why i was in the groundlings theater and i've been in the send a company for a year you know you could be moved up to the main company after 6 months but in it get in after a year and so the tom maxwell the artistic director said well we're doing a play this summer is the olympics called and. and they had the olympic arts festival in l.a. need pick to play a starring phil called chick hazard is a character is olympic trials and she carries was like. you know humphrey bogart in the maltese falcon or sam spade in mario those forty's the attack tim's from the short in movies and so. so so tom so wanting to understudy. you could understudy a role in because i'm going to be the one working with you in the company and i said all right in this play to cadge and i go whose idea was then he goes it was fellows i go. phil knows who i am because yes now you have their stand on the grounds nobody had money phil was the king of the grounding so it was like we were just taking classes in the senate company but the main company we idolized everybody in it phil was like the the best improviser he was