistle-blower information to the point they were willing to do what they did. this case is changing every day. >> jesse: the house is moving towards an impeachment inquiry that gives them supercharge subpoena powers. we are looking at a mountain of evidence to charge with racketeering and money laundering? >> we went to an indictment on a lot less than this. there should be a parade of witnesses going into a grand jury or there should have been a parad

methane lease present a host of issues and can impact the local economy but leaders like governor lujan grisham avenue instituted increases. our teams have worked very closely. we can identify and stop these dangerous leaks. wyoming recently received this. we will continue to learn from the examples they set on effective deployment. we have appreciated the leadership in the state of colorado i working to craft a successful green schoolbus program. apollo has launched a $65 million clean schoolbus program that serves as a model for how to effectively implement a program on a national scale. we have $5 million to electrify our yellow school buses across the country. how leadership will be instrumental in up into design those programs. these are only a few samples of how we can lean on each other to make impactful change across an array of issues. there is no doubt we will have differences. there is no doubt there were significant challenges facing our world. we are relying on partners to work together. i am incredibly proud of the work we have done and very proud of the partnerships that we force

. >> former staff like stephanie grisham say he did it. trump himself is heard on tape bragging about it. now the former cia director is speaking out about the danger trump posed to national security. >>> also, we're learning more able rich billionaires that justice clarence thomas has been palling around with. what he received from them and what he reportedly gave in return. >>> george santos is comparing himself to rosa parks. >>> the republican in charge of oklahoma schools says the tulsa race massacre wasn't about race at all. i wish i were making that up. >>> we begin with a twice indicted ex president who poses a national security risk unlike any this country has ever faced. don't just take it from me. here's a warning from michael hayden, the former director of the cia and national security agency who served under presidents bill clinton, george w. bush and barack obama. >> the president is supposed to keep our secrets secure, not show our secrets off. he had many top secret documents at mar-a-lago for more than a year. you don't kn

. >> advocate brenda grisham lost her son to gun violence in 2010. she believes crime in oakland is reaching boiling point. >> i was going to have a night out this week coming up and i canceled is because in the area i am in there was a shooting, a murder, and a drive-by in less than a week. >> a person was wounded at a shooting at 19th and broadway. they are looking for suspects. >> violence is growing in our communities and we have to work to ensure the proper resources are available. >> you do not know what the pain and what we have been through. >> this week emotions high at a public safety meeting thursday in oakland. the issue on everyone's mind is rising crime. one day after the oakland chapter of the naacp penned a letter asking for a stay at of -- state of emergency, the state chapter released this letter doubling down on the call because "our community members are in danger." according to the opd since january 1 20 23, violent crime is up 15% over the same timeframe last year. property crime has increased 28%. homicides so far in 2023 are d

. >> i heard two different theories as to why he had the documents, one from stephanie grisham who saidmine and he's like a child with a toy. and one from michael cohen he thought trump had the documents because he wanted to use them to further his own power or financial well being in some way. why do you think he held onto the documents and went to such lengths to stop them, prevent them from being turned over to the government? >> yeah, look, i think both theories could be true and likely are true to some extent. >> i was surprised that esper said that because the idea he would use the secrets to further his own power or financial well being is a shocking thing for him to think. what do you think? >> i think it was purely ego. he could not and still could not to this day deal with the fact he's the only person outside of delaware to lose to joe biden. they're in new jersey now if he still had them because they go on summer vacation with him. he wanted to continue to pretend he was president and show these things to people and say look what i still have, know. >> it's part of people te

speaking to msnbc over the weekend, stephanie grisham was asked about the recently leaked audiotape whereull out classified material during a 2021 meeting with journalists. take a look. >> is it plausible trump was showing classified documents to people in private meetings? >> the short answer is yes. i watched him show documents to people at mar-a-lago at the dining room patio. he has no respect for classified information. never did. i believe also there's a portion of that audio where he says this is off the record. i know donald trump. he knows the rules of reporters and he knows if it needs to be off the record, they can't talk about it. so he was covering himself in that regard. >> joining us now is "washington post" campaign reporter dylan wells. in your latest reporting for the "washington post," you report on the shifts by ron desantis to national policies starting with the southern border. what is his plan and how is it different from donald trump's? >> florida governor ron desantis' plan is quite similar to donald trump's plan for the border. continuing to build the wall, ending

. >> barr, on that point, trump's former white house press secretary stephanie grisham was on with myague alex witt yesterday. and she had something interesting to say about how trump treated classified documents. >> you know donald trump, is it blob of trump was showing classified documents to people in private meetings? >> the answer is yes. i watch him show documents to people at mar-a-lago on the dining room patio. so, he has no respect for classified information, never did. i just want to say to your viewers, i don't think people understand how hard it is to get your classified permissions. i remember when i was going through it to get mine, i was held up because of a 13 dollar kinder care bill that i did not know about. so, i couldn't be -- >> what! >> they go through everything about it, and it's very difficult to get a security clearance. and i think people, you know, they missed that in the weeds obviously. but showing it to people who have gone through the extreme vetting to get a clearance is a disservice to the country but it also in dangerous people potentially. >> barr,

here's former white house press secretary stephanie grisham. >> look. you know donald trump. is it plausible trump was showing classified documents to people in private meetings? >> the short answer is yes. i watched him show documents to people at mar-a-lago on the dining room patio, so he has no respect for classified information. never did. >> now, taylor and graham's story should hardly come as a shock. the ex president has a storied history of sharing sensitive information. perhaps the most infamous example, 2017 oval office meeting between trump and russian foreign minister sergei lavrov, and russian ambassador sergei kyslyak. during that meeting, trump reportedly revealed highly classified information to his costs. information that was obtained via intelligence sharing information with another country. later revealed to be israel. then there's this tweet from trump in august 2019. the then president sent out a detailed aerial image of an iranian launchpad that experts at the time described as quote, almost certainly highly classified. i could go on and on about other e

it goes all the way back to the beginning days of his presidency, whether it's what stephanie grishamar-a-lago, whether it's the meeting about trump disclosing highly classified investigation to sergey lavrov and russian ambassador kislyak in the same meeting where he bragged that he fired jim comey, tweeting satellite images of a failed iranian missile test, trump routinely mishandled classified information. as the president he had broad authority to handle it however recklessly he wanted to. it was certainly damaging to national security when he did so. but what's clear is the moment he was no longer president, a, he no longer had authority to have that classified information, and, b, certainly didn't have the authority to share it with anyone. and in fact, if he did, that constituted a federal crime. what's important is we see this pattern of behavior of an absolute disrespect for the national security of the united states, for the national security professionals that gather intelligence on a day in, day out basis, and for all of those people around the world who literally put thei

last week stephanie grisham saw trump show off documents to people at mar-a-lago.mith, i would put sarah huckabee and john bolton in the grand jury to get them to testify under oath and to prevent them from showing up as defense witnesses at trump's trial. >> and paul, "the new york times" is reporting that former chief of staff john kelly said in a sworn statement that trump discussed having the irs and other agencies investigate two fbi officials involved in the investigation into potential ties between trump's campaign and russia. do you see any legal implications to this? >> so jose, kelly says he doesn't know whether trump actually tried to order the fbi to investigate these officials and that provides some wiggle room for trump if this were to turn into an investigation. as far as we know there's no official inquiry. it's weird that james comey and andrew mccabe were subject to irs audits when then president trump was railing against them, and of course trump was successful in getting doj to name a special counsel to investigate the fbi's role in the 2016 cam

but here's former white house press secretary stephanie grisham with my colleague alex witt in the last >> i watched him show documents to people at mar-a-lago at the dining room patio. he has no respect for classified information, never. did very difficult to get a security clearance. i think people miss in the weeds possibly was showing it to people who haven't gone through the extreme vetting that you go through to get a clearance. it's a disservice to the country but it puts people in danger potentially. >> my apologies that was yesterday not last hour. danny, can statements like that be used by the prosecution to show a pattern as far as showing of classified documents? >> yes, i see this as a common pattern with white collar criminal defendants. who are often very intelligent people. but their rationale is as long as i can articulate a defense. trump saying, hey you may have heard a piece of paper, i maybe be talking about that paper but it's imaginary. i'm talking hypothetically. the paper moving around with something else. they think that as long as they can articulate that alte

meanwhile, harry, when you listen to people like stephanie grisham, who worked very closely with trumpdo you get the sense that there may be more witnesses available than doj actually needs to prove its cases? >> for sure. those seven pictures that you have behind, you, alex you have to imagine that there is a white board in special counsel jack smith's office with more 70 or more. we just get what we get. it's only pieces of a much larger puzzle that smith is absolutely looking at. i do want to highlight the two on the right though, because that really shows the prosecutorial engines are rubbing a full speed. you call those voluntary interviews. what really happened in both cases as those two men ran into the department of justice, maybe to light, to say, let me tell you, will you listen to, i will offer my story in the hope that you will give me a better deal. they've learned, especially from row, and that his deputy was already and they're fasten up. giuliani knows the same thing. it's a strong indication that smith is near the sort of circle just around trump. one more quick point,

joining me now, stephanie grisham from the white house press secretary, and communications director underhor of i'll take your questions now what i saw at the trump white house. welcome stuff, good to see you what can you tell us about susie wildes? have you crossed paths with her, do you think she could end up being a star witness? >> yes i have crossed paths with her, she is pretty well-known in political circles, in fact she used to work for ron desantis, until they had a falling out. so i know trump really needs her in the position that she's, and because desantis is his biggest competition at this moment. if it's true, he showed her a classified document. that is going to obviously put her in a very awkward position. it has not been confirmed, i guess, that it's her yet. i do believe, you know, i'm sure people all in the trump world right now we're working hard to figure out if it's. her asking her questions. it will just put her in an awkward position i'm interested to see how it will play out ultimately, because he is not trusting many people right now. >> yes absolutely, you make

would give up my day job if i produce books that quickly and a writer, you know, i don't have john grishamlike talents where i can amazing books in a short amount time but there is so i'd say three things to answer that one is justice breyer said sat next to him for 28 years when these allegations came out. he said he's a person of integrity. i've never seen him do anything underhanded, never heard him say anything underhand. the second thing i would say is justice sotomayor also, as i quote my book, says, he's a man, cares deeply about people and the institution. and why do those matter? why does that second point matter? because as i recount in the beginning he cares. homeless people who befriends homeless who befriends people in the rv parking lots. but he also befriends all of the people meets even his critics who meet him, becomes friends with him. so one story recently came out how he was a member of the horatio alger association. i admit my ignorance i had not and i'm embarrassed to have not heard of that. but i read recounting of it that have benefited something. like 31000 to 3500

let's go to stephanie grisham, former trump white house press secretary.le uncovered, you've heard from trump over and over over the years, right, this obsession with hillary clinton and the server and the lock her up, it was the chant of his campaign, but it all takes on new meaning now. >> yeah, you're right, erin. thanks for having me, by the way. it was as interesting as i was listening to those clips, i was considering who was the audience that trump was talking to when he was talking about hillary clinton? it was when he was running for office. he was talking to people he wanted to vote for him. and it just hit me literally three seconds ago. the people who are running against trump should be doing this exact same thing. they should be using his own words but against him and getting that very audience to understand the hypocrisy and also the deep amount of trouble that he's in right now with all of the investigations, but, you know, aside from chris christie and a little bit from will hurd, you have not heard from any other republican candidates real

. >>> some authors are perfect matches for their subject matter: john grisham was once a trial lawyeremerged as one of the world's top-selling writers -- and darling of hollywood developers -- by venturing into unknown worlds, abandoning his comfort zone. the unlikely adventures of david grann. his latest book "the wager," tells of british castaways from the 1740s. it's an open-water quest that becomes a saga of shipwreck, anarchy, betrayal, and murder. imagine "mutiny on the bounty" meets "lord of the flies" -- except every word of it really happened. as we first told you in april, grann's success comes, yes, from meticulous reporting and vivid writing, but also from how he puts the pieces together. >> you talk about structuring these stories as a puzzle. >> yes. >> is there only one way to solve this puzzle? >> [ laughter ] well, i -- i'm very weird about this. i do always think there is some kind of idyllic form of a story, like, some, like, perfect, pristine, lost city that you're trying to find and get to. >> if you were going to structure the david grann story, what would you su

>> it's starting to read like a grisham novel in it is st. nv apparently, his attorneys have about the same ethics standardsa as he does. and as you pointed out irdn your monologue, i think this is a clear case for disbarment of the attorney. if the judge lets him off on this, that justudge let falln line with everything, everything else that's been happening in the hunter biden casen li. but this is egregious, jesse, in this this can't stand. is the plea deal now in jeopardy after this phony phone call? i think the timing of the plea deal is probably in jeopardy. i would not be surprised at all if the judge put offi woul the sentencing. in fact, i think the odds arf te that that we won't see a sentencing tomorrow. they obviously the hunter teamol obviously feared what was going to go in front o f the judge in terms o terms of the whistleblower information to the point wherefh they're willing to do what they did. so, you know, that means that sh dide that they had reason to believe she would take it into consideration. so i think this case. i

i am passionate about an episode with governor grisham of new mexico.s a former health secretary at the state level, now the governor of the state. every year, we pay our taxes. it is the most universal active citizenship on a daily basis, more so than voting, which happens every two or four years. when we do that, it is a pact, but it is part of the underpinnings of civil society that we are going to contribute to schools, even if we may not have children. or we will contribute to pipelines that may not feed clean water into our homes, but our neighbors home down the road. in general, there is a perception that government is not looking out for us. who is looking out for us? maybe our congressperson, who has favorability in the district, but not the senator or neighboring congresspeople. i asked the governor why there was not an app, is easily accessible as c-span or bloomberg, where you could see expenditures at the municipal, state and federal level and understand where they are going towards, whether it is ensuring public safety is sound with fire f

governor eric holcomb of indiana, governor chris sununu of the new have you, governor michelle lujan grisham of new mexico, governor kathy hochul of new york, governor roy cooper of the great state of north carolina, and governor kevin stitt of oklahoma. let's hear it for the executive committee. [applause] so congratulations to all, and i would love to ask my successor spencer cox to come on up and join me if you would not mind. [applause] >> the ceremonial passing of the gavel, india says governor spencer cox -- and it says -- national conference association. the most famous association, -- >> very clever name. >> 2023-2024. 2023-2024. let's hear it for our chair. congratulations. >> thank you so much. [applause] >> thank you bill. i will say phil murphy and his amazing wife they leave incredible shoes to fill. and and a possible suit to wear. you won't see me wearing the same suit but hope that i i cn try to fill those shoes. >> thank you. thank you my friend. thank you. [applause] >> ladies and gentlemen, thank you for being here this morning, the hardy who have made it to the end of the

stephanie grisham was on this network talking about things in mar-a-lago, war plans, eating chocolatemple after example, a years-long pattern of his reckless disregard for state secrets. >> yeah. i'm not surprised to hear of this one. again, you know, sometimes i think we question what his motives were. sometimes it looks like it's just bravado, look what i have access to, but no matter what his motive, you know, it's absolutely destructive to national security. it shows that he's actually vulnerable to being pressured into giving over information because he's so cal louse and cavalier with it. you indicated instances he wanted to be sure he's speaking to other leaders without witnesses there, which makes you wonder what he might want to share with them. of course we know he has chosen in a very public way, he chose putin over his own intelligence community, you know, with respect to the investigation into any coordination between russia and his campaign in 2016. so i think all of these examples not only lead up to just showing carelessness and cavalier attitude toward national securi

what did you make of stephanie grisham's statement that she saw trump showing people classified documentsr-a-lago. >> i think it's really clear and credible. and look, it's interesting, alicia, because to show documents that are classified is a whole different level of crime under the espionage act. communication is enough. you don't have to turn it over. if you actually show it to them. however, the indictment in paragraph 6 makes a big deal about those two incidents as you said in new jersey. but they don't charge it. the same thing here. i think it's quite possible that they don't quite have this beyond a reasonable doubt. and yet it's sort of like danya was just saying about the corroboration of what kind of guy he is. whether or not they have the witnesses who can actually say i saw it exactly and this is what it said, it showed his absolute indifference to the national interest, his willingness to do it. that is a fair game for the u.s. to use and from the indictment, we know they already will. will there be a separate charge of actual dissemination? so far we haven't seen it. and i