so, today, abby grossberg lega team played parts of two o those recordings in court. and after hearing them, th judge decided to sanction fo news for withholding evidence. so, if dominion wants to dominion could conduct mor depositions on fox news dime judges orders. we don't know if dominion is actually going to do that, these tapes were explosive enough that the judge literall sanctioned fox news for no sharing them abby grossberg and her legal team have let us have thes recordings, tonight. so, without further ado, thi is rudy giuliani and fox new host, maria bartiromo, talking off air on november 8th, 2020. off air, mr. giuliani seem pretty candid about the fact that he has no evidence that there is anything wrong with dominion voting machines >> i'm going to be asking yo for as much evidence as you ca tell us about these lawsuits whatever you can tell us i terms of evidence, would b really helpful okay, great. >> i can tell you exactly what we have. >> perfect >> and what about the software this dominion software >> that's a little harder. >> seems troubling to t

grossberg's allegations likely played a bigger role in carlson's departure than the network's recent $787 million settlement with dominion voting systems, says npr media critic eric dagens. >> those kinds of claims seem to be something that fox moves very quickly to deal with as opposed to other types of infractions. >> reporter: and i spoke to grossberg's attorney today. she said they have not determined a dollar amount when it comes to the lawsuits filed against fox. and despite grossberg's claims that she was bullied, mocked, and even asked to spy on a co-worker, she says she also wants an apology. fox news has yet to comment. norah. >> jericka duncan, thank you. >>> well, tonight a line of severe weather is moving through the southern plains with texas in the bull's-eye. for more, let's bring in meteorologist mike bettes from our partners at the weather channel. good evening, mike. >> norah, good evening. we're anticipating severe thunderstorms once again across the southern plains right through the evening. in particular, oklahoma and texas. the threats likely to be high winds,

grossberg's. she's the one who asks the questions about the voting machines because she organized that interview in order to get to the bought of what the truth was, because she was worried ms. bartiromo was not going too far in what she was producing. so that story never came out what the fox news attorneys tried to get ms. grossberg to say during her deposition is that nothing ever fell between the cracks at fox news in fact, ms. bartiromo we argue because they were both women and they were subjected to a chauvinistic attitude, they were characterized as being in a bubble and able to go wild and ms. bartiromo was called all sorts of unflattering names by a number of the male executives at fox news but that show which was at the time the number one rated show on weekends, ms. bartiromo's weekend show not only fox news but all of fox had exactly one staff member, ms. grossberg. and although ms. grossberg repeatedly asked for additional support so she could fully vet all of the counter allegations

and so miss grossberg did not tell us that. uh and so miss grossberg did not tell us that. miss grossberg did not say that there were responsible, responsive audio recordings from that relevant time period. and so that was not a thing that we knew to look for until the radish she came. which mr gross were provided on march the 20th . so i'll tell you why that is demonstrably false. and frankly , it's the kind of word salad that gives lawyers a bad name. it may be technically true that miss grossberg did not say to the fox attorneys when she handed over both devices twice. in preparation for her coerced testimony that there are recordings here from the relevant time period of x or y. that may be true, but miss grossberg will swear under oath and will testify if so called that, she specifically said to the fox attorneys that and this was in the context of them asking her. what are these apps? there was this one signal app that she had she had, you know, erased for few days because she never used it and then restored good. so she they were going through the apps on her on her

grossberg's allegations likely played a bigger role in carlson's departure than the network's recentoting systems, says npr media critic eric deggans. >> those kinds of claims seem to be something that fox moves very quickly to deal with, as opposed to other types of infractions. >> reporter: and despite grossberg's claims of being bullied, mocked, and even asked to spy on a coworker, she says she wants an apology. but a fox news spokesperson said her case is baseless and riddled with false allegations. norah? >> norah: jericka duncan, thank you. well, tonight, a line of severe weather is moving through the southern plains, with texas in the bull's-eye. for more, let's bring in meteorologist mike bettes from our partners at the weather channel. good evening, mike. >> norah, good evening. we are anticipating severe thunderstorms once again across the southern plains right through the evening, in particular oklahoma and texas. likely to be high winds, tornadoes, and hail bigger than ping-pong balls. these are the areas to watch, from west texas back down toward austin, and houston. tom

and despite grossberg's claims that she was bullied, mocked, and even asked to spy on a coworker, she an apology. fox news has yet to comment. norah? >> norah: jericka duncan, thank you. well, tonight, a line of severe weather is moving through the southern plains, with texas in the bull's-eye. for more, let's bring in meteorologist mike bettes from our partners at the weather channel. good evening, mike. >> norah, good evening. anticipating severe sub thunderstorms once again across the southern plains into the evening. in particular oklahoma and texas. likely to be high winds, tornadoes, and hail bigger than ping-pong balls. these are the areas to watch, from west texas back down toward austin, and houston. tomorrow, dallas and fort worth in the mix. large hail once again an issue. flooding rain across oklahoma, including right in oklahoma city. some of those storms could produce a torrential downpour is here and some of those storms then move into louisiana, mississippi, and alabama as we go late in the wheat from a prolonged event of rain brings chances for flooding. that can be t

one example of such a person's abby grossberg, the former hea booking producer for tucke carlson, and before that senio producer for maria bartiromo last month, grossberg file suit against fox news, allegin they run a hostile wor environment that, quote, sub subjugate women based on file, sexist stereotypes was abby grossberg fired fro her position shortly after filing that lawsuit. earlier today, she spoke m colleague nicole wallace and describe the miramichi says sh was subjected to when she firs joined tucker carlson's team last year. >> i show up, first day of work, and i know that this is popular one -- it's been widely publicized -- there are literally pictures like, this big, of nancy pelos in a bathing suit in europ plastered all over there was even one on my computer screen for th temporary computer i had t use. and i had to take it down, jus to work. within a few days i was called into - office with alison casscoe, wh is a senior producer as well and asked if laureate wa having an affair with kevi mccarthy i was shocked. i could not even believe it. i was floored. >> now, ab

grossberg saying fox lawyers were coercing or intimidating and uncertain her testimony would end up beingof the intimidating and confusing coaching i want to make sure you know what fox says about this as well they respond her allegations in this case are baseless and that she had, quote, no bearing on the settlement so here we are in the middle of all this the truth and the lies, the people who knew better, the people who got up after those now convicted seditionists storm your capitol to steal your vote. and some of these politicians and some of these folks in the media -- not all -- we'll always go precisely like we did tonight, but some of them responded by that by doubling down and abusing their lies and power. it's about a whole lot more than that our next guest live on "the beat" will speak to this with more information than just about anyone out there abby grossberg's lawyer is here when we're back in 60 seconds. l. ♪ tensions... were high. luckily, replacement costumes were shipped with fedex. which means mr. harvey... could picture the perfect night. ♪ fedex can help you be read

grossberg said in the lawsuit naming mr.lson that male producer regularly used vulgarities to describe women and frequently made anti-semitic jokes. fox news says, quote, we'll continue to vigorously defend fox against ms. grossberg's legal claims which are riddled with false allegations that's where we begin. joining us is former fox news producer abby grossberg. she's suing tucker carlson and other fox executives for promoting a hostile and discriminatory work environment while workin tucker carlson's show how you doing? >> good. >> yeah? >> it's strange. it's been a really strange, crazy ride yesterday felt like a "twilight zone" episode. >> why >> i heard the news. i was starting to get texts from friends. i thought maybe it was the "60 minutes" they were talking about it they said, no, he's fired. it was -- are you sure obviously, you know, i'm at the center of a lot of this and it felt surreal and there were a lot of mixed emotions that went through my head. there were feelings, like, yes and then also the reality that

grossberg's suit.f the connective tissue between the allegations in dominion and in smartmatic reside with ms. grossberg's civil conspiracy claims. she is pretty much at the center of the puzzle and connects those two cases quite nicely, also connects, by the way, through the recordings that we've already released, the upper echelons of fox news management with what was going on on the ground as they sought with the republican party and republican operatives to perpetrate the big lie which eventually turned into the big grift. we have tapes to that effect. >> we will continue to follow the story for sure. gerri filippatos thank you. >> thank you very much. >>> cnn announcing it has parted ways with long time host don lemon. the statement from ceo chris l lits saying done will forever be part of the cnn family and we thank him for his contributions over the past 17 years. we wish him well and will be cheering him on in his future endeavors. >>> up next, we're getting new information into the situation r

grossberg claims she was pressured to give misleading comments in the dominion case.nbc she has recordings from the devices and claims dominion said they didn't have them. >> i had several recordings that i'm still going through that we recovered from all of the phones. there are 90. that we have. >> 90 recordings, not long after that her attorneys speaking on msnbc said that jack smith, the special counsel, launched the recordings. fox spokesperson previously said that grossberg's lawsuits are riddled with false allegations against the network and our employees. we want to get perspective on this and what it means for broader media landscape without tucker carlson in it. david, good to have you on. do you have a sense of how much of a role if any abby grossberg's allegations may have played in tucker carlson's o ouster. is it clear why he was fired? >> it's not clear why he was fired. i think really this story has such large cultural reverberations for it that we should be careful. we shouldn't say this is why it happened. there's been so much of that, anderson, in t

grossberg's legal claims are unmeritorious and riddled with legale -- as you know, the client, ms.ssberg did speak to msnbc today to my colleague nicolle wallace. many people saw that recently. way tonight play a part. >> have you been contacted by smartmatic >> yes. >> and you've shared all the recordings with them >> i have been subpoenaed. we haven't shared anything. >> that goes to how there's so much open pressure but for folks who may not have seen that entire interview and you have her speaking out, but mr. carlson abruptly removed from fox, what is it you want to convoy through this case to the public and what exactly was done wrong to her from a legal perspective? >> thank you, ari. i'll be as brief as i can -- i think the most important thing to understand about ms. grossberg's case, that it's a case that really speaks to what goes on when you have the natural power imbalance that occurs in the workplace, always employers have greater power over employees that's natural but when that power imbalance is nuclearized and weaponized by this malicious intent to really use peop

fox news has denied the allegations that abby grossberg has made in her lawsuit. sunlen serfaty, cnn, washington. >>> and four men who escaped from a jail in mississippi last year has been captured in texas. officials say that i he was taken into custody in spring valley, texas after being spotted there on sunday. >> wednesday mississippi police confirmed the body of escapee dylan harrington was found in a burned out house after stand out with police. they believe harrington killed a pastor and stole his truck. meanwhile the manhunt continues for the other two inmates who escaped last saturday casey grayson and cory harrison. >>> new trading day gets under way in the u.s. in just over five hours time and here is where things are looking right now. and european markets are up and running and also not a particularly positive picture, a bit more mixed. and here is how asia faired today. all looking up. >>> wall street is celebrating its best day since january. the dow gained 525 points thanks to a slew of strong earnings reports. investors were also encouraged by new

carlson's exit is related to the discrimination lawsuit filed by abby grossberg, the producer filed by network last month. murdoch is said to be concerned over carler's coverage of the january 6th insurrection at the u.s. capitol the ouster of top fox news anchor tucker carlson is where we begin today with some of our favorite reporters and friends new york times political reporters jeremy peters and nick contessori are here. both have written extensively about tucker carlson and fox news including carlson's conspiracies at the network. and former senator claire mccaskill is back, lucky for us, all msnbc contributors jeremy peters, i start with you. jeremy, you have the - >> oh. this is -- >> you're speechless, right? >> an extraordinary development. >> it is shocking. look, let's start here instead it is a shocking thing in our world that anybody that we cover and that also covers this moment has been fired it is extra shocking when that person happens to be literally the most-watched person at the most controversial network if you sort of had put it on a bingo card tucker carlson get

but they said that their lawsuit provides a road map for smartmatic abby grossberg is the star guide that road map. >> talk about your case. lay out what the basis of your lawsuit is, because it does feel like she did describe a workplace environment for women was a nightmare. but that's something fox has settled lots of lawsuits the environment women are forced to work there the mistreatment of her anchor and pushing her to lie talk about your lawsuit and how you expect that to play out. >> sure. i mean, let me just say one thing that ties into the answer i'm going to give you which is that one of the problems that we have with the fact that at the end of the day fox didn't apologize, fox didn't acknowledge anything in the dominion settlement, fox has a propensity to pay large s, theno what it was doing. to our lawsuit, going back to the ails era, we know that fox settled cases sounding sexual harassment, gender discrimination, et cetera in the 2015, 2016 to the tune of hundreds of millions of dollars and ultimately first that was -- those were private but ultimately they became pub

of course, there is a long history of toxicity that grossberg describes at the network.016, you migh remember host gretchen carlson sued longtime fox ceo, roger ambles, for sexual harassment. that kicked off a cascade of similar accusations that ultimately led to ailes' resignation. now, gretchen carlson is speaking out about tucker' firing, writing in an opinio piece to the daily beast it's, quote, meaningless without rea change at fox news and gretche carlson, former fox news anchor, who opened the floodgates in the fight to expose harassment at the network, joins me now cofounder of the organizatio of - good to have you here. >> thanks for having me, chris >> well, what do you think o all of this? >> what's happened in the last couple minutes first of all, let me be clea that there is no relatio between tucker carlson and gretchen carlson >> it's funny, i should've noted that in my copy, but yes zero >> i get that all the time o twitter. >> an accident >> very quick to say absolutel not. look, i'm not surprised a hall of what has transpired here, but i think it's inte

certainly the grossberg lawsuit.r allegedly telling her to mislead the dominion lawyers, one for alleged gender discrimination. and let's talk about that second one for a moment. her lawyer told nicole wallace that grossberg has a quote, uniquely strong case based on the evidence that has been collected. based on what you've heard or seen, or read so far, what is your assessment of these cases? >> ayman, i'll go back to the fact that she said that she's got 90 recordings. am i guess is she didn't start recording on day one. those are just the recordings. they didn't say anything but the statements or the rest of the culture that they're spreading their. my thought is that based on what we've seen so far, they realized hey, we have to shut this down as soon as we can, because here's the way that companies tend to look at these cases, and i've worked on a lot of these cases. it comes down to basic business decisions. is it better to try to get this resolved early, because normally the fallout in terms the way things lo

. >> abby grossberg, her attorney, jerry, they have breaking news on msnbc this week.mer manhattan district attorney. now professor at new york law school. okay rebecca, before we get into the details of what might be in these recordings, why would one set of audiotapes lead to a very different criminal investigations? >> well, there are some pretty explosive allegations in that complaint, alex. some of them claiming that fox news lawyers were in fact coaching, bullying, miss grossberg to lie and take the fall for what was in fact the involvement of fox news. some of that could be relevant to some of the inquiries into january 6th. i think that has a potential relevance to a lot of different investigations. of course, there is a great deal of her allegations that have to do with workplace harassment that probably are less important to those other investigators. >> so, grossberg is suing fox news and she claims that she has found 90 audio recordings from her time as a producer on the show and tucker carlson. on one tape, ted cruz can be her talking about certification a

times" reporter steve battaglio said the grossberg litigation played a role in carlson's departure. >that means more court testimony, more depositions, more bad publicity, and possibly another big check. i think they want to avoid that and one way to do it was to start with getting rid of tucker. >> reporter: nbc news has not confirmed the reporting. beyond grossberg's suit, text messages revealed through the now settled litigation with dominion voting systems expresses -- exposed carlson's frustration with management. in days following the election, audience numbers dropped more than a third, in part because fox called the state of arizona for joe biden. according to court documents, carlson texted we worked really hard to build what we have those expletives are destroying our credibility. it enrages me. now less than three years later, carlson is out of a job. >> they have lost big names before they've replaced them, and they haven't missed a beat in the ratings. >> reporter: changing an anchor does not necessarily mean changing the network stephanie gosk, nbc news, new york >>> jus

that's the critical analysis. >> so grossberg as a witness will be on the stand will she be asked tocame to be a witness for dominion and not fox, katie? >> no. she'll be asked what was your role at fox. what did you do? she's an insider that's always when you're a juror, you always want to hear from the people or person who are insiders that's like when we talk about michael cohen, you know what, we want to know what was really going on behind closed doors i don't know how much more closed door you can get by having abby grossberg who worked with maria bart iromo. when she felt the coercion that she stalock step she'll just be asked about that, but that really is important she's not an outis seider. she's not a stranger albeit if you're fox lawyers on cross, you're like you're a disgruntled former employee, aren't you these were not secret recordings everybody knew at maria's show that she was doing these shows and that's why the fact that they were just turned over internally is the impactful part of this whole trial process. >> jim, in the sort of framework of your most recent rep

we also know that abby grossberg, one of his senior producers who was fired after she claimed that itas a toxic work environment with gender discrimination, she filed a lawsuit against fox news and tucker carlson alleging the problems on his show that her lawyers say he was aware of. so there's a lot that came out in sort of the bath water, if you will, that may not be as specifically an election conspiracy theory, but came to light in this dominion lawsuit again, we don't have reporting exactly where this ousting is coming from, but the timing, as you said, incredibly curious. >> so dylan, he said i'll see you on monday on his friday show, and there have been reports from "the guardian" that they were promoting his show as early as this morning, promoting an interview he was going to do with the gop presidential candidate. how much do you know so far about how long this has been in the works? >> sure, well, as far as tucker carlson is concerned, he learned about it this morning. so this came out of nowhere for him. i think it's right to look at what's happened with dpliominio. to say

. >> reporter: former fox news producer abby grossberg brought those recordings to light, though fox argues it provided information when we first learned it grossberg is also suing the network, telling nbc's cynthia mcfadden her deposition for the fox dominion case was coerced. fox calling her lawsuit without merit. >> and i realized the answer that they wanted me to say were putting me in a very vulnerable position to be the company's scapegoat. >> reporter: the high-stakes trial is expected to run for six weeks. some of fox's biggest names from rupert murdoch to popular hosts are expected to take the stand lester >>>> emilie ikikeda here in new y york, thanknk you. >>> in 60 0 seconds, a a investigatation. a viewewer tells u us how hehe believes s his identityty is being g used to fueuel illegal l work inin slaughtererhouses >>> we're back now with an nbc news investigation linking stolen identities to illegal work in slaughterhouses. julia ainsley speaks to a "nightly" viewer now sharing his identity theft nightmare, one he believes is linked to the scheme. >> reporter: felipe gar

times, quote, carlson's exit is related to a discriminatio lawsuit filed by abby grossberg. the producer fired by th network last month carlson senior executive producer justin willis also ha been terminated. the times also reported that murdaugh was really concerne about carlson's coverage of th january 6th attack, and also carlson's dismissal may be linked to the landmark 787 million dollar defamatio settlement with dominion votin systems. the president reports quot carson's comments about fo colleagues partly revealed the dominion case played a role in his departure. fox said carlson's final sho aired friday which was a surprise to the anchor who signed off with a promise to return tonight nbc has reached out to tucke carlson for comment. we have not heard back yet let's bring in right now msnbc and nbc news national affair analyst john heilemann he's also the host and executive producer o showtime's the circus. john, explain for us, if you will, we were talking before why is this one of the mor significant days in cable news history? >> i find it hard to think certainly

abby grossberg has 90 recordings, i think we've heard three.of this was about not -- the other thing, and this is so sort of behind the curtain, but our viewers have sort of lived through seven years of covering trump and fox and so i want to have this conversation otter is a program that people use when they're doing a lot of interviewing, i don't know if either of you use it in your work, but she says to her lawyers, we did our pre interviews on otter and she she takes her phone and she says, go get it they do nothing. i mean, how many -- and, again, i don't know the pre interview practices of other eps at the network or other people recorded things, but i think this looming question of discovery that wasn't, i guess i will just -- to katie's point i always wonder how much thatplayed into the settlement, jim. >> look, i do not have reporting that specifically says that played into the settlement, however, it's kind of part of a stew that did play into the settlement which was that fox had a trial kept getting cross wise -- their lawyers kept

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and as she mentioned, i am joined now by the attorney for abby grossberg. abby of course is a former booker for tucker carlson's show and other executives, network talent, maria bartiromo, among them. she is suing fox. she claim it's was a toxic environment at his show and that the network pressured her into giving pressing testimony in the dominion case. she was going to testify for dominion. i really appreciate your time. trying to understand what happened here. let me just start with the very basic. are you hearing anything about whether the claims or the evidence that your client presented to fox news, phone calls, whatever it may be, played a role in tucker carlson's firing today? >> thank you, erin. not directly. fox is not going to tell us whether or not she helped play a role in the decision. but if you look at the time line, look at how things have changed or what's happened since she came forward back in late march, she came forward with evidence that fox hadn't turned over to the court and the delaware judge got really upset at fox, almost appoin

the networ fired grossberg after sh initiated the litigation. fo says that she was fired fo divulging private information. my colleague, alex wagner, obtained some of those recordings referenced by abb grossberg. take a listen >> and going to be asking yo for as much evidence as you ca tell us about these lawsuits whatever you can tell us i terms of evidence would be really helpful. okay, great. >> i can tell you exactly what we have. >> perfect. and what about the software, this dominio software >> that's a little harder -- >> seems troubling >> -- to tell you right -- it' being analyzed right now. mean, there are a couple o races that been reversed because the democrat was tripl counted, two already i michigan. now, whether tha applies for the whole state or not i can't tell you yet >> this dominion software, doe nancy pelosi have an interes in it? >> i've read that. i can't prove that >> okay. >> now, i want you to remember here for a moment, all of this has come out before the tria has even started. and th fireworks might continue onc it act

the network faces lawsuits fro former producer abby grossberg smartmatic's, another voting technologyny how is fox preparing for these multiple fights ahead? >> >> i think of one of fox's calculations will be a financial calculation. how much can i really play out in terms of these lawsuits and settlements? especially since smartmatic is asking for more money an dominion even did. dominion water more than a billion dollars. smartmatic wants more than two billion dollars. so smartmatic also i incentivized to continue t fight. they are incentivized to continue to bring out more embarrassing revelations about fox news - in the times during this critical period of time afte the election, -- conversations. she seems to have a lot of receipts about what was goin on inside the company as i scrambled to contain the financial damage that wa happening as they wavered back and forth between saying tha joe biden had won the election and allowing, you know, a crew of colonists try to push election lies. and this was going to continue to be difficult for fox, i think at the end of the day it will p

the network faces a lawsui from former producer, abby grossberg, who claims that fox's lawyers tried to manipulate her testimony durin the dominion case. in fact, just yesterday, msnbc said they knew of a call between grossberg and former trump advisor, peter navarro in which he privately blaste trump lawyer, sydney powell, i her election lies. fox faces an even bigger lawsuit in another company, we have a 2.7 billion dollar suit from smartmatic, in a statemen after the settlement wit dominion, a representative fro state maddock, dominions investigation exposed some o the misconduct and damag caused by fox's disinformation campaign smartmatic will explores the rest what's more, dominion wants to hold election deniers beyond fox accountable as well, i fact, the company ha defamation lawsuits pendin against other far-right medi outlets, including newsmax oann, which went even furthe than fox and their promotion o election lies, and they ar also taking legal action against several individuals, including my pillow chie executive, mike lindell, patrick byrne, and rud giuliani, and sidney

fox says that grossberg's claims are, quote, an meritorious. back with our panel, and joining us is writer and comedian hari khan of all you. ari, great to have you. here >> well, it's fascinating to hear everything she encountered behind the scenes. we don't know yet what's on those tapes. sounds like there's still some recordings of sydney powell and rudy giuliani. it's not just all behind the scenes that tucker, but i don't think they'll ever come out, it's certainly fascinating. but regardless, she tells us what she experienced. so -- , you've worked at an, hour you've worked in newsrooms, as have i. what they did -- i, mean there's a lot of collegial experience at losing, there's funny posters, funny things written on the wall. what was going on in tucker's pot in tucker's office was in a completely different vein. >> i haven't worked in a news room like that, in terms of what she describes. >> absolutely, that's my point. that this is in a completely different category. >> yeah, this is not a newsroom that i've experience, or that i've se

well, grossberg, of course, worked on tucker carlson's show, among others.d potential guests. >> he would call and tell them that, that if you don't participate or you don't come on the show, we will destroy you. >> this coming, though, as carlson right now is still remaining totally silent in the wake of his abrupt firing from the network. our senior media reporter oliver darcy is "outfront." nearly 90 tapes, abby says today that she still has. how worried is fox about them? >> they're not flattering tapes, and keep in mind, as you said, she not only worked as a top booker for tucker carlson, but she was a top producer for maria bartiromo, who was someone who factored big in this dominion lawsuit, and is also in the smartmatic lawsuit. so, in total, i imagine that the revelation that she has 90 tapes is probably more reason for the murdochs to settle this case with her. she's filed a lawsuit against them, and not let this drag on. >> so, in terms of what's happening at fox, you've got tucker gone, the biggest star there. how is it affecting them so far? >>

. >> reporter: former fox news producer abby grossberg brought those recordings to light, though foxues it provided information when we first learned it. grossberg is also suing the network, telling nbc's cynthia mcfadden her defamation case for the case was coerced. fox calling her lawsuit without merit. >> and i realize the answer that they wanted me to say were putting me in a very vulnerable position to be the company's scapegoat. >> reporter: the high-stakes trial is expected to run for six weeks. some of fox's biggest names from rupert murdoch to popular hosts are expected to take the stafnltd lester? >> emilie ikeda here in new york, thank you. >>> in 60 seconds, a viewer tells us how he believes his identity is being used to fuel ilillegal workrk in slslaughterhououses. >>>>> we're baback now ts wd myastheniaia gravis who are popositive ts wd myastheniaia gravis for r acetylchololine receptoror antibodieies, it m may feel lilike the word is moving g without yoyou. but ththe picture e is changi, with v vyvgart. in a clininical trial,l, partrticipants a achieved imimpd in a cli

piece, i'v grossberg of course was one of tucker across and producers wh alleges that she was told by network to mak misrepresentations to try to protect fox. she also said that they took her phone at one point and deleted or altered message between her and one of the hosts, maria cordero mo. that is going to be some blockbuster testimony that unfolds during the trial i am so glad, katie, that yo and other journalists will b up there being able to give us th living color blow by blow of what is going on in that courtroom. >> angela, literally 30 second but i do have to ask, do you agree with gland that the fact that there are no cameras in that courtroom will actually b a boon to fox and not be helpful, at all, for dominion? >> it definitely helps fox i the sense that it will be a lo harder for their audience to see their hosts lying about it we were the only entity to fil the actual motion. the media group sent a lette -- we filed a motion to intervene to get audio recordings and to try to expand access here. as rupert murdoch said durin his deposition, fox news was uniquely position

um abby grossberg is gratified that her contribution to telling the truth doggedly over the course of the last few months has contributed to this settlement today, and we are proud of our colleagues at dominion and dominion itself for holding fox to the standard of truth that it should have had held itself to. um we do believe that from our perspective, although we understand the newsworthiness of today's events for us, it's a little bit of the tail wagging the dog because abby's case to case is actually one in delaware that sounds and civil conspiracy where fox and its attorneys essentially sought to escape goat abby and have her pressure her to tell foxes lies in a court of law, which he wasn't willing to do. uh and she's is she stood up forcefully and courageously and i think that's part of what brought up brought about the settlement today, so that suit is continuing and many of the issues in the dominion suit prevail in that suit, and we also are gratified. that the court saw fit to appoint a special master, uh, to address some of the improprieties in discovery that fox and its a

as for that surprise evidence, those secret recordings provided by former fox producer abby grossberg, about them "the new york times" writes this. quote, in one of the recordings from november 8th, 2020, maria bartiromo asks rudy giuliani about the dominion software. he says this, quote, it's being analyzed right now when she asks him about a false connection to nancy pelosi, giuliani says, quote, yeah, i've read that. i can't move that yet. i can't prove that yet, or ever. and now just moments before we came on the air, bloomberg news is reporting that rupert murdoch himself could take the stand in this trial as early as monday. b bloomberg's reporting goes like this rupert murdoch is expected to be called to the witness stand in the dominion voting system's defamation lawsuit against his company as soon as monday. that is according to people familiar with the matter murdoch would be the second witness called, people said, meaning he would likely testify on monday or tuesday bombshell legal developments in this dominion $1.6 billion defamation lawsuit against fox news is where we be

and there's also that pending lawsuit now from his ex booker, abby grossberg, who allege rampant sexismc behavior that was running wild on his show, and then he's also got this legal notice from ray apps, who he made part of his central january 6th conspiracy theory, during, on his program. so, there's all this litigation that scott carlson's name over it. and you have the dominion lawsuit. so, it seems at fox, they said enough is enough. >> joining me now from los angeles, civil rights attorney areva martin. appreciate you being with us. >> i, rosemary. >> so, big news monday morning, fox news abruptly forcing out controversial right-wing host tucker carlson, one week after fox news settled that massive defamation lawsuit with dominion voting systems for more than $787 million. so, why do you think fox forced carlson out so suddenly at this time? was it the mounting incriminating evidence against him, or that text messages he sent, disparaging fox leadership? >> well, rosemary, it appears to be a combination of all of the above. what we do know is that tucker carlson was caught off gua

the popular host is also being sued by former fox produce abby grossberg she accuses carlson of promoting a hostile work environment, speaking to nbc news an excuse live interview. >> women were objectified. it was a game, it was a sport, it was like being in a locke room >> in a statement, the network called the claims on meritorious, and riddled wit false allegations. but carlson's departure from fox wasn't the only media shak up today, cnn announce longtime anchor don lemon woul be leaving >> so good morning everyone, s glad we could join us here >> ceo chris licked thanke limited minutes for the company, don will forever be a part o the cnn family lemon tweeting a different tak on his studying departure. i am stunned, i would've thought that someone i management would have th decency to tell me directly. cnn denies the claim tha management did not offer him a opportunity for a meeting. lemon supporters comes just tw months after controversial comments he made on air abou women. specifically, presidential candidate and former human aci or nikki haley >> nikki haley is not in her prime,

carlson was named in a loose all -- new lawsuit by abby grossberg who has described the culture of sexualt and general misogyny at the network. carlson's top producer was also fired monday. in 2017, like neff, one of carlson's top writers, resigned after it was revealed he had written deeply racist remarks. for more we're joined by madeleine peltz who is the deputy director of rapid response at media matters for america. her two new pieces are headlined "with tucker carlson out, other fox extremists now have the spotlight" and "tucker carlson is out at fox news. here's a brief look at his hatred and conspiracy theories." welcome to democracy now! all of this, obviously, increased fox viewership. they did not take him off the air before. this comes right after this three quarters of a billion dollar settlement with dominion. talk about what you understand happened. >> it is difficult to oversee the impact this will have on the cable news universe in terms of what led to this stunning decision. there are a number of factors floating around in the air. media reporters have given reports of t

we also know that a fired producer abby grossberg alleged harassment and a toxic work environment inawsuit after dominion there's an outside counsel investigated the claims and told her lawyers they were unfounded, but that investigation did conclude recently. whether or not it's something to do with that or something we have at this point no idea about yet remains to be seen. >> would it be fair to say, eric, that this is shocking? it isn't every day whatever happened in that lawsuit and $787 million notwithstanding, not to minimize it, but to get rid of your most popular host? >> yes, it is shocking i think it's also proof for people who are concerned about the misinformation and disinformation that appears on fox news, perhaps the most effective way of combating it is to target the way the channel makes money off these kinds of broadcasts a big settlement figure also assessed that there was another lawsuit waiting in the wings there's also another voighting machine company poised to sue fox news if you think of other people, big stars displaced in recent years, roger ailes, the fo

abby grossberg says she's been subpoenaed in that. >> that's a big deal.ion, they settled for $383 million. they were trying to get $1.6 billion in damages. smartmatic is alleges $2.7 billion in damages. fox has to pivot and prepare for a potentially even bigger defamation suit that is going to go down. her coming out now is saying that there is more proof out there, i'm sure the smartmatics lawyers are thinking this is a huge win for them. >> great point. by the way, if anyone thought that was just a u.s. issue, think again. sergei lavrov, listen to what he said about this. >> translator: perhaps it would be useful to consider how things are with freedom of speech in the united states. i've heard that tucker carlson left fox news. it's curious news. what is this related to? one can only guess. but clearly, the wealth of views and the american information space has suffered as a result. >> that's the russian foreign minister talking about this in an argument -- sort of an argument about free speech. >> that makes me more proud to be an american than anythi

a moment the attorney that fired every grossberg ner get his take on this and other developments. and to lawsuits against the network she is alleging sexism, hostile work environment, and accuses the company of coercing her into giving misleading testimony in the devinney in case she. also said she has 90 recordings from her time at fox, there were never shared in the dominion case, an attorney said that the january 6th put a special prosecutor, now has descriptions of those recordings, and they want them. first a talk with new york times jim ruttenberg who's on the byline with the breaking tucker carlson story. also senior media reporter oliver darcy. so you can't just lay out more of your reporting, about what allegedly led to the breaking point between fox and carlson. >> well anderson, what we are reporting is that, there was a late break in terms of what fox 's board of directors knew, about redacted portions of these tucker carlson emails, that were going to be an issue a trial. some of the viewers or might, remember they're a bunch of emails from tucker carlson, that were p