. >> talking about this is steve mcmillan, and grover nordqvist. >> yes, one of the thinks the bush administration was bring the dividends down from 35% to 15. to let that snap back up because of balm's higher taxes. it would be very helpful for the economy and devastating to holder retired people who count on dividends. >> do you think it will go that way, though? you have to believe they will agree to extend some of those tax cuts. it's not brain surgery giveen that dividend paying companies is any place anybody is getting any yield. >> this is all up to the presidential election. we all know obama's position. he could have made 15% permanent 2009, 2010, he never did. he wants that to snap up to the 45% range. romney made it clear he will keep it at 15. >> what's interesting here is you not only have a policy disagreement on the appropriate level of what taxation should be, but they want to bring it up to the ordinary level of income. as you note, the fiscal cliff occurs, and we fall off of it, we could have a fax policy that no one is far. that is the full tax hit on americans. >> how do you th