grossman identified. mr. grossman, do you have it? >> he started to show it to me. >> okay. in form and in substance, i think that the e-mail said something like, st croix could we disclose the analysis. do you have it? and you have read it into the record, i just want mr. gibner to have it. >> thank you, mr. grossman. >> the e-mail, obviously reflects my view on miss herrick's analysis, i do think that it was excellent and certainly i had not received or read mr. shaw's response, but it did experience a opinion as to what i thought would happen with the complaint and it was directed to mr. st. croix. he is clearly the person that i typically deal with when trying to figure out procedural matters and what should be disclosed and what should be in the packet and what shouldn't. so i followed my regular procedure in sharing that with him. does that create a conflict that should lead me to recould yous myself from this matter? >> no it does not create a legal conflict or a disqualifying conflict that would require you to recuse yourself. >> it indicates that you reviewed her an

. >> i am allen grossman. the commission and its vast decisions and actions must set the standard of ethical behavior. and conduct expected for those in san francisco. and your behavior is in the commission by the san francisco voters. two items task the commission and executive director meet the standard they should exemplify. first one is for the handling of complaints for the sunshine ordinance. this is the first two submitted to the task force for review and comment. this one five months after your april joint meeting was not. you may not be aware that the task force has been unable to conduct business for four months because of lack of a handicap member and canceled their may meeting. and then appointed six new members, and since may the task force member has been held up by the board. does a nonfunctional task force that does not provide any input meet the standard of ethical behavior. the other is mr. shaw's case. the agenda says that this commission will deliberate the san jose attorney office recommen

rex grossman had a tough time but he still knows the system better than anybody. i think kurt cousins is going to be a good player, but i think experience counts. if he's just going to be here as a mentor to robert griffin iii, why? put him out there. at least activate him. make him the third quarterback to go to him. >> you can't actually do that. >> we'll talk about that. >> we'll explain what happens. >> there's teams that activate three quarterbacks. >> in the game situation. >> i know that, hello, mcfly. >> i don't know if he's going to be a great quarterback. i don't know if cousins is going to be a great quarterback. there was a lot when shanahan drafted him. you had other means, go after cousins. from a developmental standpoint, i understand what they were doing. robert is the starter. you need two competent quarterbacks in the league. from a long term, developmental standpoint. however, if you are trying to win this year, you have rex. >> they run with robert. i don't think it's fair to rex to put him in that position. >> you think cousins runs the same o

grossman. >> david pilpal i will try to be brief. there are a number of issues at play here. i was not a member of the sunshine ordinance task force at the time that this matter was heard and referred. i'm relying primarily on the memos from miss herrick, and some of the collateral materials that i have seen. i thought this was a fairly straight forward matter but i believe that it is more complicated than i initially thought. i do believe that the commission is the proper place to air this and to make it a decision. i don't believe that it needs to go to any further outside body. and i generally concur, and i believe that i do concur with mr. gibner's analysis that under the charter only the ethics commission can make a final determination, even if some other body provider review and analysis. i think that mr. shaw was largely correct on the question of amrikbility of the balancing tests san francisco in the sunshine ordinance and the incorporation of the state law with some exceptions. i'm looking very carefully at the summary of the complaints in the two memos from miss he

joining us now is sergeant adam grossman with the new jersey state police in west trenton. to us about what your folks have been doing. >> good morning. at this point, we have been monitoring the storm... being in close communication with the county oem personnel. and we are really waiting for daybreak to... survey and assess the state and see where the assets are needed and we will start deploying assets. >> the pictures of destruction and flooding seem to be so extreme there. have you had to undertake rescues? >> caller: we have not -- we are not going to send our emergency subpoenaers out. weaver are echoing governor christie's advice that -- our responders will not go out until daybreak. so, right now, we are in a stand-by mode. >> so when somebody contacts you and needs urgent help, you are doing -- >> caller: we will go out there. we are going to assess -- the situation, the calls are coming in locally. if they need a local agency, need our assistance, we will go out there and assist. >> i know what the governor said. and i don't -- if somebody needs help and they con

grossman. >> i just mentioned it. >> okay. so the issue is -- >> no, i was going to see if you want to look at 6724. >> yeah, i would like it. do we have it? can we put it on the overhead for the rest of the commissioners to see it? i am disappointed that i left my -- at the office. there it is. >> at the beginning of it. and then after we get to "b" little 2. it goes over to the next page. (inaudible) personal information. all the lists. and that's seven. and then to law enforcement information. (inaudible) >> i think we are familiar with it and have read it many times. what we are trying to find is what the right source of law is to refer to. we know that the list is there. it's which is the right section to create that umbrella. >> 6720-b is the definition. you want to use that as the definition, that's fine. i don't think that staff has objection to that. what other public comment was 6724 outlines documents that must be disclosed. if you rather tie that into the definition, that would be fine too. >> okay. >> one thing th

grossman, please? >> sit down. >> there is time for public comment, there is time to hear from the parties. >> and we will have that time. >> mr. heart, i am going to ask people to leave if we are not going to be able to respect the rules and our procedures here. you will certainly have the opportunity to speak, and like i said, mr. shaw, especially will have his chance. any other questions for mr. gidner? >> i am trying to think whether this would be something that would be ammenable, to research, because it is our responsibility, and i just don't know whether the law is going to give us a crystal answer than that. >> certainly, i can see the legal problem with having it separate agency make a determination that we somehow passed through as binding. now, could another city, county agency, make a recommendation that we would then have to readjudicate? that sounds like something that would likely be possible and would the premature of a completely, an agency that is totally separated from ours, provide

grossman will correct me if i am wrong. the sunshine task force is a quasi-judicial body. they have already conducted their investigation. you shouldn't be redoing their work. as to p, the definition reads, referral is a written document from the task force to the commission initiating an ethics commission complaint. that's not what the process is. when the task force forwards you a matter for enforcement, it's for enforcement of a complaint previously heard at the task force. it is not initiating a brand-new complaint [buzzer] with the etc. -- ethics commission. you need to rework the wording of 2-p before you adopt it. >> good evening, bruce wolf. two commissionary studley's question. we went over this in the april meeting. it was clear in the ordinance that there are two ways, pathways that the task force can ask for enforcement. one is through the willful failure misconduct path. and the other path it can choose any other appropriate entity, city agency or what have you, to provide enforcement. but to your additional question with regards to supervisor of records, in 6

will undergo a treadmill test and if there are any setbacks, it will be either kirk cousins or rex grossman in the quarterback spot. >>> former players are hoping rg3 learns a few lessons from that concussion. bruce johnson went to redskins park and talked to one former player who knows a whole lot about that stuff. >> you don't remember much. i was knocked out for a quarter and a half as a rookie. >> walker was on the sidelines sunday working for redskins radio when rg3 got knocked out of the game. >> used to call a ding, you know, and more of them happen in practice than in games than i can recall. >> nfl is being sued by players by not doing enough. >> the league is stricter with concussions than they have ever been before. >> grant paulson says he won't be back on the field until he is cleared by rules now in place. >> recalling numbers and different quizzes almost that they give you. you are in and out of a darkroom. they do something similar to what people go through medically. >> there are two issues. the first being rg3's concussion the second, when does rg3 get out of bounds and pr

joining me by phone, adam grossman of the new jersey office of emergency management.m, what can you tell us at this hour? what's the situation? where are you most concerned? >> our concerns are statewide. we are going to continue to monitor as the night moves along and get into the morning hours, like the governor stated we're not going to put our first responders in harm's way. the state office of emergency management is just continuing to monitor the storm and the flooding situation. >> we had heard about an unknown number of people who were stranded in atlantic city and elsewhere. do you have any good numbers? do you have any estimates? >> no. i do not have any estimates at this time. these are numbers that continue to change and we'll continue to communicate with the emergency management personnel. >> wnbc reporting four deaths in new jersey. to you have any updated numbers on injuries as well? >> no, i do not, not at this time. >> there were, as we understand, huge parts of the boardwalk in atlantic city that were swept away. obviously other parts. we just heard

the head coach feels good about that be cousins or even rex grossman. >> i have the conference and bothnd that's a great feeling. i can't say that i felt that way about my second team quarterbacks. i got probably the best situation i have been in in a long time. >> maybe a heightened sense of, you know, need to be ready. but i feel like i have had to be ready all these other weeks and ready this past weekend and that won't change. >> 1:00 first pitch tomorrow from nats park. we will be there live with coverage. brian is back to wrap up after this. are you ready ? share everything by turning your smartphone into a mobile hotspot for up to 8 wifi-enabled devices at no extra charge. like the new droid razr m by motorola only $99.99. ♪ ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] introducing a reason...to look twice. introducing a stunning work of technology -- the entirely new lexus es. and the first-ever es hybrid. this is the pursuit of perfection. >>> taking the edge off tonight with news that might make you feel old. this week is the 30th anniversary of the release of et. the cast reunited with director, st

kissins and grossman. >> i have the conference in both guys and that is a great feeling to have a lot of times you feel good about one but not two. so, i probably have the best situation i have been in in a long time. >> maybe there is a heightened sense of, you know, a need to be ready, but, i feel like i have had to be ready all of the other weeks and needed to be ready this past weekend and that won't change. >> reporter: we'll know more about rg3' status tomorrow. a taste of what is coming your way tomorrow, game 3 of the nlds. >> and you and i will be out there both looking for good weather. sue, what do you say? >> you get to go out and i don't? >> and this is a good day, brian. getting up to 70 degrees. fog and morning drizzle possible. by the time the nats throw out the pitch, there will be some breaks in the overpass. >> and back here at 10. the news edge at 11. hope you will be, to. [ barack obama ] i'm barack obama, and i approve this message. [ female announcer ] he says... president obama and i both care about poor and middle-class families. [ female announcer ] but this

shanahan does say if there are any set books along the way, kirkusens or rex grossman will be at quarterback on saturday. >> how do intelligencists beige -- how do specialists gauge? they look at it hours and days later. it's mild traumatic brain injuries that won't necessarily show up on a ct scan or an mri but damage from repeat concussions adds up especially if the brain doesn't have enough time to heal. >> if the head injury is repeated over and over again, it's going to have an impact not only on short-term but long- term basis. so it's important to pick up on that. really you need time. the basis of deciding when a person returns to this sport is when they return back to their normal state. >> the doctor also says the amount of time a person blacks out at impact and how much memory they lose, these are key indicators to how severe the concussion is. >>> a new poll is out tonight showing mitt romney ahead in the race for president. all this following last thursday's debate. according to the pew research center, 49% of likely voters are favoring romney. 45% like president obama. just las

robert grossman is the ceo of the hospital. >> we had failure of our primary power, secondary power, up systems failed within 30 minutes. so we went from functioning perfectly to being completely out of power. >> reporter: it quickly became a race against time to evacuate 300 patients including 20 newborns from the neonatal intensive care unit. when i arrived shortly before midnight, ambulances were lined up waiting to transport patients to nearby hospitals. the doctor demonstrated how hospital personnel used plastic sleds to transport patients down dark narrow staircases. >> one, make sure that they got off of the floor. the other was who was the sickest? who could go down first. >> reporter: 31-year-old christine was in the intensive care unit with complications following her 2008 liver transplant. she was taken down 14 floors on a sled. >> the great thing about is it they kept asking me are you okay. >> reporter: she was transferred to mount sinai medical center and is resting comfortably. >> is this the worst case scenario? >> hard to imagine worst case. worst case would be if we

grossman is here and he is an attorney, let him speak to some of these issue and answer your questions, you would rather let it be mr. shaw who can't, and in your knowledge, answer those questions. so that you have justification for doing what you want to do. >> the bottom line is if you find mr. st. croix independent, you are preparing your own name. if you find him guilt y you are finding yourself guilty because delegation is not abdocation. >> good evening, dr. derek kerr again. one of the things that prompted mr. shaw's request, was the fact that retaliation had already occurred against the two whistle blowers who reported the misappropriations from the gift fund. i understand the they theory cal concept of protecting them in the future by keeping things confidential. but it doesn't work in reality, you see? now, if you conduct the f.b.i., and ask for information about a closed case, they will tell you that how they investigated the process is confidential. some of the information is confidential but they will still send you the file, sometimes it will be completely blackened out.

the skins and giant last met december 17th, 2011 at the meadowlands and behind rex grossman they jumped out to a 17-0 lead. the defense intercepted eli manning three times, once in the end zone by josh wilson. the skins held on for a 23-10 victory to sweep the season series. the redskins say those wins mean nothing to them but what about the giants? >> they won the super bowl and said that didn't matter to them. they'll have a chip on their shoulders just because we beat them and it's a divisional game, you know, but that definitely -- it's in the back of our minds, but it's just a new year, fresh start, a new team. >> we're going to get their best he is after them winning the super bowl -- especially after them winning the super bowl last year. even after winning last week, we'll go up there for the game and be ready to may and hitting on all cylinders. -- play and hitting on all cylinders. >>> the redskins were fined today $20,000 for violating nfl procedures for reporting injury information. they did not properly address robert griffin, iii's concussion to the media. >>> the wizards