grover?> her policies are the policies of donald trump that got him elected. >> grover. >> she was right there the whole way. >> grover. >> she's going to be the difference maker. >> you look like john now. go ahead, grover. >> i don't know ivanka or how that's going to play out. i tend to trust that trump has laid out a list of things he wants to do and i think his agenda has been fairly helpful and it's moving forward a lot faster than you normally expect. >> okay. >> from a president. >> i got to go. bakari, blame john fredericks. he took your time. he took your time. all right. thank you very much. you guys like that. took your time. took your time. >>> we come back, the worldwide consequences of the rocky relationship between russia and the u.s. i can box out any muscle or joint pain immediately. blue-emu continuous pain relief spray, it works fast and you won't stink. i've got a nice long life ahead. big plans. so when i found out medicare doesn't pay all my medical expenses, i got a me

david: grover norquist not leaving any room for doubt. grover norquist. good to see you. melissa. melissa: we have breaking news for you right now. authorities responding to a possible bomb threat at a va hospital in dallas forcing precautionary evacuations. you're looking at the scene right there. we'll bring you more news about this as it comes in. in the meantime, fulfilling key campaign promises running the government like a business. senior advisor to president trump jared kushner, heading up the new american office for innovation, staffed by corporate executives that will report directly to commander-in-chief. kevin and carol are back. this is the holy grail, the ever-evasive government will be more efficient. we'll find a way. it will be less ludicrous and make more sense. i don't know, do you have any hope for this one? >> i actually do have hope for this despite all the bureaucrats are trying to protect their jobs. one reason why the gao came out with a report, that the defense department is using computers from the '70s as well as floppy disk for our nuclear arsenal. mel

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david: grover, thank you very much. appreciate it. grover norquist. melissa. melissa: we breaking news right now. a train reportedly colliding with a charter bus in biloxi, mississippi. this is according to officials. witnesses saying the bus appeared stuck on the tracks. and the oncoming train hit the bus on the roadside. officials are confirming fatalities. emergency crews are in the midst of removing passengers through emergency windows. wow. a witness speaking with local media saying the bus was filled with senior citizens. david: oh. melissa: we'll bring you pictures and latest as we learn more going forward here. >>> meantime president trump is sitting down with the head of the afl-cio, richard trumka to talk infrastructure and getting rid of nafta at the white house. we'll bring you headlines and video of that as well as soon as it comes in. david: in the meantime, speaking to this point, wilbur ross, u.s. commerce secretary under president trump, joining us live. secretary ross, great to call you that. thanks for coming in. >> thanks for having me. dav

than you did, grover, and that's a fact.king about the retail ice age, terrible results about how many games they're actually selling in their bricks and mortar operation. stock is down 12%. and then we have twitter, they are considering paid subscriptions, just considering it. not quite sure how it would work, but they're considering paid subscriptions. the stock's up 2%. how about apple? that new red iphone being launched today. some of the money from each sale goes towards hiv/aids research and relief efforts. apple's 141 as of right now. i think that's close to the all-time high. >>> senate minority leader chuck schumer says democrats will filibuster to block the gorsuch nomination to the supreme court. we'll talk to david keene about that, he's the former president of the nra. the nra supports judge gorsuch. we'll also talk about doctors who ask about your guns when you go for a visit. a federal court recently ruled in favor of this. we'll be back. ♪ ♪ stuart: congressman devin nuÑes, he's the chair of the house intelli

but we have seen them make this mistake before. >> so there's the reaction, grover.tially being able to win over some republicans that were worried this was just obamacare 2.0. a massive new entitlement. but what about those like senator tom cotton from arkansas, tate states that hav benefitted from the medicaid expansion and are worried about the effect on republicans in the 2018 midterms? >> one of the most important things you can look at is how successful bill clinton's block granting of welfare was. there was an effort then to say -- google clinton welfare reform quotations. you'll get all the same people who are now attacking block granting medicaid. said the exact same things about block granting welfare. it turns out they were 180 degrees wrong on welfare. very clear why. what we had was under medicaid top down, one rule, 50 states, everyone lives under the same rule. with 50 different states taking 50 different approaches on welfare and states, states can do everything to require a work requirement for medicaid. if you have single men, a lot of whom get medi

grover: if you don't have the border adjustable, you have two problems.cit 11 to have itr happen inside reconciliation and therefore only need 51 vote in the senate but still be permanent, trump and the republicans do not want another cut.rary bush tax they want a permanent tax cut. everybody wants permanent, which is why it has to be within 51 votes. deficit neutral in year 11 and out. that is why the $1 trillion raised by the border adjustable allows you to do this in the deficit neutral in the future but it is also how you parts of a lot of the the tax code you are trying to police where and when and how people recognize income. companies would recognize income in one country or another and you have to have all sorts of difficult efforts to police that. you don't need that with the border adjustable tax. we go to a territorial system and you can earn money overseas and bring it back without penalty. two things would have to be replaced. the $1 trillion in a decade and how you move to a territorial system. coming up with an alternative to the border adj

. >> joining me now is grover norquist, he is the president for americans for tax reform.u. >> good to be with you. >> do you think it's possible for tax reform, the biggest one since ronald reagan to quote the vice president, to be passed? >> the answer is yes, by undermining the president's health care reforms, it takes a trillion dollars of taxes that should have been gone. the freedom caucus owes the american people a trillion dollars by undermining the president's health care bill. now you're looking at a strong tax reform commitment both by the republican and the democratic caucus, they're taking the correspondeporate ras the highest in the world, at 45%s so all new investment goes into immediately expense, rather than over a longer period of time, it takes the individual rates down to three rates, it increases the family and death exemptions, it gets rid of the emt. it's stronger pro growth policies stronger than reagan in 1980 and more than 2% growth which is what we have right now. >> congressman chuck schumer had this to say about president trump's bill. >> they

let's discuss, grover norquist is here cnn's senior economic analyst.of saving capitalism for the many, not the few. perfect two guests to discuss this, gentlemen, thank you so much. the cbo, congressional budget office, analyzed this new gop health plan here's what they estimate, 14 million more people would be uninsured by next year. fwlz a $337 billion in deficit savings in there, from 2017 to 26. i know you like the savings part, what about the amount of uninsured? >> they were off by 24 million when the cbo told us how many people obama care would cover. today there would be 22 million changes. the cbo has not a good record on those predictions. what was big today and what your conversation so far has missed completely. is the cbo just scored this plan, the trump paul ryan obama care repeal and beginning of reform, they scored this as deficit -- as decreasing the deficit. and that means that it can be passed with 51 votes in the senate. the only thing the cbo score, in the whole thing, the only numbers that matter are 1.2 trillion in spending over

question about it, but i think we're in another situation because people who signed this agreement with grover norquist who i don't know, they will support no increase in taxes no matter what. and on the other hand, i don't know how you're going to be able to real tax cuts unless there are some taxes that are lowered while at the same time others end up paying their fair part. but that would be viewed by mr. norquist, i guess, as a tax increase. neil: we'll watch closely. we'll watch closely. congressman, i always reach you taking the time. thank you very much. >> good to be with you. neil: congressman emanuel cleaver joining us out of kansas city. we have an update on providence here. and you know, the people exercising their american right after this. i joined the army in july of '98. our 18 year old was in an accident. when i call usaa it was that voice asking me, "is your daughter ok?" that's where i felt relief. we're the rivera family, and we will be with usaa for life. i just had to push one button wto join.s thing is crazy. it's like i'm in the office with you, even though i'm here. it

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remember grover norquist said he wanted to make government so small you could drown it in a bathtub.government has disappeared. there's no government to drown in the bathtub because nothing is filled in the first place. it's very worrisome that there are so few people who can relate to trump. you have priebus chief of staff but doesn't have the power to stand up to the president. >> the president had a meeting with the freedom caucus before the vote and said you have no choice but to vote for this. i can see a bunch of white men offended by this one white guy telling them you have no choice but to vote for this and there was rebelling at the notion you would tell us we have no choice to tell us we have no choice but to vote for it and that's not how you get it pads. -- passed. they're in safe districts where obamacare is unpopular and they want to repeal the whole bill. they're not suffering backlash. the moderates who will vote against it they're in real trouble. they were going to cast a vote that would potentially imperil them. one part of the conversation lost was not just republ

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grover norquist is here. we will walk through the tax package that we are expecting this year, plus the present of the chicago federal reserve, charles added is here. the first time the fed is speaking out since the move in interest rates last week. we want to hear what charles evans has to say about the move in interest rates is dean. our top stories fbi dirt james comey to testify in front of the committee on allegations including russia's involvement to the u.s. presidential election and donald trump's wiretapping claim. yesterday house intelligence committee devin nunes and senator ted cruz address expectations ahead of the hearing. watch. >> we are excited about this because for the first time the american people and all the political parties are paying attention to the threat that russia poses. we are going to highlight that. will highlight the fact we know the russians were trying to get involved in our campaign that you have for many decades. they're also trained to get involved in campaigns around th

grover, thanks for joining us. very important day and important time.hank you for being with us. >> thank you. stuart: yes, sir. politics and money, that's what we do. so, that was politics and here is the money guy, charles payne is here. i want your comment on the current state of the market. i think-- i see that-- i think it just wants to go up, what say you? >> yeah, here is an interesting thing, we had an eight-day sing streak and barely lost 3%. stuart: 2%. >> it wants to go up and why does it want to go up. lost in political talk is real concrete evidence that this economy is turning around and in a central place, manufacturing. yesterday, we had a manufacturing report out from the richmond federal reserve that was amazing. stuart: i don't know about you, but i completely missed it. >> i went through the whole thing. really? >> it was absolutely amazing. capacity utization, the plants that we don't use, all that have space, went to the highest level since april of 2010. i mean, we're taking the cobwebs down, we're heating up these engines again a

to listen to you if you want to explain how all the problems in american society are the fault of grover cleveland? [laughter] that will not get you much of an audience. if you can tell people that all the problems in our society or in our politics are the fault of abraham lincoln, you have attention. there is a tabloid aspect of this criticism, but there are interesting things to be said and it pays to investigate it. that is my shout out. you are very welcome. you can send a check. [laughter] of other a number books which deal with some aspects. merle peterson's great book on lincoln talks about the anti-lincoln tradition. aremember there had been number of other essays written in a don't want to get into giving the stand up bibliography, but the reading is unusual. one of the most depressing species of this was a book man" writtenln the by edgar lee masters, better known as a great american poet and the author of "the spoon river" anthology, which has a palm of an rep. lynch: -- which ledge.poem of anne rut it is a 300 page plus collection hurled at the image of lincoln, but skillfull

-- grover cleveland? oft will not give you much an audience. but if you can tell the people that all the problems in our of the and politics abraham lincoln, you have attention. there was a tabloid aspects. thingsre are interesting to be said, and i think it pays to investigate them. so that is my shout out, and you are very welcome. and there are a number of other books that deal with some aspects of this. the great book on lincoln in s aboutn memory also talk the anti-lincoln tradition. there have been a number of essays written on this. the reading of them is unusual, to say the least. i think one of the most wasessing species of this the book called "lincoln the man ," written by edward lee masters, author of the "spoon river anthology," which has plenty of wonderful points. on that basis, we might think masters was greatly enamored. paradesthe man is a 300 -- 300 page plus collection of the tree all hurled at -- vitriol hurled at lincoln. and it was by someone who knew how to write. thank you very much. [applause]

later today on "bloomberg markets," 1:30 eastern, americans for tax reform president and founder grover us with his thoughts on the president's tax plans and what they could mean for markets. mark: still ahead on "bloomberg markets," big changes at bridgewater. the billionaire founder stepping down by april, according to a post on linkedin. he will remain the hedge fund co-chief investment officer. david mccormick will move over into the co-chief executive role. eileen marie replacing dalio. john rubinstein will be leaving the firm. much, much more on this story ahead. this is bloomberg. ♪ vonnie: the private equity in the street is the most bullish it has been in a long time. these other words of the carlyle group co-ceo and cofounder david subenstein, who says trump' policies have many feeling optimistic. reason people the are excited about it is they feel there will be less regulation of private equity. the animus some people have to private equity might not be there. don't like private equity, they think private equity people don't do great things, and they feel we aren't as good as

we'll talk about el-moe, grover and the game. they got a new friend on sesame street. >> they do and she's bringing awareness to a very important issue. >> do you like to jump a lot? >> jump, jump, jump, jump. >> still ahead at 4:00. how this 4-year-old muppet with autism is changing television for children just like her. >> plus calming influence. next at influence, the breast-feeding benefit that could impact the young child behavior. >> all new at 5:00. stabbed over and over and left to die. tonight we get an update on duke, just days after he was found on the side of the road. >>> turns out if you're allergic to one type of nut, you might still be able to eat other kinds of nuts. researchers followed 109 people allergic to a specific nut like walnuts, almonds or cashews. some of them people did have a sensitivity to other nuts, but half of those patients had no reaction when they ate them. for instance, very few people allergic to peanuts ended up being allergic to tree nuts. >> more good news about breast-feeding. it could m

>> we had grover norquist on the show yesterday, he talked about it.n it yesterday afternoon. we could be talking about 28% all over again. that was the number we talked about for the past five, six years under president obama, which was a non-starter then. to me, part of it was pointing out the irony of where we may very well be given the expectations, or the high expectations we've had over the past couple of months, which have buoyed the market and taken air out of it as we've seen over the last couple of days. >> what's coming up on "squawk box"? >> here's what we got. we'll talk markets, talk politics, judd gregg will join us, mark grant will join us. he's been bearish -- he's been bullish with a bit of bearish. we'll talk about where he is jeff green is on the show. sir peter westmacott. who you may know. >> i don't know him personally. >> then we will talk russia. a little russia action. general keith alexander will join us. so, we have a lot of stuff on tap here. >> andrew, did you know the russian market, best performing emerging market in 201

people have this idea, grover has talked about this, hiring is a database that you're only allowed to hire from all it is is when you click the social security name, date, birth for a new hire, you are just check online and make sure the person is looking at you is aligned to you is not lying to your face. that's all it is. >> i have a political question. i think it's fair to say that for a very long time within, the influence of employers who are e-verify skeptical, would you say that influence has waned? >> absolutely. once there was a court decision, supreme court upheld local and state e-verify rules based on, as a precondition for having a business license, you had to use e-verify. a number of states, south carolina and others have. once the supreme court upheld that, the chamber of commerce got together with one of the groupsstrictionist lobb , and they wrote in e-verify bill together. housen passed the judiciary committee. if that on the left especially, that the political problem with e-verify is not that people are against it. the chamber of commerce is for. president obama w

half of the hiring decisions last year were screened through e-verify and people have this idea, grover has talked about this as a hiring, a database that you're only allowed to hire for. all it is is when you collect the social security name, date of birth information from a new hire, which you're doing for social security and irs, you just check online and make sure the person that you're looking at isn't lying to your face. that's all it is. verifying the information that you're going to be sending in social security with social security. >> mark, i have a political question on this, which is, you know, so i think it's fair to say for a very long time, within, particularly, republican lawmakers, the influence of employers who are e-verify skeptics is strong. would you say the influence has waned? >> absolutely. once, there's a supreme court decision upheld local an state e-verify rules based on, as a precondition for having a business license, you had to use e-verify. south carolina and other states. once the supreme court upheld that, the chamber of commerce actually got together. t

i guess what i'm asking, whether it's rose cleveland that served with her brother, grover cleveland in quasi capacity until he got married. we had a history of this thing without doing great harm to our constitution or country. what is the big deal? >> there is no big deal. again, let's go back to the democrat thing doesn't apply to us. anna roosevelt served as her father's personal assistant. there was no issue there. the funny thing about this issue, ivanka was operating under a good faith agreement with the white house. the left got enraged because they didn't like her being involved. so she said, okay. that's fine. i'll become a white house employee. a federal employee. i'll do the necessary paperwork, the background checks, the security clearances and i won't get paid. yet still not enough. >> neil: what would be wrong if she was part of a kitchen cabinet. richard nixon's brother had a role. there are advisors that they talk to without any official capacity. what would have been the difference there? >> it's my understanding that family members can't serve in the cabinet. serving

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there is a guy we both know, grover norquist, who used to be an advocate for the leave us alone coalitionthey all believe government should leave us alone. that's not working anymore, because the social fabric is too afraid. too many families are broken up. opiate addiction is to rampant. you can't just leave people alone anymore. republicans have to adjust and say i have my method to help people, and it's not going to be what the democrats want, but it will help people to solidify the social fabric and access to the job market. bob: do you think republicans and the president made a mistake by beginning with health care reform?king to tax they did not start with infrastructure. they didn't start with some of the more populist items. david: right. i would have started with infrastructure. bipartisan support is so important in an early administration. and also, have you looked around at american history for the last 20 years? pretty much every administration has ended up bitten on the rear. administration after administration, the first selection of policy is a product of hubris. george w.

grover norquist is with us.a team constantly on this program and grover is on our a team and we are happy to have him on the show. let's talk tax cuts because we had steve mnuchin on this program 24 hours ago saying we are going to get the tax cuts signed by august of this year, at that point the stock went up a little bit more. do you agree? can we get a tax cut done by august? >> can we? yes. it is made much more possible by the president's very strong showing and sort of state of the union address. he made it clear he was focused on repealing the obamacare taxes and reforming healthcare and getting the tax bill done by focusing on those, talk about other things, and about immigration, there were other issues, not the ones they should do now and the focus on obamacare on repealing reform healthcare and the tax-cut really put some room behind the office of the president and the house had. >> you prefer tax cut first, then deal with obamacare. that would be your preference. >> not my preference because obamacare

and people have this idea, grover has talked about this as a hiring, as a database that you're only allowed to hire. from all it is when you collect the social security, name, date of birth and information from a new hire, which you're doing anyway for purposes of social security and irs, that you just check online and make sure that the person you're looking at isn't lying to your face. that's all it is. it's verifying the information that you're going to be sending in to social security with social security. >> mark, i have a political question on this, which is so i think it's fair to say that for a very long time, within predictably among republican lawmakers, the influence of employers who are e-verify skeptical has been very, very strong would. you say that influence has waned? >> oh, absolutely. once there was a court decision, supreme court upheld local and state e-verify rules based on as a precondition for having a business license, you had to use e-verify. once the supreme court upheld that, the u.s. chamber of commerce got together with numbers usa, one of the main restrictionis

that grover norquit phrase, "put government in the bathtub and let it drown." real hatred of the government. trump does not have that. but he has embraced the ideology of paul ryan, because ryan and mcconnell, they seem to understand how government works and donald trump is such a rookie. he has gone along with them. the question i have as a reporter, and i am sure many people do in the country, is what now? it has not worked to go along with speaker ryan on health care. will he continue to go along with ryan and mcconnell on taxes and infrastructure? or will he listen more to steve bannon, his chief strategist, and take a more populist direction, work with democrats? democrats are not exactly jumping at the chance to work with him. charlie: where does that leave him? robert: in a very difficult position. a new president who does not fully understand yet all the different power dynamics within his own party. a democratic party that is digging in the same way republicans did in the obama era. still testy, many democrats i speak to about the obama era and the way

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altercations like this rarely result in the filing of new criminal charges, it will be up to deputy groverine what happened and how to prevent further problems. >> so what was happening up in your mod? >> what do you mean? >> we came up and talked to you, something had happened, something was going on. what had happened? >> the only thing i can think of is my bungee had a couple of black eyes. >> tell me about that. >> i can't really talk about it. >> we kind of talked about it a little bit before this and we had a little bit of an idea. do you want to elaborate on that at all? not at all? okay. fair enough. at some point you're probably going to be served with another jail violation. going to be for fighting in jail. >> oh, wow. >> obviously you and your cellie had an altercation at some point. nobody is deemed the aggressor yet or the victim yet. two men are locked in a cell and somebody has injuries. there obviously has been a fight. so it is not the end of the -- not the end of the world for you. >> i understand. >> you should get your notice of violation. sergeant will call you out, c

our jenny joyce there on the scene in pens grover with what we know. jenny, good morning. >> reporter: good morning, karen, that's right. the driver took off after ramming into the fence and the home here on this property. the four passengers, who were also in that vehicle, are cooperating with police. the accident happened around 1:30 this morning. according to officers, pennsgrove police were trying to pull the driver over, but the car would not stop. at some point, it lost control, went off the road, and plowed into the fence here on east line streetment took out a chunk of the home, into the basement. carney's point police the next town over responded to the accident scene, according to police, the driver, again, had four passengers, in the vehicle, three females, one male, one female was transported to the hospital with minor injuries. people who live in the home say they're okay. they tell us this is not the first time that someone has lost control and driven up onto their property. the property owner's son says this is the house he grew up in, h

and thought that was odd, we have leah grover, a chicago writer who spent more than one night calculatingn her home she could build fake walls to hide immigrants facing deportation. doctor, are these serious? >> well, they're serious for these people, if you take them at face value. and i'll take you to the school of psychiatry for a second. what are all of these folks talking about? and i've read many more. they're all about having no personal power. they're all about being helpless. hurdling through space. even the walls that this woman speaks of building, she says they're fake walls. okay. well, here's the thing. i think that these folks are actually people who were cleaved from their atomy by the prior administration and don't know anymore that when you're faced with someone with whom you disagree. when there are politics, they're in very much the direction that you don't agree with. what you do is you fight back. you come up with your own ideas. you're never at a loss for authority if you have faith and the willingness to express yourself and take chances if you have courage. these f

i do a great grover. now i am getting closer. >> jimmy: yes.y, i wouldn't even dare. >> jimmy: yeah, that's too high. wait, i want to hear about the baby-sitting story. >> no, no, she genuinely -- she was my -- when she was coretta scott, she baby-sat for me and my siblings in yellow springs, ohio. >> jimmy: isn't that amazing. >> i met her when she -- when i was an adult and she was a good friend of a producer of a play i was in and she remembered me very fondly. >> jimmy: oh, i love that. >> apparently i was not that hard to take care of. >> jimmy: you're a good boy. then the watercolor thing. i can see you. you're an artist. >> yeah. >> jimmy: did you get taught? are you professionally taught? did you have a private teacher? >> when i started out, i wanted to be a painter. i wanted to avoid being an actor. i grew up in a theater family. i didn't want to go into the family business. but by now it's merely dwindled into these little hobbies, but i will tell you one thing. >> jimmy: yes. >> since i paint, since i paint portraits of pets, i've d

>> this is something you hear paul ryan say, and anti-tax advocas like grover norquist arguing that this has somehow imperiled tax reform. i think tax reform was always going to be complicated and you have broad agreement that rates need to come down for individuals and the code needs to be flattened out and reforming the tax code itself is an enormously complicated process and if they really can't get their act together to march in lockstep on an issue that they have promised to complete for voters for the last seven years, i don't see how tax reform is going to be much easier. >> quick thoughts from you, tara? >> i would have to agree with him on that. no one's been able to reform tax -- the tax code in over three decades. so what makes him think that they'll be able to do that now especially when you're seeing such a fractured party and there's very little agreement on tax code right now and they were hoping to get some momentum and juice from the health care repeal to move forward on tax code. so without that, i think it will be an even tougher battle, and i think if trump doesn't st

there is a guy in town who i'm sure we both know named grover norquist who used to be an advocate for something called the leave us alone coalition. >> that's right. >> where all conservatives agreed disagreed on things but agreed government should leave us alone. but that's not working any more. the social fabric is too fraid. too many people lack the skills to get jobs, too many families have broang up, opoid addiction is too rampant. you can't just leave people alone any more. republicans have to adjust and say i've got my method to help people along. ople access to the new jobveid market. >> you think republicans and president trump may have made a mistake by beginning with health care, looking to tax reform, they didn't start with infrastructure, they didn't start with some of the more populist sides of his campaign. >> that's my letdown on steve bannon. i would have started with infrastructure. a you get a chance for bipartisan support and that's so important early in an administration. and b, have you looked around at american political history for the last 20 years, clinton, o

use that grover norquist phrase, put government in a bathtub and let it drown. a real hatred of the government. trump doesn't have that but he embraced the ideology of ryan because ryan and mcconel and the senate, majority leader seem to understand how government works. and trump is such a rookie at this in many ways. he is on the scene. he's gone along with them. the question i have as a reporter, i'm sure many people do out in the country is what now. >> rose: also this evening robert draper has a fascinating

if he is willing to screw over veterans or try this grover veterans in the middle of a present campaign, what has he been to me nobody is looking? that was the genesis of months and months of coverage after that. bill: how many organizations did you try to track down? 450.d: fo trump over the years have promised a number of times to give money out of his own pocket to charity. he had this weird dichotomy. he was telling people he was so rich that he can even use more money. that was the first line in "the art of the deal." on the other hand, he was always asking you for or tv show or what have you. he said i would always give the money to charity. trump university, he rented a tent to gaddafi, he gave it all to charity. we tried to figure out did he actually do that? do you give the money to charity like he promised he would? that is what the 50 calls were. i try to find the charity event most likely got the money from him and i called to see whether they had gotten a personal check. bill: and? david: between 2009 and 2015, i could find one gets out of his own pocket and i was less than

the time he brought that up as a year or two ago. >> grover, when i got to market participants, everyoneorried that yes tom has incredibly ambitious plans. but washington is washington. the establishment will protect itself and make it more difficult than the president thinks. what could you say? is this going to happen? >> leader mitch mcconnell, speaker ryan. the president of the room with two people in the same direction he wants to go that they got the same numbers and structures. he's not going to have the pushback that bush had. he didn't have republican house and senate for almost half his presidency. reagan never had both houses of the legislature. it is a big deal that you have a house have a house and senate that wants to go in the same direction you do. it makes it very likely that can happen in. maria: do you think we will see a border adjustment tax in the final plan, that this is a huge tax cut? >> the whole package is a huge tax reduction. it raises revenue but is much more than offset by taking the corporate rate from 35 to 20. individual from 3320. this is a huge tax cut