grover cleveland when he was president. and cleveland really despised media and really begged for privacy in his personal affairs, from what he considered his personal affairs. so it is pretty clear to me that grover cleveland had a lot to do with the arguments made in this essay titled the right to privacy. he did not like media, he had an awful lot to hide, not only regarding his relationship with what had been his adopted daughter, but the fact that there were allegations that he had a child before being married to anyone. so there was a great deal of gossip swirling about him and his private life. so he begs for privacy and he had sam warren, his lawyer, who could write about the importance of the right to privacy and how it is important to all of us, including politicians. that point was made in the essay, the right to privacy. susan: you report that cleveland spoke at harvard and broke down in tears about the invasion of privacy and probably both the men witness that before writing the essay. this essay seems to be a r

so everyone was enthralled but if you remember also grover cleveland mama, where's my paw gone to the white house? hahaha. so by marrying frankie cleveland, he really had a redemption of his image and then when he came in for a second term, they had they be ruth the candy bars named after they now have a young child and they had just and the first child born in the white house was the cleveland's second daughter. so it was a rehabilitation of grover cleveland's image by marrying francis, and she even had to make some public statements. there were rumors that he was abusive and so she went on record publicly about what a great husband he was and on and on and so people saw change in him. and so there was a very different grover cleveland as a result. and women, you know betty ford vote for betty's husband because everybody loved betty ford, and we've seen more and more of that that the wives often have higher ratings than the husbands and i don't think of that as surrogate in the sense of a substitute. i think it's an addition. so sea mart seymour martin lipset had a who's a political

host: wasn't grover cleveland the father of baby ruth?let's hear from -- guest: that is -- his opponents go after these guys on those grants and they forget -- grover cleveland was the last gold democrat. anyway, william jennings bryan, we can go through that another time. host: we have time for one or two more calls. john is in florida. you are on with larry kudlow. john, you with us? let's try john in connecticut. caller: this is john from connecticut. i want to know if you think that john kennedy, senator from louisiana, would be a good presidential candidate in 2024. host: thank you, we are going to leave it there, we are running short on time. guest: john kennedy is a very smart man. i will leave it there. host: is he somebody you know? when you are in the white house, how often did you talk with senators? constantly? guest: tons. i had a lot of dealings with senator kennedy. i introduced him -- he spoke here at the state party fundraiser, he was on a tv show recently, he is a very smart guy. host: frank, florida. you are on the air.

there was an unbroken string for lincoln to grover cleveland but then when grover cleveland the first democrat became president he was a bourbon democrat what we call today wall street democrat and so you had something like 30 or 40 years were the only supreme court appointees tended to be pro- wall street conservative. how did harlan fit in there? he was chosen because of circumstances of the 1876 presidential election. we all have heard the story how he prevailed because of backroom deals. they were much more progressive and had to pick somebody that was accessible to those that believe african-american rights are important because we saw african-americans as a part of the voting constituency behind the republican party. so, in many ways he vouched for the credentials at the time when people were very skeptical and provided other points of connection between them. so it gets to the core and you have all these different reference points. he's a civil war veteran and the other justices are older. he also fought and saw death and destruction. he saw with the quality abroad in kentucky

and i like donald trump. >> was grover cleveland the father of little babies was ?>> guest: 'sopponents go after these guys and grover cleveland was last gold democrat. anyway, william jenningsbryan . >>. >> host: we got time for one or two more calls. john, you're on with larry kudlow. you with us? let's try john. >> caller: this is john from connecticut. i don't know where you think the senator from louisiana would be agood presidential candidate in 2024 . >> are going to leave it right there. >> guest: john kerry is a very smart man. >> host: when you were in the white house how often did you talk with the congressman, constantly? >> guest: constantly. i had a lot of dealings with senator kennedy . we spoke here at a state fundraiser. i mentioned on the show recently he's a smart guy. >> host: frank from florida, you're on the air. >> caller: how are you mister kudlow? peter, you have to have one question of mister kudlow. i somewhat agree with some of his positions but some i do not and one of them is i think the caller mentioned about the spending of the trump

one that comes to mind, the battles between grover cleveland and benjamin harrison in 1888 in 1892.arrison defeating cleveland's bid for reelection although cleveland won the popular vote. 1892 cleveland came back and he defeated harrison. neither cleveland nor harrison can be accused of being very charismatic. i'm sure i'm gonna get the wrong but some writer referred to the election they said, sort of like calm mustachioed grover cleveland going up against calm berated referred be hayes. the biggest issue in the election was tariffs, whether we should raise or lower tariffs. it did not inspire a lot of passion or parades or big celebrations or anything. there were a few elections like that. i think in general most elections illicit a lot of emotions. i think that is one of the things we forget. we are so focused on the present day or the past few elections in american history. a memory only goes back so far. sometimes we forget how fascinating some of the older elections really were. how much emotions really stirred in people. in the introduction to my book and i quote alexis de to

few campaigns that were less charismatic one that comes to mind are the the battles between grover cleveland and benjamin harrison in 1888 and 1892. you know harrison defeated cleveland's bid for reelection 88 although cleveland won the popular vote and then 1892 cleveland came back and he defeated harrison. neither cleveland nor harrison. i haven't can be accused of being very charismatic and i'm sure i'm going to get this quote wrong, but some writer referred to the election they said you know sort of like calm mustachio grover cleveland going up against calm bearded, you know, rutherford ba's and the biggest issue in the election was was tariffs whether we should, you know, raise or increase raise our lower terrorists. it did not inspire a lot of a lot of passion or a lot of parades or you know, great slogan or anything. so yeah, there are a few elections like that, but i think in general most elections elicit a lot of emotion and i think that's one of the things that we forget because we're so focused on the present day or the past few elections in american history, you know, i remember

bush and first lady barbara bush, louis picone, historian and board trustee for the grover cleveland birthplace memorial association and author of grant's tomb, the epic death of ulysses s grant and the making of an american pantheon, and nicola longford, executive director of the sixth floor museum at dealey plaza. and nicola, thank you so much for welcoming so many of our guests the other day to your wonderful museum. please welcome us and our panel as we continue the morning's program. [applause] >> well, yeah, thank you so much, stewart. as stewart mentioned, he and i have had the chance to work [noise] in the past, both at the red cross. stuart was just an absolutely remarkable head of the reagan centennial in 2011. he has saved me from one disaster after another, whether at the red cross or at the reagan library. wonderful to be with you all this morning. you know, i had a little trepidation when stewart told me that what he wanted me to discuss at his panel is death, destruction, tragedy, i thought, okay, this will be quite a challenge. but when i saw who our panelists were th

if you remember also, grover cleveland, mom where's my paw, gone to the white house. so by marrying frankie cleveland, he really had a redemption of his image. then when he came in for a second term, they had maybe ruth that the candy bar is named after. they now have a young child, the first child born in the white house was cleveland's second daughter. so, it was a rehabilitation of grover cleveland's image by marrying francis cleveland. there were rumors that he was abusive, so she went on record publicly about what a great husband he was an on and on. so people saw a change in him, so there was a very different rover cleveland as a result. women, betty ford, vote for betty's husband because everybody loved betty ford and we are seeing more and more of that that the wives often have higher ratings in the husbands. i don't think of that a surrogate in the sense of a substitute. i think it is in addition. seymour martin had a -- he was a political scientist. he was a charismatic figure. he was talking about george washington that way. dolly madison really pioneered th

grover cleveland. the law was signed june 28th, 1894.neil cavuto. neil: all that is very good to know. thank you for sharing that. ashley: yes. neil: following same thing we've got going on here, concern how strong do you want the economy. a lot of strong news. normally that would avoid a recession, the problem right now as connell mcshane can tell us good news is interpreted these days as bad news. i guess, connell, the fed will keep tightening and tightening. reporter: [inaudible]. good news is bad news as

you want grover cleveland fixing your plumbing. tr was very much a man of whatever struck him at the time. if the swamp that trump faced had struck teddy roosevelt, he would have fought back probably even harder than trump and gotten very bloody, and he might have been impeached and taken out, removed, right, because he would have fought in a much different way. reagan's style was such that he would have tried conciliation as much as possible with the south, but i think in the end he would have ended up doing the same thing. we're not going to back down on this points of american freedom. so, you know, you get into these historical questions, i feel like the time ring, you know, jumping back and forth with time, but that's my best shot on ahistorical questions. >> any other questions? right here? >> one of my concerns is that people are so clueless today, after church at the coffee hour, i talk to these people -- friends, very successful people, they don't want to talk about anything other than their golf game. >> uh-huh. >> we liv

so hean is out and it fall to te second of my presidents, grover cleveland. i love cleveland, i look at him as trump the first, first guy to win election, lose an election, win election. cleveland won the popular vote all three times. he comes in and takes on the spoiled swamp. he is in there, staying up late at night in the white house reviewing all of these claims for veterans benefits from people who were not veterans, throwing them out, vetoing them say no i'm not going to accept this kicks out thousands and thousands of these. and so he finally worked with congress to create something called a pendleton civil service act. this supposedly reform the spoils system that you know what happens in washington when they reform anything, it gets worse. and so they reform it and took about 10% of the total federal employees away from the president, put in the hands of a civil service commission where you would take a test andel however you placed in that test is what job you would be eligible to serve in. but the on scene ramification of this was now presidents ha

to think that a woman lived from the time of grover cleveland to martin luther king. and martin luther king would say the impact of her personality and it's unwavering dedication to high principle and purpose cannot be contained in a single day or era. her life was one of the bright interludes in the troubled history of mankind. and i think when you put these two people together, it's quite remarkable that even though they had their falling out which i didn't get into, you know, and they didn't stay romantically involved that they had a partnership because they had a commitment she had the passion he had the sense of how to be successful and confident and lead the country through a very difficult time and again it all started in albany. so thank you very much. any questions you don't i've got oh if you come to microphone, i'll have one if anyone else wants to come. of what kind of opposition did he face? i know in during his presidential years. he never carried duchess county. what was how was opposition to these programs which we know during the 1930s ultimately had

grover cleveland. the law was signed june 28th, 1894. and lauren simonetti again, a whiz at history. take it away, neil cavuto. neil: all that is very good to know. thank you for sharing that. ashley: yes. neil: following same thing we've got going on here, concern how strong do you want the economy. a lot of strong news. normally that would avoid a recession, the problem right now as connell mcshane can tell us good news is interpreted these days as bad news. i guess, connell, the fed will keep tightening and tightening. reporter: [inaudible]. good news is bad news as covering financial news as we know, neil. if you're jay powell and the federal open market committee you're looking at the economic data it makes exactly that case. the fed is trying to slow things down, bring inflation down. today we learned number one consume remembers more confident, more confident than we thought. there are more jobs open than we expected. if we look at that number, jolts number, job opening, labor turnover survey, well over 11 million jobs in july. th

the solution, if he is seeking it, is to be like grover cleveland, the former president who was defeated years later. served two terms as president. the only president ever to serve two nonconsecutive terms. what it means though is it is up to the american people. the fbi doesn't get to decide. the american people get to decide who our president should be. and that's the healthy part of our democracy. when i hear the democrats say our democracy is in peril. our democracy is alive, thriving, healthy voter turnout is huge. only thing in peril is whether the democrats lose an election. if they lose they say democracy is in peril. the solution to the trump issue, to all issues is let the american people vote. >> only thing i would add to that though is the democrats won in 2020. president biden won. and they are saying i think their argument is that democracy is in peril agree or disagree. >> i know let me finish my point if you would. they are saying you have a former president denying the election and you have a lot of his follower was denying the results of that election, which was a free

was interred, but still these modest funerals would still be in practice even into the 1900s grover cleveland's funeral from beginning from when the funeral first started at his home in princeton to when he was placed in the ground was barely one hour in princeton, new jersey. so extremely modest calvin coolidge's was probably the last of the modest funerals in 1932 were just several hundred guests attended this funeral in northampton, massachusetts. after that, we see where franklin roosevelt died in office in 1945 and there was this that major event, but it was unplanned because no one expected him to die. and that leads us into john f kennedy the next president to die and just very quickly after john f kennedy who also died on planned is when presidents started to do this pre-planning of funerals and and wondering binder that turned into three or that grew over time. so that's when we see the modern the modern-day state funeral that were so familiar with now really start to form after kennedy. really herbert hoovers was the first one that had that pre-planning that had gone into it. yeah, an

. >> wasn't grover cleveland the father of little baby ruth? [laughter] [laughter] after these guys was the last gold democrat. john is in lakeland, florida you are on with larry kudlow. john are you with this? what's triton jon. [inaudible] >> this is jon. i want to know if you think john kennedy the senator from louisiana that will be a good presidential candidate in 2024? >> thank you sir were going to leave it right there. we are running short on time. speak to john kennedy is a very smart man the current subversive very, very smart man i will leave it there for. >> is he somebody you know? when you were in the white house how often did you talk with senators or congressmen? tons tons of constantly. a lot of dealings with senator kennedy. he spoke here at the fundraiser as i might tv show recently a very smart guy. greg's frank from kirkland florida. frank you were on the air. x's in washington how are you mr. "kudlow"? peter you have a had a wonderful question to mr. "kudlow" i enjoy watching mr. "kudlow". have mentioned spending of the tr

you want grover cleveland fixing your plumbing. tr was very much a man of whatever struck him at the time and if the sport if the swamp well that's that trump faced had struck teddy roosevelt. he would have fought back probably even harder than trump and gotten very very bloody and he might have been impeached and taken out removed, right because he would have fought in a much different way. reagan style was such that he would have tried conciliation as much as possible with the south but i think in the end he would have ended up doing the same thing. we're not going to back down on these essential points of american freedom, so you know you get into these historical questions. i feel like thanos with the the time ring, you know jumping back and forth with time, but that's my best best shot on a historicism. we have more questions raise your hand and you can ask a question. we got one right here. one of my concerns is that people are so clueless today. after church at the coffee hour. i talked to these people friends very successfu

so he's out and the mantle falls to the second of my president's grover, cleveland. and i love cleveland. i look at him as as trump the first first guy to win an election lose an election win an election, right? but cleveland won the popular vote all three times and he comes in and he takes on the spoiled swamp. i mean hammer and tongue he is in there staying up late at night in the white house reviewing all these claims for veterans benefits from people who weren't veterans and throwing them out and vetoing them saying no, i'm not gonna accept this thing. we kick out thousands and thousands of these and so he finally worked with congress to create something called the pendleton civil service act. and this supposedly reformed the spoil system now, you know what happens in washington when they reform anything it gets worse. and so they reform it and they took about 10% of the total federal employees away from the president put it in the hands of a civil service commission where you would take a test and and however you place that test is what job you would be eligible

ashley: well done, the answer is francis cleveland, she was just 21 years old when she married grover cleveland who was 27 years older, they married at the white house in june 18, '86. take that away. i leave the markets down for neil cavuto. neil: cleveland was the only non-concurrent president we had. fascinating. that is my life there. thank you very much. great seeing get you again. on major selloff going, blame this on jerome powell at jackson hole annual conference and warning people about getting too cozy about the inflation situation. >> likely be some softening of labor conditions while higher interest rates, slower growth and soft labor market conditions bring down inflation and some pain to households businesses. these are the unfortunate costs of reducing inflation, failure to restore price stability. neil: it was a lot like this another remarks on ongoing pain from these ongoing rate hikes but not -- he might keep those rates where they are for a wild and we will get into the weeds on this, daniel booth, former dallas fed advisor and larry blaser, out to you first, you guys are ver

here is someone who can actually tell you what happened in the 4 years before grover cleveland's efforts divisive in the country? elaine: we had a civil war. it does not get more divisive. we are in a period of extraordinary divisiveness. it even has aspects of violence around it, which is frightening, but we have been through these periods before and survived, and hopefully we are not headed to a civil war. lisa: you have three different prongs right now dominating the headlines. you have on one hand gas prices going below four dollars and the inflationary environment cooling just a tad. you have the social issues with the abortion ruling and the latest bombshells around trump and the papers confiscated from mar-a-lago. what are you watching most closely or what could impact most significantly the midterm elections? elaine: the most important thing i am watching is the intensity of the people who are appalled by the supreme court abortion decision. we signed early indication of that in kansas where, on a referendum, there was presidential level turnout, and a 20 point victory for the p

on a path to his parties -- his party's nomination in four years.we have not had that since grover cleveland. it has been quite a while. we had this historical midterm trend that we pay attention to what we also recognize there are unique circumstances to this race this year, this contest that we are taking into account as we look at things individually and then look at them on a macro level as well. host: before we let you go, a snapshot of the governor's is what is interesting to watch. guest: the governors race, we have 36 of them on the ballot. the democrats are poised to flip at least a couple of seats. there are republican governors in massachusetts and maryland that are not running for reelection and democrats are well-positioned to win those states back as they are traditionally democratic states. beyond that, democrats are facing quite a few competitive races in states like kansas, wisconsin, and nevada that they flipped in the 2018 election. they also have some pickup opportunities in arizona, georgia, and they are trying to make races competitive in florida and texas as well. host

ashley: well done, the answer is francis cleveland, she was just 21 years old when she married grover clevelando. neil: cleveland was the only non-concurrent president we had. fascinating. that is my life there. thank you very much. great seeing get you again. on major selloff going, blame this on jerome powell at jackso