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guest: i do not think grover norquist has been an instructive voice.ple on the left are equally destructive. social security is not allowed to address the fundamental issues of how to save it. there are folks on both sides of the aisle that to not appear to be interested in resolving our fiscal problems but to raise money for their own agendas. those folks are not credible players as far as i'm concerned and i do not listen to them. host: we have a tweet -- guest: i disagree with him on that. defining "super committee." the congress has the final say. the congress is part of the process. the regular order doesn't work on these big issues. we know that. we have tried that before. people come along and poison the well before you can get the bill on to the floor of the senate or the house. that is why it doesn't work. this is set up by the congress. the congress authorizes the stature art event. -- the statuary event. both sides are on the committee. a more accurate description would be a super conference. congress has the right to set up this committee.

grover, welcome back to the show. you've warned that those who sign the pledge and break it will pay a political price. so whether they're listening to you because you're respected or feared, your opinion on the tax plans being offered by presidential candidates matters. do you support rick perry's optional flat tax? >> i think it's a really good step in the right direction. it takes the top rate to 20%. it does what we need to do internationally. a lot of people have been talking about taking the corporate rate to 25% because that's the european average. the problem is we have state corporate income taxes of between 4% and 5% on average. you really need to take the american corporate rate to 20% in order to be competitive internationally at a total of 25%. of course, on the individual level same thing. most businesses pay taxes through the individual tax code. >> so, grover, your thinking is that if you make taxes low enough, the money -- i don't mean to speak for you, tell me if i'm wrong. the money people don't spe

i want to talk about grover in a second.ere -- you got an amendment passed on the floor in the house to investigate radicalization of certain muslim groups in america and that's being blocked in the senate. talk about the amendment and then tell us why, what was considered to be a noncontroversial bill is being blocked now. >> the amendment is bipartisan accepted by dutch rupeesberger and basically looks at why certain people are being radicalized here in the united states. just in the northern virginia area, five pakistanis in jail now in pakistan for radicalization, a fellow who was going to blow up the metro who lived out in loudoun county in my congressional district. anwar awlaki was in a mosque in northern virginia. you've had the graduate of the saudi academy which is in jail now for planning an attempt to kill the president of the united states. we wonder why are people being radicalized? it was noncontroversial in the house and in the senate and is being blocked by one senator. they don't want to adopt it. >> who is

. >> and grover. can we just say this? grover is specifically elmo before elmo?jimmy: grover's a little crazier than elmo. like if his brain cooked a little bit. ernie is great, because ernie is kind of a [ bleep ]. >> yes. >> jimmy: he does -- he's like bert, like, hey, bert -- have half a cookie. they split the cookie and ernie wants to split it again. he eats half and half and half and bert has nothing. that gives us a little insight into you. >> okay. >> jimmy: but ernie did get in the bath every once in awhile with his rubber duckie and stuff. you with the ocean. >> there you have it. the weirdest thing happened, we walked by the avengers booth because the movie comes out in five years or something -- no, next year, but they are hyping up that movie and they were playing "lovestoned" as they were throwing out -- song of mine. >> jimmy: i know. i' i got a wedding this weekend and you were very big. >> i'm still big at weddings. >> jimmy: yes, you are. you and kool and the gang. >> yes, me, kool and the gang, earth wind and fire and -- >> jimmy: sister sledge.

let me get that to grover norquist, because he is a good guy with a bad idea. anybody that can go through their rosy years and pick of a pledge that you're never one to raise taxes under any situation, even if your country is extremity is justice. he came and testified before us. he said my hero is ronald reagan. i said great, mine, too. as of ronald reagan raised taxes 11 times in 11 years. he said, i know, he did he saidd not like that at all. here you have a situation where 95 percent of the republicans that are serving have signed the pledge. how can you send a pledge before you heard the debate, read the information, know the position of your country and pretend you are a legislator? i think that is a remarkable absurdity. as spend a lot of time talking about him, and i needed to. he is the most powerful man in the united states right now. host: more about the power. the phrase remarkable absurdity. guest: the american people are very committed to not raising their taxes. did just elected a congress that is committed to not raising taxes. people campaigned

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norquist. >> grover norquist is a conservative anti-tax gop kingmaker.cconnell said it has nothing to do with norquist and has everything to do with harry reid and playing politics. >> these bills are designed not to pass. the president is deliberately trying to create an issue here. i don't think the american people think that raising taxes on business, small business in the middle of this economic situation we find ourselves in is a particularly good idea. >> he clearly believes that americans want republicans to stand their ground. and senator reid believes just as firmly that americans support the democratic position and need to be shown who is blocking it. when it comes to policy, the polling does support senator reid's mechanism for the jobs bill. 76% favoring taxing people who make more than $1 million a year. on the other hand on the politics of scheduling vote after hopeless vote may be on much shakier ground. 69% of americans think that congress has done nothing, repeat nothing, to address the country's problems and this is part of it. 28% blam

as you can see, we're just showing you the candidates as they come in, grover. pardon the interruption so viewers can see them arriving. what do you think rick perry has to do and why has he not been more specific? he hasn't come out with a very specific plan. >> right. rick perry's advantage is that he was governor for ten years. he has a track record. he opposed tax increases and he reduced taxes and he did a great deal of reduction and spending. he took on the trial lawyers, if you want to know what rick perry will do and you look at his success record as governor. he would rein in regulations and cut marginal tax rates. that's what he's done. i would like to see his plans for the federal taxes, but i can pretty much outline what they'd be given his history as governor of texas. he's been very good on size of government, pro-growth policy. some of these guys have track records. some, like cain, doesn't have a track record so he needs a plan to make it clear who and what he is. >> all right. grover norquist, thanks so much and appreciate you taking the time to

, grover, that's an unholy alliance.off and fannie mae. what say you? >> well, several things. congressman wolf for the last four years has been in favor of a significant tax increase. he's endorsed the $2 trillion tax increase that simpson/bowles recommended. so he and i and the republican caucus and i are in a different place than the congressman is. they registered everybody saying that they worked on those two issues. that was ten years ago, and it wasn't actually something i worked on. i think if you -- >> yeah. >> if you have to argue that kind of thing, you're trying to distract people from the reality. >> i mean, ten years ago, grover. >> yeah. >> we were sharing a jail cell in turkey. i mean, obviously, not that relevant. let me ask you, though -- >> he has trouble with tenses. >> i asked frank about a good friend of mine, a guy i loved working with, i asked him about the ten to one question in an earlier debate where i said it was lunacy if the republicans were given a real chance to have $10 in spending cuts f

i've been critical, as grover is, but this is a great debate to have. the question i'd ask, where are the democrats on this? what are we hearing on the other side of the aisle? obama's running around the country saying, you know, soak the rich. that's a tax reform plan? to raise taxes on the rich? i'm just disappointed on this. in the q&a for bill to respond to this, you know, democratic party once was intellectually curious about tax reform. you go back to the mid '80s when we passed the 1986 act, you remember that, kevin. that bill cut the top tax rate to 28% and cleared out a lot of the pollution in the tax system. that bill in the united states senate, remember this, kevin? passed 97-3. 97-3. there was a bipartisan consensus back then. you've got to get rates down, and you've got to broaden the base. i don't think you could get two democrats in the whole house and senate today to vote for a 28% rate. i mean, it's sad to me that the democrats seem to just not be interested in creating a more positive tax reform. tax policy. and sort of the last thing

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we know that most republicans in the senate and the house took an oath to grover norquist before theyk their oath of office. their signed oath to a republican lobbyist, grover norquist, is that they will never raise taxes in any way on anyone at any time under any circumstances. not ever. including taxes on millionaires. taxes on billionaires. and so, yes, every republican in the senate voted against harry reid's july resolution which we properly entitled, sense of the senate of shared sacrifice. senator reid got all republicans in the senate on record as being opposed to collecting anymore revenue in any way from the richest among us who earn more than $1 million a year. senate republicans put themselves on record as being against closing any kind of tax loophole that benefits the super rich or raising their income taxes even by $1. just by $1. that was the genius of harry reid's resolution. it didn't specify how much more we should ask of the people making $1 million. making more than $1 million. just that it should be more. $100? $10? $1,000? $5? it didn't say. the resolution didn'

it's obviously dead on arrival both because conservatives like grover norquist don't like it. you can easily demonize it -- the sales tax component of it as was demonized as a tax on common goods like milk or beer or bread or anything like that. and if herman cain were to get through the primary and into the general election, democrats would likely love this because they can say, you're lowering the personal income tax rates for the wealthiest americans down to 9%. it's a huge giveaway to the wealthy. so this thing is a nice simple gimmick that has vaulted mr. cain up into the ranks of the republican primary election but it's so unserious and so unlikely to pass it's almost a wonder we're spending so much time analyzing it. >> but the wonder of it is it could be the essential plan of the republican front-runner. the wonder of it is that it is popular with republican voters who clearly at this stage don't know what's in it. they're learning more, though. let's watch herman cain's exchange today on "the daily rundown" with chuck todd. it was yesterday with chuck todd. >> the sal

when you have somebody like grover norquist, who, with americans for tax reform, having every candidate sign a pledge that you will not increase revenues -- that is the position right now of the republicans. obama'sin any way, and lack of courage on this, but the position of the rebel against -- position of the republicans is that anything that increases revenues is unacceptable. we are collecting 15% of the gross domestic product in revenues and spending 25%. if you cut it all led back to 21%, you are not going to have an of. -- not going to have enough. he will have a deficit and debt in perpetuity. yes, the leadership has been lacking. >> you said republicans would not sign on. tom coburn is an extremely conservative republican. he was on that committee. in the bowles recommendation, $1.10 trillion strip out of loopholes, meaning money in the treasury, but returned only $1 trillion in tax cuts, meaning he would leave a surplus in the treasury, a tax increase, of $100 billion. coburn signed on to that. any republican offered a deal like that would do it. the problem is, you need a pre

i've been critical of the sales tax, as grover is. but this is a great degit have and where are the democrats on this? obama's running around the country saying, soak the rich, that's the tax reform plan, raise taxes on the rich? it's amazing, i'm just disappointed. in the q& a for bill to respond to this, but the democratic party once was intellectually curious about tax reform. in the 1980's, that bill that cut the top tax rate to 28% and cleared out a lot of the pollution in the tax system bill in the united states senate, remember this, kevin, passed 97-3, 97-3. there was a bipartisan consensus back then. you got to get rates down and broaden the base. i don't think you could get two democrats in the whole house and senate today to vote for a 28% rate. it's sad to me that democrats seem to just not be interested in creating a more positive tax reform, tax policy. the last thing i'll say is it's amazing to me that barack obama when he run for president, he ran on a theme of hope and change. now what it is the party talking about ho

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. >> grover norquist is praising perry's flat tax plan calling it "a good place to be." the ob administration saying that the plan would shift a greater share of tax as way from the wealthiest americans and on to the backs of the middle class. last night perry appeared on fox news to talk about his tax plan. the conversation shifted to his rivalry with mitt romney. perry taking a jab at the former massachusetts governor accusing him of flip-flopping. >> i think in his own words he says, listen, you know, i need to say whatever i need to say for whatever office i'm running for. how do you change at the age of 50 or 60 positions on life, positions on guns? positions on traditional marriage? i mean those aren't minor issues, bill. so to change those at age of 50 or 60 tells you all you need to know about that. >> the republican candidates continue to duke it out. president obama told jay leno last night he's going to keep his distance for now. >> have you been watching the gop debates? >> i'm going to wait until everybody's voted off the island. >> really? >> once they narr

i would hope that people would consider not their pledges to any particular group, whether it be grover norquist or somebody else, but their pledge to uphold their responsibilities as members of congress. as members of congress. that means making tough compromises on both sides. you will not get this done through finding common ground alone. it will have to be a process of give-and-take. you'll have to see if everybody adopts that spirit as we move forward in the weeks ahead. >> it sounds like it has not happened yet. you have not had a conversation in those back rooms, you have not had a situation like this. not had a situation like this. >> the answer is that just as we have had public hearings that go over the big issues, we have been grappling with just getting the facts straight. i think it is important that people agree on a common set of facts before they began to try to put together any particular compromise. this is an ongoing process. again, i think people are working through it in good faith. whether or not the effort to get an agreement is strong enough to overcome some of t

president of the united states to just show how long this has been going on we discovered this in grover cleveland from his state of the union address in eighteen eighty eight he said we discover that the fortunes realized by our manufacturers are no longer solely the reward of sturdy industry and enlightened foresight but that they result from the discriminating favor of the government and are largely built upon undue extractions from the masses of our people the gulf between employers and the employed is constantly widening and classes are rapidly forming one comprising the very rich and powerful all in another upon the toiling poor as we view of the achievements of aggravated aggregated capital we discover the existence of trusts combinations and monopolies the citizen is struggling far in the rear or is trampled to death behind beneath an iron. corporations which should be the carefully restrained creatures of the law and the servants of the people are fast becoming the people's masters. again that was eight hundred eighty eight two years after the first time the supreme court allege

million dollars may disappear from people's plastic in russia by the end of the year the general grover has this account. in the first half of this year russian banks have lost seventy percent more money from illegal credit and debit card operations than in the same period last year and this number is actually very alarming considering that the overall number of operations has increased by just the seven percent first post every day stolen over a billion rubles for a private bank account and the forecast is just to one point four billion more before the end of the year experts say most people here fall victim of skimming a method used by criminals to capture data from my magnetic stripe on the back of a plastic card russian legislation lax measures to effectively fight this type of crime the maximum punishment for scammers here is two years in prison although often they manage to get away industry experts point out another reason and that is the banks attempts to save up on transaction safety special keyboard protectors can cost up to fifty dollars per a.t.m. this and dave could make op