grover norquest comes from what era? is he married? does he have kids? >> grover is known sort of for his bachelorhood. he borrows a lot of lenon and marxist rhetoric to make his point. grover is interesting, because he's the son of an engineer, and he looks at politics systems. when he was fighting the clinton health care plan, for example, he viewed that -- he said clinton's health re plan was an attempt to put more democrats on the payroll, because government workers vote democratic and it is going to expand the government. that's how he views politics, like systems. he has a lot of that thinking himself. he went to harvard. he came down to washington, started with the national taxpayers union. he went back to harvard to finish his mba, really just to satisfy his father. he grew up in a very, very tiny suburb of boston. beautiful area, where, as i point out inhe book, it is the kind of relling legislation that grover hates, zing and everything, it actually is a very nice suburb. a lot of strict zoning. two-acre plots. >> did you go there? >> yeah, i we