grover and i haven't been in touch much doing this. grover, unfortunately, for him had tremendous scrutiny. all quarters, people seem to get mad at him over the tax thing and blame him for the budget supercommittee business. so he tries to, i think, keep his head down a little bit. so we've not had much contact, um, but i consider him to be a friend, and i haven't been in touch with him, but that's okay, he's got other battles to fight. >> host: what about ralph reed? >> guest: ralph came to the convention i work, i was elected at in 1981 as a very young man, a teenager, and came to work for us, lived in my apartment on the couch. we couldn't afford to pay him more than $100 a month. grover, a harvard mba, was making a thousand a month, and i was making a thousand a month as well, and ralph got $100 a month. so he lived on my couch, he became executive director, eventually had a religious epiphany and went off to then work for pat robertson, ultimately, at christian coalition, built the organization into an incredible operation. ralph

so, grover and i went through that together. after that, grover suggested to me to run for national chairman of college republicans. he had some involvement with carl rove and others in the past and were friends with them. i didn't know anybody. i just come out of california and went to brandeis so grover was my campaign manager and then when i won in 1981, came as my executive director and stayed with me through that year before he went off to do other stuff. he returned with me. we reunited under resident reagan's lobby as field director and then he went off and found americans for tax reform which has been immensely effective. grover and i haven't been in touch much during this. grover unfortunate for him has tremendous scrutiny and all corridors. people seem to get mad at him over the tax thing and blame him for the budget supercommittee business, so he tries to to a thing i think keep his head down a little bit. so we have not had much contact. but, consider and to be a friend and i haven't been in touch with him but that's

this this is really quite extraordinary the militant multi multimillionaire lobbyist grover norquist. calling for the impeachment of the president because he and his rich buddies are the victim yes that's right president we're all a see that's exactly right that's the word that's if that's what they are i don't know if they think something like that sincerely but there's a nuff of that kind of stuff out there in the culture that i'm able to create whole book called pity the billionaire about this you know this phenomenon this is a complete inversion of your usual sort of hard times symbolism ok so do they believe it and are they trying to sell it to average working people and our average working people by and they do believe this goes back to the very beginning of the tea party movement the very beginning of the obama administration they believe that they are the producer class or the job creator class if you will and that the rest of america is essentially some sort of parasites it's this is the all the symbolism from the one nine hundred thirty s. sort of reversed but otherwise it s

be an impeachment instead it would be a coup d'etat and her multi-millionaire republican lobbyist grover norquist stage right this guy's famous for corralling nearly every single republican in congress together to sign his pledge against raising taxes at the end of last week in an interview with the right wing national journal grover norquist called for the impeachment of president obama not for treason or for bribery or for high crimes and misdemeanors not for any real impeachable offense but only because the president must raise taxes on millionaires and billionaires back to where they were during the clinton ministration to thirty nine percent as norquist said obama can sit there and let all the tax cuts lapse and then the republicans will have enough votes in the senate in two thousand and fourteen to impeach again grover norquist is calling for the impeachment of the president of the united states just for making millionaires and billionaires pay their fair share in taxes making millionaires and billionaires pay just thirty nine percent in taxes instead of thirty five percent taxes

the onion who i love they had their news stories and scandalous photos reveal grover norquist carried on secret affair with taxes for years which grover norquist runs for americans for tax reform he's the one who makes already signed the pledge and why nothing gets done in congress because all the republicans are promised they will not do anything that will raise their taxes in any way because grover norquist they've basically promised they would but he was actually kind of cool about this sense that he then played a. wrong and give a press conference take a look. in two thousand and four. drove. for the taxes since. two thousand. at the height of what it's called quote her strongly for the european style. what do you say we don't do we like to do that i mean i think anything for grover norquist anything that can make fun of that shed light on bring attention to the fact that he in his mind taxes are ridiculous he will take part in the onion is a widely read publication the onion t.v. is getting a lot more traction so i think that like you know i guess it's kind of fun to see grover n

grover norquist says that no tax increases under any circumstances.arren buffett says, the wealthy in this country can pay more and they should pay more. indeed, balancing the budget is a way for more economic growth down the line. who knows more about the american economy, grover norquist or warren buffett? >> who knows more about tax policy? the right course for america is not raise taxes on americans. i understand that president obama and people of his political persuasion will like to take more money from the american people, and they want to do that to continue to grow government. and the answer for america is cannot grow government, it is to shrink government. we have been going over the last 40 years, government grows faster than the economy relative to inflation. that is why i have a plan that reduces government spending. i cut programs, all series of programs, and the number one cut is obamacare, that size is $95 billion a year. return the state's whole series of programs, and said how much goes to them, and with regard to entitlement, i do n

welfare no not than you know no infrastructure sorta like lord of the flies right well let newton grover fight over who gets to play piggy nobody wants to pay into the into the into the system nobody wants to make it all work i think it is a perfect opportunity for the republicans to to demonstrate i mean you know one of the big questions one of the comments that's always been made is that there has never been in the history of the world a successful libertarian country there has never been in the history of the world a country that cut its way to prosperity so these guys think they can pull it off stick them on a desert island let them in a lot of do it and we'll let newton grover fight over who gets to play the role pig here on the island. powerball drawings are held every wednesday and saturday night see why you should start playing the lotto if you plan to go to college in the future. let's not forget that we had an apartheid regime right now and. i think. even one well. whenever the government says they're going to keep you safe get ready because you get their freedom. you know some

grover suggested to me to run for the national chair. he had some involvement with karl rove and others in the past and were friends with them. i'd just come out of california and went to brandeis and so grover was my campaign manager and then when mauney won in 1981 came as mike deacons executive director and stayed in that year before he went off to other. he returned with me. we reunited in the lobby he was the field director and then also found the americans for tax reform which was an immensely effective. we haven't been in touch much doing this. unfortunately for him he had tremendous scrutiny. people seemed to get mad at him over the tax thing and blamed him for the kind of budget super kennedy business and so he tries to i think keep his head down a little bit and so we have not had much contact, but consider him to be a friend, and haven't been in touch with him but that's okay because he has other titles to play. >> host: what about ralph reed? >> guest: he came to the convention i was elected in 1981 as a very young man, a tee

grover norquist, andy kramer, and chuck cunningham. thank you for joining us and we will be back with the next panel in a few minutes. thank you. [applause] [captioning performed by national captioning institute] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2012] >> what you are looking at is a live picture from columbia, south carolina, the face -- the headquarters there. we are waiting for mitt romney's arrival to talk to his supporters, in what appears to be a second place finish in the primary there. it has been called by ap, and by all the networks, even though official tally has 7% of the votes in. mr. gingrich is up 37%. mitt romney at 32%. we are waiting for mahdavi for mitt romney to ride. you are watching live coverage here on c-span. after the candidates' speeches, we will open up our phone lines for your reaction to the south carolina finish. you can right now pose a comment on c-span's twitter page or on our facebook page. [crowd chanting "romney! romney !"] >> ladies and gentleman, governor mitt romney and mrs. ann

. >> grover and i met as he was a student at harvard business i was at brandeis. i just became active and then reorganize massachusetts for the rating campaign and worked very hard from those high jinks from the book and as the group favor generous enough to credit us. several thousand and absentees balance so grover and i go through that together some suggested to run for the national chairman and he had some unfurl it -- involvement with carol beck met karl rove. so with my campaign manager i won in 1981 became my executive director so the field director which was immensely effective. and then to have tremendous curtain -- scrutiny. they seem to get mad at him to blame him with the super committee business. so consider them friends and have been in touch with them but that is okay. >> host: what about ralph? >> he came to the convention i was elected 1981 as a teen-ager in lived in my apartment he had no money those days. grover was making with thousand dollars per month that was making that as well. $100 per month so he lived on my couch. he became executive di

you don't have to raise taxes which, of course, makes grover froth at the mouth and all his minutesons. you just go into the tax code and say let's get rid of these tax expenditures. they are $1.1 trillion a year. home interest deduction, $1 million. second homes -- no. we said, get it down to $500,000, then give it 12.5% nonrefundable tax credit. that helps the little guy everybody talks about. charitable deduction. give a 12.5% nonrefundable tax credit. and then go in and look at the rest of the stuff. you won't believe what's in there. parking for employees, blue cross insurance, oil and gas. i've trampled on my own sacred cows to do that pitch. but you have to -- it has to be self-sacrifice and know that this country is going broke. >> are you resigned to the fact that nothing is likely to happen on your proposal and the ideas around it until the election, or do you think that there's still a possibility in the next year something can happen? >> we'll see what happens. but every day that goes by, this is like a stink bomb in a garden party. as they're eating tea cookies and saying

they can pull it off stick them on a desert island let them in a lot of do it and we'll let newton grover fight over who gets to play the role pig here on the island. powerball drawings are held every wednesday and saturday night see why you should start playing the lotto if you plan to go to college in the future. let's not forget that we had an apartheid regime right now and. i think. even one well. whenever the government says they're going to keep you safe get ready because you get their freedom. you know sometimes you see a story and it seems so you think you understand it and then you glimpse something else you hear or see some other part of it and realize everything you saw you don't know i'm tom hardy welcomes the big picture. after their victory in concession speeches tonight the cadence will leave new hampshire and head down to south carolina and what they'll be leaving behind in new hampshire is a lot of college graduates saddled in enormous debt we're talking massive amounts of debt all around the nation student loan debt is a huge problem with the average graduate racking up

first of all we have grover norquist, president of the americans for tax reform right down here. we have karen floyd, former chairman of the south carolina republican party. also she is publisher of palladium do. and that's palladian view.com, especially the legs out there would like to check that out. then we have to my left in the cramer. she's the chairman of the tea party express. and we have chuck who is joint is from the nra. i believe rove is going to start for us this afternoon. >> there are two teams in american politics. and in the past, you know, there were two parties and somebody told you they were republican 100 is ago or 50 years ago, all you really knew about them was that they were more north -- born north of the mason dixie line. the two parties were regional. they weren't ideological. they weren't based on principles. something if you met a republican or democrat you didn't know if they were for higher taxes or lower taxes or more spend our listing on whether foreign policy was. you simply knew where they were born. and that was about it. but it was during the

grover norquist, we are on tv now.e doesn't stop. >> first, though, other stories. christine romans has those stories for us. >> grover norquist talks tax snes thanks, soledad. the prime still a week away but voting has already began. early voting began statewide over the weekend. officials say 53,000 ballots were cast. about 180,000 absentee ballots have been cast. >>> washington state legalize same-sex. legislature now has the votes to pass the measure. washington to be the 7th state and the district of columbia to let gay and lesbian webs wed. >>> oil embargo won't work. they say they're confident they can find new markets for their oil. the eu embargo part of sanctions to pressure iran to resuming talks on that country's nuclear program. >>> doctors say illinois nor mark kirk is expected to make a full mental recovery from a stroke he suffered over the weekend but could have paralysis in his arm and leg. kirk you may recall was elected to fill the illinois senate seat left vacant by president obama. >>> the stronge

grover norquist or warren buffett? >> well, who knows more about tax policy?ure wre going to choose from the two of them. but i can tell you this the right course for america i not to raise taxes on americans. i understand that president obama and people of his political persuasion would like to take more money from the american people. and they want to do that so they can continue to grow government. but the answer for americas not to grow government, it is to shrink government. we've been going over the last 20, 30, 40 years, governmen keeps growing at a faster rate relative to inflation. we've got to stop the extraordina spending in this country. that's why i put out a plan that reduces vernment spending, i cut -- iut programs, a whole series of programs, by the way the number one cut is obama care. that saves $95 billn a year. just asick indicated, return to states a whole series of programs, foodstamps, housing vouchers, medicaid and set how muchoes to the and finally with regard to entitlement, i do not want change medicare and social security for curren

grover norquist or warren buffett? >> well, who knows more about tax policy?ing to choose from the two of them. but i can tell you this the right course for america is not to raise taxes on americans. i understand that president obama and people of his political persuasion would like to take more money from the american people. and they want to do that so they can continue to grow government. but the answer for america is not to grow government. it is to shrink government. we've been going over the last 20, 30, 40 years, government keeps growing at a faster rate relative to inflation. we've got to stop the extraordinary spending in this country. that's why i put out a plan that reduces government spending, i cut -- i cut programs, a whole series of programs, by the way the number one cut is obama care. that saves $95 billion a year. just as rick indicated, return to states a whole series of programs, food stamps, housing vouchers, medicaid, and then set how much goes to them. and finally with regard to entitlement, in the entitlement area, i do not want to cha

the gop tax-free ring leader grover norquist. obama condition sit there and let all the tax cuts lapse and then the republicans will have enough votes in the senate in 2014 to impeach. impeach? impeach the president for disagreeing with your policies? they are doing anything to disgrace this president. and i find it truly appalling. joining me now is msnbc analyst richard wolffe and david corn, msnbc political analyst and mother jones washington bureau chief. thanks to both of you for being here tonight. >> thanks, reverend. >> sure thing. >> richard, let me start with you. can you believe how low they're going? >> sadly, i can, yes, reverend. this has been going on for a very long time. and your opener was right in the sense that you linked together the strengths of the president with the sort of edge of these attacks because what we saw from day one was an arc straighted campaign of vilifcation of this president. he won big. he won in states that democrats didn't normally win in, and the strategy, the explicit strategy of mitch

i was interviewing grover norquist. >> stephen: i've had him on. >> who is the man behind the no taxdge and he was going on and on about the estate tax and why it's a terrible thing. >> stephen: the test tax. >> which he calls the death tax and i was thinking there's too many statistics, it's dull, radio isn't good for statistics so i was thinking what am i going to ask him, what should i do with the interview? and suddenly i thought i heard him say that the morality of the death tax was like the morality of the holocaust and i thought whoa, did he they that? did i juster that? did that happen. >> stephen: that's a wakeup call. >> it's a wakeup call and so i actually said to him, excuse me, did you actually compare the holocaust to the estate tax? >> stephen: and he said? >> he said "no, i compared the morality of the death tax..." >> stephen: i'm not saying we're actually killing jews but it's very similar. (laughter) >> millions of lives, millions of dollars. >> stephen: exactly. exactly. they both have faces on them. (laughter) he's got a point. he's got a point. you went after pr

you go back to grover cleveland. this is all happened. but this is -- [everyone talking at once] >> if you are making as part of your politics, which newt gingrich absolutely does, that you are a social conservative, you stands for these values, then i think it's -- otherwise i say we should stay out -- [everyone talking at once] >> as he did lead the republicans to power in washington. he's seen . and people are still resisting mitt romney, and what is it was the republican governor of nebraska who sent to do with that. [everyone talking at once] >> of the woman voter is the man voter and the instance when the sociology reports that women cheat as much as men do. >> there's a lot of -- [everyone talking at once] >> south carolina governor nicky haley fought back those kinds of charges, and the voters clearly said no, they were not interested in that. and -- democrats supported bill clinton and -- earlier point -- [everyone talking at once] >> feels like a cheap shot. appears as a late shot by abc and cheap shot in bringing this up. altho

grover norquist from americans for tax reform. nra. thank you for joining us and we will be back with the next panel in a few minutes. thank you. [applause] >> walked into the hotel lobby, not general mcchrystal are the first time. he looked at me and said come and see where the "rolling stone" guy. i don't care about the article. i just want to be on the cover. i said well, sir, i think it's between you and lady god god. general mcchrystal replied just put me in lady god god in a heart shape to. i thought this is a different kind of general with a different kind of story. >> it would be intolerable if a handful of violent people, and that is what it is coming just a handful could hardness against needing change. i seen an uglier violence to in a perverse the very experience of america. i thought the republican expressing governor rockefeller was shouted down. i thought in minneapolis with a man whom i disagree was heckled into silent and happened to me in philadelphia. we must give notice to this violent few. there is millions of

plus years there's in fact there's this whole project was funded by a bunch of very wealthy people grover norquist heads it up the reagan legacy project one of their one of their explicit goals in addition to rewriting all the history about reagan or glossing over things like what you just saw is to make sure that in every county in america at least one building gets named after ronald reagan or one statue of gets put up when you look at his actual record he was he was no god he accounted for much of the destruction we see in our economy today and the few good things that he did today's republicans would be running away from. the republican candidates for president try to outdo each other over who's more like ronald reagan or at least the mythical ronald reagan was consummate governor scott walker's actually emulating reagan's legacy of busting up unions thirty years after reagan fired all the unionized air traffic controllers at co walker tried to dismantle public employee unions in wisconsin and go in so well for. more than a million signatures were collected to recall him from office a

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half hour tonight host tom hartman will go into detail about multimillionaire republican lobbyist grover norquist supplant to impeach president obama the crimes against the one percent and then later he'll give a round up of the occupy wall street movement after a tumultuous weekend of protests so he better stick around about for us that will do it for now for more on the stories we covered go to our t. don't calm usa and there you'll find my full interview with independent journalist who has been following the occupy wall street movement since it all started back on september seventeenth and he told me about what he's experienced as a journalist covering this movement also you should check out our youtube page we put almost all of our interviews and segments on there the address for that is you tube dot com slash r t america has to find out what i'm doing when i'm not on the air you can follow me on twitter at christine for is out hope you have a great night and we'll be back here tomorrow at four pm. oh she was that so much of an interview to be sitting on the board when we blockade th

quote carefully restrained creatures of the law and servants of the people and quote that president grover cleveland said they should be we especially our politicians are quickly becoming the servants of the corporations the president has less than sixty days to make a decision in the case keystone x.l. pipeline republicans who are owned by the oil barons have even started up a countdown clock to remind him and so he makes the right decision the decision he was elected to make by we the people and doesn't bow to the unelected oil barons who think they get whatever they want america now that they can spend as much money as they'd like in our elections. do what's right mr president and the rest of us will do what's right and fight back against corporate personhood and the citizens united decision that made it possible for these oil barons to threaten a sitting president of the united states and corporate personhood now go to move to amend or. that's the big picture for tonight for more information on the stories we covered visit our website to tom hartman dot com free speech dot org an r t d

ever pushed for it on the contrary many presidents have condemned it and going all the way back to grover cleveland in eight hundred eighty seven the year after the santa clara county decision in the supreme court where he said that corporations had become the masters of the people and that their iron heel was on our neck in his state of the union address in eight hundred eighty seven as obama mentioned in his state of the union address in twenty ten when he called out the supreme court for the citizens united case and sam alito said there and sat there and mouth not true when president obama predicted exactly what has happened over the last two years this explosion of corporate money and billionaire money coming into our political system and wreaking absolute avick. this money power which has taken over congress we must take back and the only way we're going to take it back is through movement politics it's not going to happen through the political parties they're captive of all this money right now politicians democratic and republican a republican would love to not have to spend thirty