the beautiful gown, susan, was founded by george cleveland who is actually at this event. he's the grandson of grover. his sister anne and also marian cleveland cohen, they found the actual dress that actually exist, the wedding dress that actually exist in the white house collection at the first ladies smithsonian. a powerful display and how elegant she was and people certainly, you know, learned from history from that. >> but there was an enormous age difference between the two. >> absolutely. >> how does the family process that piece of information. >> you know, i think it was a love story that was kindled by francis' father, he was a dear friend of grover and i think upon his death, i think grover felt the need make sure that frances was taken care of and he was a lot older by stretch of 25 to 30 years but i think, you know, at that time she trusted him. i think he was the guardian for many, many years. even prior to mr. fulsome's death and i think she had complete trust and they had a wonderful family, susan. >> they really did not like life inside the white house? >> that's correct. >> they rea

endure and she was married in the white house, in a beautiful gown, is headed by george cleveland, is the grandson of grover. this is printed and also marion cleveland, they found that actual dress that actually exist, the wedding dress that actually exists in white house collection and the first lady's collection. that is a powerful display of how wonderful and elegant she was and i think the people will certainly learn from history from that predict. >> there was an age difference between the two and how's the family take that in pretty. >> i think that was a love story that was killed by francis' father and he was a dear friend of grover and i think upon his death, i think it grover felt the need to make sure that francis was taken care of for the rest of her life and they love each other. he was definitely older, 25 - 30 years and i think that she trusted him and i think that he was the guardian for many many years and even prior to the death and i definitely think that she had complete trust and they loved each other and a wonderful family. >> they really did not like inside of the white house and want

. >> jimmy: yes, you love presidential memorabilia, but you have a bust of grover cleveland >> yes >>ites, but, yeah, okay. >> i had him in my apartment for 20 years and then i went for "cbs sunday morning" to do a story, and i interviewed the grandson of grover cleveland, george cleveland i showed him a picture of my bust of what i thought was grover cleveland and he said, "that's not my grandfather. [ light laughter ] and i felt like -- it felt like i was in one of those lifetime network movies like, this man that you thought was a 19th century president is not who you thought he was >> jimmy: yeah this is the bust you have in your house >> this is right for christmas, we put ornaments around him >> jimmy: of course, you decorate it for christmas. as everyone should >> he's gigantic and i went on -- and i thought, "if i only i could get on antiques roadshow.'" and they do the special episodes during the pandemic and they invited me on and i thought, this is exactly what i need them to help me figure out [ laughter ] and anyway, it's not worth a a lot. as in it's worth nothing it is

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it is grover cleveland.o practice law and ran again benjamin harrison and won in a landslide. you learn a lot on the show. leave time for microsoft, forgive me. i'm grinding my axe. microsoft at 322 all-time high. it actually hit a 324. tesla powering ahead some more, up 3%. musk is now worth about $300 million, more than all but 21 of the s&p 500 companies. how about that? neil. it's yours. neil: he is already sounding off on that, elon musk, the billionaires tax. he is not a fan of it. stuart: good. neil: rationale different from what you hear from others. stuart, thank you very much. footnote, stuart, on grover cleveland. he has the rap for being the heaviest, fattest president we ever had. william how hard taft gets rap. it is actually grover cleveland by second term, it was separate non-concurrent term was

footnote, stuart, on grover cleveland. he has the rap for being the heaviest, fattest president we ever had. william how hard taft gets rap. it is actually grover cleveland by second term, it was separate non-concurrent term was huge. no carb diet. stuart: i knew you would get in sooner or later. you would come up with a lovely little nugget. that is a good one. neil: fascinated me. he is counted as two presidents which is kind of interesting two. i'm done riveting your audience. thank you very much, stuart. we have a lot to follow up on here. not just weight of presidents former and otherwise. october 31st deadline is getting a lot of scrutiny. the self-imposed deadline congress has to get something together for the president what is now looking increasingly like a lean and mean one and three quarter trillion dollar plan. i say lean and mean. it started off a 3 1/2 trillion dollars. it is getting more into the range that some of the moderates want. part of the strategy is calling for different way of raising taxes targeti

all republicans and grover cleveland, a permanent democrat was sympathetic to wall street, appointeden of great distinction but men whose backgrounds included amassing wealth in corporate law. harlan was a great exception. it was a great exception because he came about because of the disputed presidential election. as we know, rutherford b hayes and samuel tilden were the candidates in that race. three southern states had such verlander disputes that they sent to teams of electors to washington and it was left to the national government to figure out how to sort these things out. they're are good arguments on both sides. what happened as we know is hayes got the nod for the presidency but there were a series of deals to try and appease the south where children had had greater support. -- tillman had a greater soup court. one of these deals was to add a southerner to the spring court. he committed to filling the opening with a seven justice but he has a judiciary committee that is run by northern radical republicans who are very supportive of the civil-rights. he had to find somebody

eisenhower, and the last time someone returned from losing was grover cleveland in 1892, but he did win 66%, and voters believe trumps have baseless claims about election fraud. nonetheless, presidential primaries are wild affairs and we should be careful about declaring anybody for inevitable. hillary clinton was a shoo-in, and she lost to barack obama. she also won against the largely unknown bernie sanders eight years later. >> where does that leave us? we believe in probabilities here at fivethirtyeight, and i don't think he is inevitable. >> nate silver, thanks very much. let's talk about this on our round table. sarah isgur, i'm pretty sure you're one of the 22% that doesn't want donald trump to run again, but do you think he will, and how do you explain the 78%? >> at this point, i think you have to think he is planning to run again. something would have to change for that to not be the case. i think that it is -- you look at the ohio senate race for instance. you have three candidates sort of at the top of that pack all vying to bear the mantle of trump now running $1 million wo

>> i'm talking about former president -- not harrison, not grover cleveland. >> talking about the living we don't solve the presidential election fraud of 2020, republicans will not be voting in '22 or '24. >> well, good. but, you're not going to solve it because there isn't any. look -- every day he says something bogus, you know that. so what difference does today's bogus thing make? either the election was stolen or it wasn't. and it wasn't. so, i mean, we know that. and you're seeing people, like, my god, chuck grassley embracing him in iowa, you know, if you won't risk your political future when you're 87, you're just not a profile on courage. i mean, it's amazing how these republicans have just -- and they know it. i talked to my former colleagues. they know this election wasn't stolen. and they just are basically saying, well, i won't get, you know, i won't get the nomination, you know, two-thirds of the republicans in my state believe it was stolen. >> what do you say to chuck grassley, he's across the border from you. >> chuck! you know, i -- i say, chuck, why are you doing this