i believe corp. -- grover is right.he first responsibility is to maximize the efficiency of the dollars we get. folks, we're going to have to continue to invest. that means raising revenue or prudent borrowing because only through investment and to businesses grow and can we grow as a country. we talked about roads and bridges. infrastructure is more than roads and bridges. infrastructure is having a system that is capable of getting small businesses to be able to compete in the global marketplace. we do not have that. we rank 15th in our broadband system. infrastructure is the electrical grid. if we do not build out our grand our competitiveness is going to go through the toilet. infrastructure is important in everything we do. we have been rated best in the world in 2005. now we're 15th in the air transport infrastructure. we're behind countries like panama and malaysia. port infrastructure, we're 18th. rail, the 22nd. that is embarrassing. this country used to be the greatest in the world. i believe it still is. but

we should, too. >> grover?pens with road construction and why i think the folks who advocate other kinds of government spending have misused the road building industry and the road using public in playing this game where they say, we have shovel ready rose and you get $800 billion in other things. -- roads and you get $800 billion in other things. he could not have passed is sufficient roads if you came in from west virginia. they may have spent the money getting pay raises to people who do not build roads, but work for the government. that is what they did do. when they keep doing that and people come back and say, let's build roads, taxpayers look at you and say, we have played this game before and we are not calling for it. to the first point, if the government takes a dollar from someone who earned it and gives it to someone who is politically connected, are there more dollars in the room? if obama, harry reid, and nancy pelosi put three buckets of water in the lake and take three but it out and they walk o

the cleveland attorney general was grover's attorney. for bryan, cleave the thought that he represented all that he did not like about politics. -- cleveland thought that he represented all that he did not like about politics. >> they're filled with convictions and bereft of charisma who are willing to lead a charge against secular forces. >> bryan was a champion of those who needed help. he was a man of great conviction. one of the things he was trying to do that was most difficult was to take on the economic powerful class that had emerged in american politics in a way that did not look like class for their -- class warfare. he was trying to speak to the people without tearing down but instead attempting to build up. that was a very hard case to make. he did it beautifully but it was a very difficult attempt to repeal the inadequacies of american society at the time without looking like someone who was just tearing down the american ideal. >> those are your words. they are parallel to someone today an american politics? >> i'm not sure

grover will be here today.eather and a complete interview so strap yourself in, folks. >> fantastic. >> meantime, governor rick perry waking up with a few bruises this morning? kind of. after mitt romney lands a series of jabs at him in last night's debate. joining us with the wrap-up live from orlando bright and early is shannon bream. thanks so much for getting up early. >> it's my pleasure. i got to tell you, this place last night, this convention center was rocking and rolling, that debate hall was packed. there was tons of energy in there and the candidates seemed to be feeding after that, wasting no time going after each other. the two frontrunners doing a lot of that last night including this jab from governor romney. >> there's a rick perry out there that said almost a quote, that the federal government shouldn't be in the pension business, that it's unconstitutional. unconstitutional and it should be returned to the states so you better find that rick perry and get him to stop saying that. >> that was

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joel grover from our l.a. station has this exclusive report. >> the firemen are following us. >> reporter: this movie was shot at venice beach where this porn actress exposes herself to passers-by and performs lewd acts, most of which we can't show you. >> look at the fire truck. >> oh, my gosh. >> reporter: the backdrop, l.a. city fire engine number 263. from station 63 in venice. >> look at this fire truck. isn't that nice? >> reporter: watching the movie being shot appears to be a group of firefighters. >> i'm a firemen. i know them. >> reporter: insiders who didn't want to appear on camera, say firefighters set it up ahead of time, arranging with the film crew to park their engine in two disabled spots at the beach so producers could use it for their movie. >> zero tolerance for that. >> reporter: an enteral affairs investigation is under way. >> the fire chief is adamant about addressing the issue, finding out what took place. >> reporter: for several minutes of the movie, the actress has free access to t

during the grover cleveland episode, there was a question about what grover cleveland thought of william jennings bryan. he said that grover cleveland hated william jennings bryan and he was not able to finish. i am curious what he hated him for and if that was true. >> i will start. you can follow up. grover cleveland was a hard money democratic president. he did not like bryan's position. it was the silver at issue and the income tax that bryan had championed in the house and helped pass. it was the breaking of the cleveland admi of the purchase act that most got the ire of grover cleveland. >> cleveland was representative of the old democratic party. >> the democratic party, of commercial interests, especially from the east where cleveland was from. he was from buffalo. people who believed in thomas jefferson and that the government should not do very much in the economy. during the depression of the 1890's, grover cleveland said that the people should support the government but the government should not support the people. this is different from what bryan believed. he was a liberal

did the president intend to specify that grover norquist pledge? >> i don't think it had anything to do with grover norquist specifically. he was making the point that if congress doesn't act, taxes will go up on working americans and everyone that gets a paycheck. that's a terrible idea. if you're going to have this pledge, honor it in the next several months to ensure the tax cut is passed and that americans get in this case because we're expanding the tax cut, $1,500. the average american family an extra $1,500 next year. that makes a huge difference when you are making ends meet and you are buying school supplies and paying your mortgage or your washer and dryer is broke and needs to be replaced. it's money when they spend it, it goes straight into local businesses who then have greater demand, who then hire more workers and you create a virtuous cycle. we're confident that once outside economists and analysts unaffiliated with the congress will see it as positive for economic growth and job creation. >> democrats have been blocking the trade b

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did the president intend to specify that grover norquist pledge? >> i don't think it had anything to do with grover norquist specifically. he was making the point that if congress doesn't act, taxes will go up on working americans and everyone that gets a paycheck. that's a terrible idea. if you're going to have this pledge, honor it in the next several months to ensure the tax cut is passed and that americans get in this case because we're expanding the tax cut, $1,500. the average american family an extra $1,500 next year. that makes a huge difference when you are making ends meet and you are buying school supplies and paying your mortgage or your washer and dryer is broke and needs to be replaced. it's money when they spend it, it goes straight into local businesses who then have greater demand, who then hire more workers and you create a virtuous cycle. we're confident that once outside economists and analysts unaffiliated with the congress will see it as positive for economic growth and job creation. >> democrats have been blocking the trade b

because it is -- it is not so exclusively as grover would suggest. in pennsylvania we had 39 transit systems. some of the marin counties with many people. . . and r.p.o.'s. rural planning organizations and they sat with the d.o.t. representatives in each state, not federal and they determine how to spend the transportation dollars in their own districts. so there is state control and regional and local control of how those federal dollars get spent. >> governor, i'll give you to last word. >> >> they do come back with some restriction. they are minor and good first steps. they don't not exist. they have been there for 30-40 years. we need roads, more roads, good roads and brings. -- bridges. you have a problem with free riders. the government talked about all the -- mass transit. set buses aside. those can clearly be done privately. >> absolutely not. you can't have a bus system in a small county privately unsubsidized. it only works if there is a profit. we can take washington out of boston and amtrak and make a profit on it. there is no profit in m

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grover does do windows. >> a lot of fun with grover and the gang in a few minutes. >>> we begin withatest on robyn gardner. she disappeared in aruba more than six weeks ago. only one suspect, her travel companion, gary giordano, is being investigated. and investigators spent the afternoon, re-enacting their last moments ago. we're going to talk to giordano's attorney, jose baez, in a moment. first, we go to matt gutman in aruba. >> reporter: good morning, george. investigators spent about an hour at this rocky beach, trying to figure out what happened. at some point, know that he they went snorkeling. robyn went towards the beach. she cut her foot on this rock. and she went out anyway. that's when the trail goes cold. the arrival, gardner and giordano would snorkel here. using actors to play the roles of gardner and giordano investigators tried to piece together what happened that day. and whether giordano committed a crime. now, he claims he's innocent that the current pulled gardner out to sea. >> this isn't going to be the make-or-break issue in the case. but it's a nice argument

in the web version of the interview with the senator, i mentioned grover norquist was the head of the club for growth. he's actually the head of americans for tax reform, although in my defense, same [bleeped] difference. join us next week at 11:00. here it is, your moment of zen. ♪ hey hey ♪captioning sponsored by comedy central captioned by media access group at wgbh access.wgbh.org >> stephen: tonight the latest on last week's iowa straw poll. it is now an empty dirt field full of raccoons. then anderson cooper loses his composure, it's the worse journalistic gaffe since walter cronkite covered the moon landing topless. and my guest is kevin mitnick. i'll ask him how to set up my goddamn wireless printer. it's my last blog cast for two weeks-- broadcast for two weeks but i promise to give you one last great show before i go. this-- just roll it captioning sponsored by comedy central (cheers and applause) welcome to the report, everybody. thank you so much. >> stephen, stephen, stephen, stephen, stephen, stephen, stephen, stephen, stephen! (cheers and applause) >> stephen: thank you

we talk about grover cleveland. each man had impressive aspects to their personal or political character, and yet look at their record in office. grover cleveland is generally regarded as the most impressive president between lincoln and theodore roosevelt. >> and off the list, perhaps in parentheses, we should talk about some contenders that we should forget. >> well, they have been forgotten. >> let me ask you though, you wrote a book on adelaide stevenson. would you put adelaide stevenson at the table? >> yes. >> did you ever meet him? >> know. i did spend some time with his son, who as you know was a senator and then resigned in 1980. he made a big tactical mistake, went back and ran for governor in illinois and was beaten. he retired from politics. but that is interesting thing about most of these people. they are really committed to anything in public service and they are all effective politicians. adlai stevenson had that side to him of -- i am not sure i really want to be doing this, and yet he has given us

what do you say to grover norquist and the others?> the gospel according to grover is what that is. anybody who would sign a pledge 20 years ago to do something or not should not be in congress. you don't sign things before you hear the debate and listen to the arguments and all of the rest of it but i can tell you you can't get there without getting additional revenue. you see coburn take $6 billion off of ethanol and call that a tax increase it's ludicrous, it's ridiculous. >> a card-carrying strong republican but willing to go along with getting rid of some of the tax breaks. what about trying to cut through the political gridlock in washington. would it have been better if the president and others had fully endorsed your commission back when, when it first came along? >> i think that's exactly what bill clinton would have done, knowing him as i do, he would have embraced that. come in with five dems and five republicans. >> president obama appointed you all. >> obama couldn't have done it because he would have been torn to bits so

in the web version of the interview with the senator, i mentioned grover norquist was the head of theth. he's actually the head of americans for tax reform, although in my defense, same [bleeped] difference. join us next week at 11:00. here it is, your moment of zen. ♪ hey hey ♪captioning sponsored by comedy central captioned by media access group at wgbh access.wgbh.org >> stephen: tonight the latest on last week's iowa straw poll. it is now an empty dirt field full of raccoons. then anderson cooper loses his composure, it's the worse journalistic gaffe since walter cronkite covered the moon landing topless. and my guest is kevin mitnick. i'll ask him how to set up my goddamn wireless printer. it's my last blog cast for two weeks-- broadcast for two weeks but i promise to give you one last great show before i go. this-- just roll it captioning sponsored by comedy central

grover norquist. on a lighter note, couldn't be hard to find a lighter note than that.en an unwelcome guest showed up for rick perry the other day, it was democratic congressman charlie rangel. perry was on rangel's turf, of course. rangel attracted some attention on his way in. let's hear what he had to say to the candidate and why he chose to make that appearance as a party crasher. >> i kind of think he's the best thing going for president obama, but i'm a democrat. i guess i'm here for the same reason that all of you are here, figuring out why he's here. isn't that so? >> what a great new york accent. anyway, fair enough. rangel had another chat with reporters as he left the event, before it was over. why the early exit, he was asked. >> i don't know how he's going to conclude, but i got out before they asked for money. >> got out before he asked for money. smart man. ever heard of fact checking? it's something that nikki haley is treating as a new concept president for the past few weeks, haley has been pushing for reforms that would require some sort of drug testi

first let's open up with grover norquist. >> thank you.d said we have a debt crisis, a deficit crisis making the solution to raise taxes. the real solution is spending too much money, spending less money. now he comes and says we should have tax reform because the tax code is complicated and the rates are too high and the way that he defines tax reform is the about $2 trillion in taxes increases i assume he will jump in with both in favor of the new line which is the balanced budget amendment and he will support a balanced budget amendment which will be in his or restructure to raise taxes so the first thing he does is make sure any balanced budget amendment requires a two-thirds vote to raise taxes in the state of california and the state of arizona does so that the balanced budget amendment will not force the tax increases to balance the budget but will help the congressman and senators who are fighting to reduce spending as the way to balance the budget. let's focus on of raising taxes and then we can focus on spending. the americans fo

sitting down with grover noun scholar linguist author and mit professor noam chomsky professor chomsky thank you very much for taking time to speak with r.t. glad to be with you the first issue i want to speak with you about is the recent clashes that have taken place on wall street between americans who are turning out to demonstrate and police officers from what i read you recently sent a message to support the activists of this group called occupy wall street you've called them courageous and honorable you can you talk to me about your take on occupy wall street wells in the wall street just a short him through the financial institutions the banks are bigger and richer than before a corporate profits are retreating record levels for much of the unemployment rate about the level of the great depression real unemployment these people are saying you know what's going to come here from behind them so fiscal policies like taxation. rules of corporate governance deregulation and so on it was set in motion a vicious cycle which is getting worse and worse in new york so the walk down the st

because grover here was built in the mid eighteenth century it was one of the first great summer country estates to be built for russian ability and today while the palace is now a museum and a concert hall and the outdoor spaces a popular recreation spot for muscovites and businesses and whether you want to stroll through a green algae or space revel in the delights of a modern day metropolis don't forget comfy shoes amount to some black water and road safety. then you're ready to relax into the cool september sun burning off calories in peaceful surroundings. absolutely spectacular well unfortunately that's all the time we have on this week's program about walking through the russian capital i'll see you again at the same time let's wait for more shenanigans around the russian capital until then for me and the rest within. them. great. journey. so to. go. when you look for nuclear winter against. mission barrels. when you have new ideas. for the. wealthy british style. markets why not. find out what's really happening to the global economy cause a report on our. brief in the air about

party sitting down with grover announce scholar linguist author and i'd like to professor noam chomsky present chomsky thank you very much for taking time to speak with r.t. it's good to be with you the first issue of a speaking part is their recent clashes that have taken place on wall street between americans who are turning out to demonstrate and police officers from what i read you recently sent a message to support the activists are this group called occupy wall street you've called them courageous and they are really can you talk to me about your take on occupy wall street well in the wall street just the truth and so the central instance of the sort of bigger picture of the beholder of course. we're going to look forward for emotional unemployment or anything about the level of the great depression and you look at the point of these people are something that works with a couple of the institutions behind some sort of support for him a sort of pollution of a. roof over not a simple regulation additional step in motion a vicious cycle which is going to work and then you're sort of

party sitting down with grover announced scholar at linguist author and mit professor noam chomsky has a track thank you very much for taking time to speak with our team squad with the first shot to speak with you mark is there a recent clashes that are taking place on wall street between americans who are turning out to demonstrate and police officers from what i read you recently sent a message to support the activists of this group called occupied all street you call it that courageous and honorable you can you talk to me about your take on occupy wall street well in the wall street it comes just the sort of the financial institutions of the bank sort of make your money through before a court record all sorts of them are going to fall for much of unemployment i think about the level of the great depression the real unemployment and these people are somewhat likely to be missed him from behind so this corporal him which led to replace him and the rules of corporate governance really shouldn't she want to motion a vicious cycle which is not in washington we're going to go to some of t

during the grover cleveland episode, there was a question about what grover cleveland thought of volumes jennings bryan -- of william jennings bryan. he said that grover cleveland hating william jennings bryan and he was not able to finish. i am curious what he hated him for and if that was true. >> i will start. you can follow up. grover cleveland was a hard money democratic president. he did not like bryan's position. it was the silver at issue and the income tax that bryan had championed in the house and helped pass. it was the breaking of the cleveland administration of the purchase act that most got the ire of clover cleveland -- of grover cleveland. >> the democratic party, of commercial interests, especially from the east where cleveland was from. people who believed in thomas jefferson and that the government should not do very much in the economy. during the depression of the 1890's, grover cleveland said that the people should support the government but the government should not support the people. this is different from what bryan believed. he was a liberal. in our parlance to

artie's sitting down with grover announced scholar linguist author and mit professor noam chomsky present thompson thank you very much for taking time to speak with r.t. it's good to be with you and first to share what i speak with you art is there a recent clashes that are taking place on wall street between americans who are turning out i think that in streets and police officers from what i've read you recently sent a message to support the activists of this group called occupy wall street you call it that in courageous and honorable you can you talk to me about your take on occupy wall street well the world economy is just a short and for the financial institutions many banks that are bigger and richer and the whole world occur for a predilection. for global for national unemployment rate is about the level of the great depression real of the planet and these people are from the explaining. him from behind that sort of fiscal report he will type solution and. it will go over to some degree and we should mention them because they're doing motion a vicious cycle but you really want an o

we talk about grover cleveland. each man had impressive aspects to their personal or political character, and yet look at their record in office. grover cleveland is generally regarded as the most impressive president between lincoln and theodore roosevelt. >> and off the list, perhaps in parentheses, we should talk about some contenders that we should forget. >> well, they have been forgotten. >> let me ask you though, you wrote a book on adelaide stevenson. would you put adelaide stevenson at the table? >> yes. >> did you ever meet him? >> know. i did spend some time with his son, who as you know was a senator and then resigned in 1980. he made a big tactical mistake, went back and ran for governor in illinois and was beaten. he retired from politics. but that is interesting thing about most of these people. they are really committed to anything in public service and they are all effective politicians. adlai stevenson had that side to him of -- i am not sure i really want to be doing this, and yet he has given us

both republican and democratic presidents throughout the nation's history with for example president grover cleveland who said in his eight hundred eighty eight state of the union address as review the achievements of aggregated capital we discover the existence of trusts combinations of monopolies while the citizen is struggling far in the rear or is trampled to death but a thin irony corporations which should be the carefully restrained creatures of the law of the servants of the people are fast becoming the people's masters. or like republican president teddy roosevelt would challenge corporate power by passing the tillman act in one hundred seven which reads simply as she'll be unlawful for any national bank or any corporation to make a monetary contribution in connection with any election to any political office and like franklin roosevelt we called the economic royalists the economic shoals economic royalists at the one hundred thirty six democratic convention roosevelt directed his speech at these economic royalists sane duties economic royalists complain that we seek to overthrow th

first, let's open up with grover norquist. >> thank you.end, barack obama, has come back in the past, and said we have a debt crisis, the deficit crisis, largely of his making, the solution of which in his view is to raise taxes. the real solution to spending too much money is spending less money. now he says we should have tax reform because the tax code is complicated and the rates are too high and the way he defines tax reform is about $2 trillion in tax increases. i assume he will jump in with both feet in favor of the new balanced budget amendment, and will support an amendment which will raise taxes. the first thing to do is to make sure any balanced budget amendment requires at least a two-thirds vote to raise taxes. the state of california does. the state of arizona does. so, the balanced budget amendment will not force tax increases to balance the budget, but will help congressmen and senators who are fighting to reduce spending as a way to balance the budget. \ , let's focus on not raising taxes, and then we can focus on spending

from the earlier debate, grover norquist was targeting government waste and fraud and abuse. are transportation projects being held hostage to that broader situation about how government is wasting our money? do you want to -- how do you feel? >> i think that is a little deeper there, i think -- a little deep there, i think. i think there is an idea that the highway program has gotten away from its core purpose, and some would argue, just for an example, bike paths or sidewalks, that gets a lot of play. there are some who believe we should not fund those. and there are obviously those who believe we should. the question is, should we? and to what extent? and who is going to make the decision? so it all comes back to my earlier comments about reforming the programming and getting it back to where it needs to be and focusing on the things we need to do so we do have a national program, but at the same time, you know, not have a one-size- fits-all. >> to take out the hostage part of it, the overall conversation about the world government generally and the waste in it, does that

one hundred percent of the members to the best of my knowledge proven wrong have signed grover norquist pledge and have said that they will put their pledge above the constitution well the reality is i don't believe in the democrats really already born able to pass something like that when they controlled congress so it's an unpopular thing to pass or pass the state hounds really good when you're running for reelection but when it comes down to the brass tacks it's really hard to put something together that is palatable to members who are also seeking reelection so you're saying no i'm saying i'm sure you know as well because we have a very conservative house of representatives right now that. this is a very important thing to. that obama is doing because he is changing the subject he is the conservatives wanted to cut social security and medicare they wanted to focus entirely on direct kone in cuts to social programs obama is saying to the american people hey look there's another way to do this and first of all a week ago we said it's jobs getting the economy growing that's the big spe

you now has a sort of fear mongering to war and this is a man who also went after george bush and grover norquist are also being part of this conspiracy so you know where these people are coming from their you know they're not of sort of muslim dating anyone out there in the world. and and have you and you've been successful in regarding their rebuttals. you know i think we have you know we've gotten a fair amount of media attention i think that a lot of not just muslim groups but a lot of other sort of interfaith groups and groups in america they're sort of pushing for religious tolerance you know groups that have fought for a long time for civil rights and civil liberties they've been allied with us and they help spread our message and i think that the reason that with the pushback has been so fierce because we have exposed them we are calling them what they are which is merchants of fear and we're saying that this is the sort of country that things are sort of that sort of thing should fly said thanks so much for being with us thank you great to see you last month the center for ameri

pledge to never raise taxes ever ever except ever even in times of war what's funny about that is that grover norquist who has had all these people side the flood he's like the the economic level of the republican party. who's had all the cyclists he also runs the reagan legacy foundation and i've never seen something that is so positively hilariously positioned between a party that would laugh at reagan today based on his tax increases we have we have we're just going i can't say that i don't i don't see i look to the left to try to paint the republican candidates as being all out there and you know that there's no one electable and i think that's so wrong i think that there one thing whoever is the nominee and i don't know it's going to be who ever is going to be the nominee people are going to unite behind that person because i don't want to promise. you that i believe either way. obama is what's motivating the republican party you know on what mitch mcconnell said the liberal goal of republican the said it was to make about a one term president and they felt to cripple the economy so that

really hits the road and you see it with the pledge that many of them made not to raise taxes the grover norquist pledge and at some point at some point you really have to start making those hard decisions and it's no longer just a rhetorical gambit but you've got to make the talk policy decisions i think you are running up against that now we're running out of time a little bit so i'm going to skip the next clip and i want to push a few things together you know i feel like and as i mentioned this was a google sponsored debate they had a you tube it had this really modern feel what i feel is lacking is really discussion of the things that are happening right at this moment i mean do you think that when there's a presidential debate when we have stock markets crashing for the last couple of weeks then you have europe on the brink of a sovereign debt crisis that very well is going you know is going to affect our economy that's going to drag us back down into recession those are things that the candidates should be asked about or how about the fact that troy davis was just executed this wee

blaine was defeated by grover cleveland for the presidency. this will be live from the governor's mansion in agusta, maine, which is at james g. blaine's house. this is the second week of "the contenders" looks at james blaine. could have been president. ross perot, hubert humphrey, some of the other folks we will be covering in this series on friday night. phil, you are on the air. caller: good morning, c-span. only two central points. one is tax corporations and to get rid of some regulations, neither of which is going to help the real economy or unemployment. but that's understandable because those people are no longer involved in the real economy. they are involved in the financial economy. the real economy is the middle class and the poor. so real liftcally, what can we expect in president obama's plan will be gridlocked in congress. they will be gridlocked in november with the super committee. so what can be done? i think at that point it would be time for the president to take independent action legally and sign an executive order, expa

. >> he ran against grover cleveland who won. the republican party to nominate him -- this was his third try for the white house -- what was the key to his success in securing the nomination in 1884 it? >> he was recognized as a leading a gear in the republican party. there is the question. one of his many nicknames was mr. republican. it was certainly a leading figure. >> he also had some great enemies that were trying to deny him the nomination. >> there was a group of moderates. they weren't the intelligentsia from boston -- they were the intelligentsia from boston who believed blaine was corrupt. he did have strong enemies even within his own party. >> this was a close election. will you tell me about these results. >> or cleveland won by 30 or 40 electoral votes. -- grover cleveland won by 30 or 40 electoral votes. >> theodore roosevelt was about to make his presence known. was he a factor in the outcome? >what is interesting was that te election was highly personal. >> we do not think 19th century politics were personal. th

. >> he contended against democrat grover cleveland who won.epublican party that nominated him, this was his third try for the white house, he was unsuccessful the two times earlier. what was the key to getting the nomination in 1884? >> persistence is part of this. he continued to try and he was recognized as a leading figure in the republican party, there is no question. one of his many nicknames was mr. republican and he was certainly a leading figure. >> he had some great enemies at the time who tried to deny him the nomination. explain the spit in -- this split in the republican party. >> there was a group of moderates called the mugwumps. they were the intelligence tip from boston, philadelphia, new york. they were folks that believed that blaine was a very corrupt individual. you think of henry adams who wrote "democracy.' he did have very strong enemies even within his party. >> ultimately, this is a very close election. will you tell me about the result? >> he loses by 30 or 40 votes. >> the actual vote, he loses by 25,000 votes nation

they ghei him the $5 -- they gave him the $5,000 bill between grover cleveland on the 1,000 and sal monop. chase on the 10,000. so that's not very good places. but we do honor him as the father of the constitution, and there's no higher honor than that, few as high. and i want to talk about that this morning. i think he had another child almost as important, equally lively. i want to talk about that child as well. the way i want to do it is read the first chapter of my fourth coming book, "james madison," which touches on all these points and, um, just gives you an introduction to him. and we pick him up on an unlikely day. august 24, 1814, began as a typical summer day in washington; bright and cloudless, promising heat and humidity as the day wore on. for years james madison, the president, had fled high summer in washington and other low-lying cities for the healthier air of his inland home in the virginia piedmont. but this august his presence was required in the capital. america had been at war with britain for two years. mr. madison's war, he had asked congress to declare it, had be

>> i think that's grover's definition.n expert on his pledge and haven't paid much attention to it. i will tell you, i think gloria's got it right. in this environment i can tell you how many angels fit on the edge of a pin, but this is really in the eye of the beholder. the key has to be to stop having a discussion about up and down and talk about the quality of taxation. oil company, for example. always a target for these write-offs they get. we actually have wind, solar biomass, name it. a million different tax credits and special considerations in the tax code. real tax reform says we'll have an energy policy that we understand but not run it through the tax -- broaden the base, take the revenue and try to create jobs. that's missing in this discussion bypieces and not looking at the whole playing field. >> understand, doug, as far as big oil companies are concerned and i don't want to pick on exxon/mobil but i will for a second for the sake of argument. if they're making enormous profits they quarter, tens of billions

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they say that's proof and why you have grover norquists of the world to pledge we will never raise taxesactly the wrong thing to do in one of the worst recessions in modern times. >> there is a new book by ron suskin, largely about the administration and i know you're not a fan of people who do tell-all books but goes back to the bush administration and quotes you in the 2002 mid-terms shouting down paul o'neill with the combination of bush tax cuts and price of the war in afghanistan and potential of the coming war in iraq at that point more needed to be done about deficits and quotes you as saying reagan proved deficits don't matter. do deficits matter? >> they do definitely. >> did you say that? >> i said it within a different context. i don't remember yelling at paul o'neill. we ended up having our differences but we're both relatively mild spoken individuals, don't use a lot of foul language or cuss each other out so to speak. what i was talking about was what president reagan did in his first term, he came in and did two things on the surface seemed controversy. turned out to be im