what you have is groups such as gun owner of america inc., the virginia citizens defense league, as welle private individuals who have now filed that appeal. but, look, you have the governor, governor northam who says this temporary ban is necessary. that's why he says he declared this state of emergency, he says as you remember during that briefing that it is based on what he called credible threats from out of state groups, some militia groups, some white supremacist and then you remember what we had from the fbi, the fbi arresting as you mentioned three individuals who are alleged white supremacists who were -- what they say, were planning to attend this event. that's why you have the governor declaring a state of emergency. why he says this temporary ban is necessary, but on the other side, you have law abiding gun rights groups who say, look, you're unfairly targeting us. right now we're at a stalemate, but for now it looks as if at least for now that temporary ban still very much in place awaiting to see what happens in the court. >> was it deliberately chosen to have this rally on